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11/19/2009  10:19 PM
Will frank get fired with a loss to the Knicks,interesting enough Eddie Jordan got fired last year after a loss against us despite no Butler, Arenas and Haywood.

That kinda makes us a laughing stock in a suttle way.

Funny thing is, he was put in a similar situation as Mike D, yet mike can go 2-80 and get the entire organazations support and Franks lame duck status has him on the hot seat.

I'm starting to think there tanking which would put them with a poss #1 pick and the second most $ in cap space.

They would assure themselves a hell'uve start to the next decade especially if the can snag labron and some solid role players. They have a good up incoming center, all star pg, and some other solid young pieces...

Should frank get fired ??

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11/19/2009  10:26 PM
If they have a system in mind for the 2010 and beyond Nets that is not the Princeton, then yeah, fire away. If they plan on running the same stuff, then what's the point?

Until you see Frank run with Harris and the rest of the team then its hard to judge. They could just hire Byron Scott again.

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11/19/2009  10:26 PM
Lawrence Frank is really not a very good coach, but I don't think the Rod Thorn/The Nets will replace him until they are ready to make some noise.

The Nets are always putting on a clinic of patience, good drafting, and smart moves as opposed to the Knicks' crappy drafting, knee-jerk transactions, and signing over-the-hill stars.

So I think Lawrence Frank will be gone -- probably at the end of this season and they will hire the real deal to coach the bomb squad they will create next season.

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11/19/2009  10:27 PM
One thing about firing coaches is that you really shouldn't do it if you know he doesn't have the horses to win the race. If it was a case of you never really being that strong in favor of a coach, then that's one thing, but if you feel you have your guy that can lead this team when you get the players he needs, then why fire him for losing with scrubs?

I always shake my head when a perennial losing teams fires the coach as if he's the only thing holding the team back. Sometimes it's just a political move to appease the masses.
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11/19/2009  10:31 PM
i thought the popular opinion was that Lawrence Frank & Rod Thorn were good & knowledgeable hoops guys? their team sucks even worse than ours does & yet most people around here argue that they have more talented players than we do... strange.
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11/19/2009  10:37 PM    LAST EDITED: 11/19/2009  10:37 PM
TMS wrote:i thought the popular opinion was that Lawrence Frank & Rod Thorn were good & knowledgeable hoops guys? their team sucks even worse than ours does & yet most people around here argue that they have more talented players than we do... strange.

Dude, the Nets are not worse than the Knicks, are you serious? They are completely decimated by injury, I think you know that. You know you would trade every single thing about them for the Knicks if you could.

The Nets are a bad team this season even if healthy, but they are doing exactly what the Knicks are claiming to be doing: Developing a strong young core, stockpiling assets, and clearing cap space, all simultaneously.

I think they even have their own pick so their sucking doesn't hurt the same way! Imagine if they draft another star or even just a solid player?

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11/19/2009  10:38 PM
I'm not sure a 3-18 record doesn't get you fired no matter what. Mostly every team in the league has enough to be competitive, and they have been in most of there games, but there is a bottom line and if it ain't tanking u gotta know heads will will roll.
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11/19/2009  10:43 PM
i would trade the fact that they have their draft pick, absolutely... but other than Devin Harris & Brooke Lopez, there's no one on their team i'm sweating.
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11/19/2009  11:14 PM
TMS wrote:i would trade the fact that they have their draft pick, absolutely... but other than Devin Harris & Brooke Lopez, there's no one on their team i'm sweating.

Well Harris and Lopez is 40% of a starting lineup. So that's a big deal. Having your own draft pick is a big deal. Douglas-Roberts, Williams, Yi, and Dooling are all solid. I think that's a big deal. They have as much or more cap room than the Knicks this summer so I think that is a big deal as well. They ahve their own pick and that is a big deal. I guess other than that the situations are pretty similar.

Sweating is not the point. Player for player I would trade their guys for the Knicks with maybe the exception of Robinson for Douglas Roberts (maybe not.) I would trade their outlook.

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11/19/2009  11:30 PM
Douglas-Roberts, Williams, Yi, and Dooling are all solid. I think that's a big deal.

Gallo, TD, Chandler, Lee & Nate constitute much more talent than those guys IMO... i would trade for their outlook too strictly because of the draft pick situation, but they're still the worst team in the NBA right now... u say they have superior talent, so ur saying all the blame for their pisspoor record goes to players being injured & none of it should be pinned on the coach or GM?

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11/19/2009  11:37 PM
TMS wrote:
Douglas-Roberts, Williams, Yi, and Dooling are all solid. I think that's a big deal.

Gallo, TD, Chandler, Lee & Nate constitute much more talent than those guys IMO... i would trade for their outlook too strictly because of the draft pick situation, but they're still the worst team in the NBA right now... u say they have superior talent, so ur saying all the blame for their pisspoor record goes to players being injured & none of it should be pinned on the coach or GM?

I guess you did not watch how they battled Boston, how they lost to Miami on 2 last second 3s? They have been in most of their games, they just don't have their go to guys to bring it home. Probably 80% of their winless record of it falls on injury. The Nets, if healthy are probably about a 30-35 win team.

Like I said, the Net management knew the Nets were going to be bad. They are in a developing year...for real. Not a faux developing year like the Knicks. Do you see the Nets rushing out to sign washed up stars?

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11/19/2009  11:47 PM    LAST EDITED: 11/19/2009  11:47 PM
The Nets woulda won more if they were 100%...Harris is a big time scorer. Yi was probably gonna be toying with some solid numbers this season like maybe 12/7 with a block....Courtney Lee is hurt too....CDR is actually emerging as a nice all around player and scorer in this league. Terance Williams is good too...so yeah they wouldn't be world beaters but if they were healthy they would have probably won more than the Knicks so far.

well besides all that...the players are playing hard. Guys are improving. No reason to fire Lawrence Frank....injury to their talent is their main problem right now.

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11/19/2009  11:55 PM
oohah wrote:
TMS wrote:
Douglas-Roberts, Williams, Yi, and Dooling are all solid. I think that's a big deal.

Gallo, TD, Chandler, Lee & Nate constitute much more talent than those guys IMO... i would trade for their outlook too strictly because of the draft pick situation, but they're still the worst team in the NBA right now... u say they have superior talent, so ur saying all the blame for their pisspoor record goes to players being injured & none of it should be pinned on the coach or GM?

I guess you did not watch how they battled Boston, how they lost to Miami on 2 last second 3s? They have been in most of their games, they just don't have their go to guys to bring it home. Probably 80% of their winless record of it falls on injury. The Nets, if healthy are probably about a 30-35 win team.

Like I said, the Net management knew the Nets were going to be bad. They are in a developing year...for real. Not a faux developing year like the Knicks. Do you see the Nets rushing out to sign washed up stars?

oohah

what possible need would they have for AI when they have Devin Harris already? are u kidding me here? we're looking for an upgrade over Chris Duhon dude... CHRIS DUHON! & Toney Douglas is not Devin Harris, not even close... if Jermaine O'Neal became available for a veteran's minimum type deal ur telling me the Nets wouldn't be in the least interested in signing him? please.

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