I think Chandler is getting forced feed mins no matter how he plays because they want to trade him.
Same with Duhon, Jeffries, Curry. Possibly even Harrington but I could actually see MDA liking Harrington's game since he is probably our best go to scorer even though he is to selfish, takes many bad shots, and turns the ball over. But since he has one yr left they can accept it.

In December they will probably look to put together packages around Nate, Lee, Chandler, Jeffries, Curry, Duhon for expiring and to land a draft pick in the 2010 draft.

This is all just my opinion though as I don't believe for one bit that MDA really likes Duhon or Jeffries game like he makes it seem. They shoot at low percentages and don't do enough in the intangibles department to make up for it. For a guy like MDA it has to be driving him crazy. You can't compare his love for Barbosa or Bell and Diaw to him just giving Duhon and Jeffries mins regardless of play. Diaw put up 13-7-6 on like 50percent his first yr there and averaged like 10-5-5, playing SF,PF,C strong defense on all 3, and shooting 50percent. Jeffries is giving MDA 3-2-3 at SF,PF,C with above average defense on 41percent. Im not buying it.

I think there will be a shake up in December. Its so obvious that Douglas and Hill should be getting major burn while Duhon and Jeffries sit. That Chandler should come off the bench. That this is the only logical conclusion. There is no way that MDA believes that the game plan they have been using should eventually result in Ws. And the fact that no adjustments have been made is very telling as well.

IMO there will be a shakeup in December as soon as Lee and Nate are available.

the only hope we have is that Curry progresses well during the 1st half & impresses some GM's enough to warrant them making us an offer of an expiring contract for him... if he plays exceptionally well then maybe we can milk a draft pick out of the deal as well... Chandler is also still tradeable even w/his struggles because he shows enough on the court that lets u know he has the upside to get better than he is right now... Larry Hughes is also a good candidate to attract interest because he's producing on the court & he's got an expiring contract.

newyorknewyork wrote:I also believe that Donnie is waiting until Dec when Lee and Nate become available for trades to make any trades. I can't see them wanting to pay Lee or Nate the amount they are going to want. And I don't believe they have Lee or Nate in there plans for the future. Some of the same reasons why they drafted Hill and Douglas and had them rated high were because of the questions about Lee and Nate and how they contribute to winning and playing defense.

I think Chandler is getting forced feed mins no matter how he plays because they want to trade him.
Same with Duhon, Jeffries, Curry. Possibly even Harrington but I could actually see MDA liking Harrington's game since he is probably our best go to scorer even though he is to selfish, takes many bad shots, and turns the ball over. But since he has one yr left they can accept it.

In December they will probably look to put together packages around Nate, Lee, Chandler, Jeffries, Curry, Duhon for expiring and to land a draft pick in the 2010 draft.

This is all just my opinion though as I don't believe for one bit that MDA really likes Duhon or Jeffries game like he makes it seem. They shoot at low percentages and don't do enough in the intangibles department to make up for it. For a guy like MDA it has to be driving him crazy. You can't compare his love for Barbosa or Bell and Diaw to him just giving Duhon and Jeffries mins regardless of play. Diaw put up 13-7-6 on like 50percent his first yr there and averaged like 10-5-5, playing SF,PF,C strong defense on all 3, and shooting 50percent. Jeffries is giving MDA 3-2-3 at SF,PF,C with above average defense on 41percent. Im not buying it.

I think there will be a shake up in December. Its so obvious that Douglas and Hill should be getting major burn while Duhon and Jeffries sit. That Chandler should come off the bench. That this is the only logical conclusion. There is no way that MDA believes that the game plan they have been using should eventually result in Ws. And the fact that no adjustments have been made is very telling as well.

IMO there will be a shakeup in December as soon as Lee and Nate are available.

