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11/19/2009  4:41 PM
Kid looks impressive. He's a load and has plenty of handle. Only way he's a 2nd round pick is if he's got some serious background-check issues.

Anthony Mason-esque I dare say...

Alan Hahn: Nate Robinson has been on a ridonkulous scoring tear lately (remember when he couldn't hit Jerome James with a Big Mac in early January?)
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11/19/2009  5:00 PM
I was watching....the Cats look good though...they are playing some good defense. I love their pg. Lots of energy and kill out there from everyone.

As far as Stephenson....dude is huge. He's like a power fwd playing shooting guard or whatever he was playing today, lol. I'll be trying to catch them more often.

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11/19/2009  5:57 PM
Lance is to the SF position as Tyreke Evans is to the combo-guard

Beast of a player compared to his peers at that slot. He was just leaning into people and creating fouls for himself. Not looking forward to 'Cuse playing them.

Alan Hahn: Nate Robinson has been on a ridonkulous scoring tear lately (remember when he couldn't hit Jerome James with a Big Mac in early January?)
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11/19/2009  7:00 PM
Doc Rivers' kid just made a crazy reverse layup - trying to bring Indiana back against Terrico White's crew on ESPN
Alan Hahn: Nate Robinson has been on a ridonkulous scoring tear lately (remember when he couldn't hit Jerome James with a Big Mac in early January?)
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11/19/2009  7:14 PM    LAST EDITED: 11/19/2009  7:16 PM
Just saw a replay of the Cincy/Toledo game from last night. That team has a lot of talent. Stephenson is big for a wing. Funny how he blew that cheap dunk there in the first half when he was all by himself. I was lol! But he played well. Not too much he can't do..Cashmere and Vaughn is a good backcourt with a lot of quickness and firepower. Yancy Gates looks much improved and a lot thinner & leaner (dude reminds of Paul Millsap/Leon Powe/Carl Landry a little. He has an NBA future). And they still keep coming at you with guys like Larry Davis (superb looking 3 pt. stroke) and Rashad Bishop (a do-it-all SG/SF) off the bench. As of right now, if I had to bet on it, I'd say they're a tournament team and are really gonna make some noise this year..

'Cuse against California at the Garden right now...Good chance to see Cali's Randle/Christopher backcourt...

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11/19/2009  7:32 PM    LAST EDITED: 11/19/2009  8:18 PM
Cali really getting outplayed right now early on. The're having trouble with 'Cuse's size inside and are getting nothing in the pivot or going to the basket. If Jerome Randle doesn't get hot, this might be a blowout...Randle really looks small out there. They just said he's listed at 5'10" but he looks smaller. Dude can play though.
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11/19/2009  8:49 PM
Brooklyn basketball players suck.
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11/19/2009  9:53 PM
You can tell that Boeheim and D'Antoni have been comparing notes. MikeD's playing zone, and Boeheim has all 6'8" guys who can do anything on the floor. I'm a huge fan and didn't expect anything like that. Good luck playing against 'Cuse this year with that zone. Looks better than ever. 'Cuse has #4 recruiting class for next year too.

Wesley Johnson was rumored to be the best player in SU practices last year, now I might believe it. He was dominant and made Christopher look pedestrian. Great defense, shooting, passing, interior moves.

Evan turner is a very interesting player as well. 6'7" point forward in a Joe Johnson mold.

I liked what I saw from Randle too. He stood out to me last year when I was watching Pac10 games to get a look at Derozan/Holiday/Hill
Dude scored about half his team's points and never backed down even though 'Cuse was dominant. He could not be quicker getting by the first man, but with the zone that didn't do him much good tonight.

Alan Hahn: Nate Robinson has been on a ridonkulous scoring tear lately (remember when he couldn't hit Jerome James with a Big Mac in early January?)
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11/19/2009  10:41 PM
Can't we just lock the doors at the Garden and go to war with...

Wesley Johnson
Evan Turner
Ed Davis
Randle
Thompson
Christopher
Henson
Rautins

You have everything you need in that team. Pure point, combo guard, off guard, 3 pt specialist, wing, power forward, pivot...

