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EnySpree
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11/19/2009  5:16 PM
Numbers....just because a guy put up numbers doesn't mean he was playing good.

Last two games Chandler has been hitting the same terrible shots he's been taking. His body language has been terrible all year. Is this one of those guys that play like **** the first 2 months and awaken around the all-star break when the season is already decided???

Now he did pick up his intensity yesterday as pointed out by Kelly Tripuka during the game...but he still didn't actually play any better. He second guesses everything down to his dribbling. He's looking all over the place and he's dribbling and taking cautious long strides....its just painful to watch. I think this guy is just not a good basketball player. Put him on a dumb it down offense like in Miami or Clevland and he would play better....he is not good at making decisions or creating anything on the court.

Is he talented? yeah....but he's not gonna be Danny Granger and if you saw the game and compared the two players you can see that Wilson and Granger are on two totally different level's...talent having nothing to do with it.

I think he should be put on the next plane outta town with Duhon....get a player or players that fit

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11/19/2009  5:18 PM    LAST EDITED: 11/19/2009  5:19 PM
Exactly. It's not about numbers.

It's about playing like a dumb lazy sack of potatoes!

Yesterday he didn't pick up much intensity. His shots went in.

Besides, he played well for about 18 minutes, not for an entire game.

I don't know what happened to this guy but then again I don't know what happened to Sweetney, Frye, FWill, Butler, etc.... Probably the same thing. He was never all that good was just a new player that did different things so we got interested in his game. After time his flaws, which you initially ignored, now are glaring and outweigh what he does good.

And, if that's not it, then I don't know what is.

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11/19/2009  5:19 PM
I think he's out of position in this system. I really think he should be a PF in this offense. He should be taking mid range jumpers, getting post ups and backdoor plays and should be much closer to the basket. He's not a wing guy that should be taking five 3's a game
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EnySpree
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11/19/2009  5:30 PM
fishmike wrote:I think he's out of position in this system. I really think he should be a PF in this offense. He should be taking mid range jumpers, getting post ups and backdoor plays and should be much closer to the basket. He's not a wing guy that should be taking five 3's a game

But D'antoni declared him a pf and has been starting him at pf ever since. Wilson has been getting his opportunities mid-range. He's just punch drunk. He crosses the 3pt line gets the ball and shoots it with a hand in his face...if it was Danny Granger he would blow by his man and dunk it without hesitation cuz usually the defense hasn't even set when Chandler is taking his shots....it's like a kick to the nuts. I know my neighbors are wondering who I'm abusing over here cuz I'm screaming like a maniac at some of these guys.....they are just a bunch of dudes that are tall and in shape.....they don't know how to play. Chandler is the main one.

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11/19/2009  5:47 PM
Who said he is good? Isiah?
Chan is tipical Isiah draft product - talanted athletic moron.
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EnySpree
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11/19/2009  5:56 PM
arkrud wrote:Who said he is good? Isiah?
Chan is tipical Isiah draft product - talanted athletic moron.

Isiah drafted him...but Isiah is coaching college kids right now. Who cares who drafted who right now? Wilson is on the Knicks now...watching the Knicks today proves that Wilson is not a good fit for what they are trying to do.

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11/19/2009  6:01 PM
Uh... you guys love Gallo for two good games and look past the rest and Chandler gives you 50 good and 10 bad and he's a failed experiment?

I'd love to be a GM trading with you.

You trade Chandler to get rid of Curry or you don't trade him. Bottom line. He's the only two way player we have, that's why he doesn't fit.

Alan Hahn: Nate Robinson has been on a ridonkulous scoring tear lately (remember when he couldn't hit Jerome James with a Big Mac in early January?)
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11/19/2009  6:13 PM
JohnWallace44 wrote:Uh... you guys love Gallo for two good games and look past the rest and Chandler gives you 50 good and 10 bad and he's a failed experiment?

I'd love to be a GM trading with you.

You trade Chandler to get rid of Curry or you don't trade him. Bottom line. He's the only two way player we have, that's why he doesn't fit.

He's the only two way player we have.....true...

Duhon is the only point guard we have....also true...

Yeah so....time to trade Wilson and get another player in here.

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11/19/2009  6:16 PM
Yeah, Ariza was "delusional" too. That worked out well.
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11/19/2009  6:36 PM
EnySpree wrote:
He's the only two way player we have.....true...

Duhon is the only point guard we have....also true...

Yeah so....time to trade Wilson and get another player in here.

Next game just watch all the work that he does on defense. He's usually on the best perimeter player for the opposing team and he stays all over them.

You put him on a team that isn't total chaos and he'll fill up the box score without needing a lot of touches.

I would move him to get rid of Curry, but I'd move anyone to do that. Just to make a move, I don't know what you're thinking you're going to get back.

If the team is in flux, no young player will do very well. Look at Gallo.

Alan Hahn: Nate Robinson has been on a ridonkulous scoring tear lately (remember when he couldn't hit Jerome James with a Big Mac in early January?)
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11/19/2009  6:43 PM
JohnWallace44 wrote:Yeah, Ariza was "delusional" too. That worked out well.

Why you even bringing that up? That whole era was a giant seizure.

Wilson, Duhon, and whoever isn't the only basketball player in the world. Knicks gotta improve the team. Donnie is not making a dumb ass trade taking on salary for the sake of a big a name.

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11/19/2009  6:47 PM
What are you looking for in return?
Alan Hahn: Nate Robinson has been on a ridonkulous scoring tear lately (remember when he couldn't hit Jerome James with a Big Mac in early January?)
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11/19/2009  6:55 PM    LAST EDITED: 11/19/2009  6:56 PM
Chandler needs to be coached better. He can do a lot of things, and for whatever reason, he just keeps jacking up 3's. Why is he not getting benched when he does that? Why is Duhon not getting benched for refusing to drive when they dare him to take it to the basket?

Lots of bad players on this team, but they are all, or most of them, playing under even their potential. This team should win 30 games, not 15.

I would like to see some coaching out of the coach, I get it that they are bad, but like I already said, they are 30 win, not 15 win bad.

A glimmer of hope maybe?!?
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11/19/2009  7:08 PM
JohnWallace44 wrote:What are you looking for in return?

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11/19/2009  9:37 PM
simrud wrote:Chandler needs to be coached better. He can do a lot of things, and for whatever reason, he just keeps jacking up 3's. Why is he not getting benched when he does that? Why is Duhon not getting benched for refusing to drive when they dare him to take it to the basket?

Lots of bad players on this team, but they are all, or most of them, playing under even their potential. This team should win 30 games, not 15.

I would like to see some coaching out of the coach, I get it that they are bad, but like I already said, they are 30 win, not 15 win bad.

The coach needs all these guys to stretch their abilities and it makes for a chaotic team. Unless they're all on, the system goes tilt and so do a lot of the players offensively.

Chandler will go out and do exactly what you ask. I know one thing, he's not just jacking treys on his own, he's been given the green light.

Without good pg play, its also confusing as to what is a good shot and what is not. The whole team is taking treys with a defender much closer than they should be.

A healthy Nate, or a motivated AI could make a big difference in terms of the floor spacing. You could see Chandler fall right into place after that.

Alan Hahn: Nate Robinson has been on a ridonkulous scoring tear lately (remember when he couldn't hit Jerome James with a Big Mac in early January?)
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