Couldn't agree more NY. It almost makes criticsim of MDA unfair and adds further insight into Walsh's comments re: being forced to play a certain way. Let's hope they can find takers for the entire starting lineup (except Gallo). I'd be interested in keeping harrington on the cheap for next year...

nyk4ever wrote:if chandler is being shopped then his valuing is plummeting, he's been garbage.

word.

who ever is shopping for him is really poor, or really dumb.

TMS wrote:Lee & Nate will have veto rights over any trade so Donnie's hands are completely handcuffed... the time to trade them was last year before the deadline like i said at the time... & the more MDA plays Duhon & Jeffries, the less other teams will want them... those guys are adding absolutely nothing & combined are making $12 million this year & another $7 mil plus 15% trade kicker next year for Fishlips... ain't no GM in their right mind gonna want to take them off our hands this year unless they're dumping some horrible contract back on us in the process.

the only hope we have is that Curry progresses well during the 1st half & impresses some GM's enough to warrant them making us an offer of an expiring contract for him... if he plays exceptionally well then maybe we can milk a draft pick out of the deal as well... Chandler is also still tradeable even w/his struggles because he shows enough on the court that lets u know he has the upside to get better than he is right now... Larry Hughes is also a good candidate to attract interest because he's producing on the court & he's got an expiring contract.

True. But at the same time I don't believe they would care that they are traded as long as its to a situation where they can start and get quality mins. Also Donnie and MDA hold a lot of power over them as they control Lee and Nate playing time which control Lee and Nate future earnings. They could easily reduce there mins in favor of Hill and Douglas.

I don't think they are going to trade Lee and Nate just for the sake of trading them either. I think they are going to push hard to package any combo of Lee, Nate, Chandler and Jeffries/Curry for some type of expiring and draft pick.

There could possibly be a team out there that is over the cap that could take on Jeffries contract if they were able to add Chandler and Lee/Nate to the mix. Washington, Miluakee, Sacramento and Minny though they aren't over the cap. Are the few teams I think we could pull it off with.

newyorknewyork wrote:

TMS wrote:Lee & Nate will have veto rights over any trade so Donnie's hands are completely handcuffed... the time to trade them was last year before the deadline like i said at the time... & the more MDA plays Duhon & Jeffries, the less other teams will want them... those guys are adding absolutely nothing & combined are making $12 million this year & another $7 mil plus 15% trade kicker next year for Fishlips... ain't no GM in their right mind gonna want to take them off our hands this year unless they're dumping some horrible contract back on us in the process.

the only hope we have is that Curry progresses well during the 1st half & impresses some GM's enough to warrant them making us an offer of an expiring contract for him... if he plays exceptionally well then maybe we can milk a draft pick out of the deal as well... Chandler is also still tradeable even w/his struggles because he shows enough on the court that lets u know he has the upside to get better than he is right now... Larry Hughes is also a good candidate to attract interest because he's producing on the court & he's got an expiring contract.

True. But at the same time I don't believe they would care that they are traded as long as its to a situation where they can start and get quality mins. Also Donnie and MDA hold a lot of power over them as they control Lee and Nate playing time which control Lee and Nate future earnings. They could easily reduce there mins in favor of Hill and Douglas.

I don't think they are going to trade Lee and Nate just for the sake of trading them either. I think they are going to push hard to package any combo of Lee, Nate, Chandler and Jeffries/Curry for some type of expiring and draft pick.

There could possibly be a team out there that is over the cap that could take on Jeffries contract if they were able to add Chandler and Lee/Nate to the mix. Washington, Miluakee, Sacramento and Minny though they aren't over the cap. Are the few teams I think we could pull it off with.

i think LEE will give up his bird rights to go to a winning team. not that im a big fan of his but why would he not wanna go somewhere else? in his view, this team jerked him around this past offseason and showed no commitment by offering him a 1yr deal the year after he was top of the league in double doubles? how can he realistically think he is in the clubs long term plans from this type of treatment? a good offer and LEE will BOUNCE

It is pretty evident how badly this team needs a quality PG and lining one up for the future is a smart move in my opinion, even with the possibility of future free agent PG's signing on in the years to come.