They're all in the Garden tonight, just tell them they can't leave.

Finders keepers right?

Alan Hahn: Nate Robinson has been on a ridonkulous scoring tear lately (remember when he couldn't hit Jerome James with a Big Mac in early January?)
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11/20/2009  1:06 AM
JrZyHuStLa wrote:Brooklyn basketball players suck.

Micheal Jordan was born in Brooklyn

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11/20/2009  10:37 AM
EnySpree wrote:
JrZyHuStLa wrote:Brooklyn basketball players suck.

Micheal Jordan was born in Brooklyn

Yea but I'm talking about guys that grew up in Brooklyn and played ball there, and they suck.

Jordan moved out of Brooklyn when he was a toddler, he never played ball there.

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11/20/2009  6:08 PM
Randle is looking like the best player on the floor in this Cal Ohio State game too, although his team's getting smoked for the second night in a row...

He would be a very nice reserve point for our system. Thought that looking at him last year too. If you had Randle as the backup 1, Douglas as backup 2, assuming we get players like Johnson to play in front of him, that would start to look like a well built team.

Alan Hahn: Nate Robinson has been on a ridonkulous scoring tear lately (remember when he couldn't hit Jerome James with a Big Mac in early January?)
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11/20/2009  8:06 PM
Wow... move Wesley Johnson up the draft boards... this guy looks incredible.

Donnie doesn't need to search for prospects, they're all here at the Garden for this tourney. No more excuses!

Alan Hahn: Nate Robinson has been on a ridonkulous scoring tear lately (remember when he couldn't hit Jerome James with a Big Mac in early January?)
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11/20/2009  8:06 PM
Wow... move Wesley Johnson up the draft boards... this guy looks incredible.

Donnie doesn't need to search for prospects, they're all here at the Garden for this tourney. No more excuses!

Alan Hahn: Nate Robinson has been on a ridonkulous scoring tear lately (remember when he couldn't hit Jerome James with a Big Mac in early January?)
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11/21/2009  12:12 AM    LAST EDITED: 11/21/2009  12:14 AM
JrZyHuStLa wrote:Brooklyn basketball players suck.

Yeah, I hate those sucky Brooklyn players like Chris Mullin, Lenny Wilkens, Bernard King and Billy Cunningham. Mark Jackson was from Queens but played at Bishop Loughlin. Did Sam Perkins suck too?

I'm pretty sure we can find a lot of good players out of Brooklyn. So I guess you're just wrong.

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11/21/2009  10:33 AM
oohah wrote:
JrZyHuStLa wrote:Brooklyn basketball players suck.

Yeah, I hate those sucky Brooklyn players like Chris Mullin, Lenny Wilkens, Bernard King and Billy Cunningham. Mark Jackson was from Queens but played at Bishop Loughlin. Did Sam Perkins suck too?

I'm pretty sure we can find a lot of good players out of Brooklyn. So I guess you're just wrong.

oohah

You just named a bunch of average players, so I think I'll stick with my original opinion, thanks.

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11/21/2009  11:52 PM
JrZyHuStLa wrote:You just named a bunch of average players, so I think I'll stick with my original opinion, thanks.

5 time all-star Chris Mullin of the Dream team is average?
Hall of Famer and 9-time all star Lenny Wilkens is average?
Bernard King, 4-time all star, one of the biggest warriors in Knicks history who once led the league in scoring and had a career average of 22.5 is an average player?
Hall of Famer and 5-time all star Billy Cunningham is average?
Mark Jackson, second all time in assists is average?

When you're wrong you should just be quiet. In the meantime, enjoy your "original opinion". Thanks!

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11/24/2009  11:55 AM    LAST EDITED: 11/24/2009  2:36 PM
Cincy pretty much handled Vandy yesterday in the Maui Tournament. This Yancy Gates has been very impressive so far. Wouldn't surprise me at all if he turns out to be the best big man in the Big East by the end of the season...better than Greg Monroe, better than Onuaku/Jackson and maybe even better than Luke Harangody. Harangody puts up big numbers with his wide body & hustle inside but I'm not sure if his game translates well to the pros. Gody's kind of a throwback player, the kind of player you'd expect to see in the movie Hoosiers. While he's fundemetally sound & productive at the college level, he does have a certain awkwardness about his offensive game and appears to be saddled with some physical limitation that may hurt him at the next level. He could go either way in the pros -- either he finds his niche quickly & turns out to be a steady producer a-la David Lee or he doesn't make it at all (Harangody's not nearly the athlete David Lee is). This guy Gates is a different story however...While he may not be as dominant right now as Harangody, unlike Luke, I see all the makings of a really nice pro power forward. He's got a pro PF's body (at least 6'9", 250 lb. - he's definitely lost weight from last year - he looks a lot leaner, toned and quicker to me this year), he's a bulldog inside & pretty skilled down low, he's fairly agile and light on his feet for a man his size, and he has a real nice looking jumper out to the college 3 pt. line. Just real nice touch all over including at the FT line. He's also a very good rebounder and is willing to challenge shots around the rim. Paul Millsap, Leon Powe, Carl Landry, Joey Dorsey, Brandon Bass, Jason Maxiell, DeJuan Blair, Glen Davis...all these guys come to mind when I see Gates play. He might even wind up being better than most of these guys. Definitely bigger than most of them...Very bright future for this young man if he keeps working hard. It shouldn't be too long before we start hearing his name mentioned as a possible 1st round pick. He's right there in the same breath as Patrick Patterson and Trevor Booker imho..

I also like this Rashad Bishop a lot. I'm not sure if he's a pro, but he's a very skilled 6'6" swingman that contributes on both ends. Lefty can shoot it, handle it a little, play above the rim (he had a monster one-handed follow up slam yesterday that was awesome), and can play some defense. This guy along with Gates will play a major role in determining how successful this team will wind up being this year. Mick Cronin's got a lot of weapons on that Bearcat team. It's crazy how deep they are. Bishop only took 6 shots the whole game against the Commodores. He needs more touches..This guy has to be taking at least 10 shots/game if not more..

AJ Ogilvy was in some early foul trouble for Vandy but still managed to put some points on the board, esp. early on. You can tell he has some skill - inside moves, jumpshoot... Doesn't get up and down the floor well though. Probably not the type of big man MDA would like for the Knicks. He can play though..

Freshman John Jenkins looks like one hell of an outside shooter. Takes his time, mechanics look very sound. Great technique with the stroke. I saw a little bit of H2O in this guy.. Like Stephenson, looks to be one of the better freshman around..

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11/24/2009  8:50 PM    LAST EDITED: 11/24/2009  8:51 PM
More from the Maui Invitational -

Watching the Terps/Cats game right now. Second half, Cincy up 11. Bearcats doing their thing once again, getting contributions from everyone. Too bad Maryland's Greivis Vasquez just doesn't shoot a high enough percentage from the field because he does everything else well if not exceptional. Passing, court awareness, handling the ball, rebounding, leadership. I'm in love with this kid's game. With that size, he kinda reminds me of Francisco Garcia only this guy's more of a truer PG in the Mardy Collins bigger PG mold (this guy's even better than Collins imo). So poised and versatile..Can't be shooting in the 30% range though - it's been that way with this guy for awhile now and the beginning to this season has been no different. Really a mystery, he's way too good a player to shoot it that poorly (it's not even like it's a mechanical thing - shooting mechanics look pretty sound to me)...He's gotta find a way to get that shooting percentage up to at least the low 40% range. Even still, if we have an extra 2nd rounder to play with and this kid's there, I'd take him and figure out the rest later. Just too many positives with this kid to pass up if he's available late. Repetition in the gym with a guy like Allan Houston might do wonders for this guy...Cincy opened up a bigger lead now - up 16, 62-46..They win this tournament hands down. Easily the best team out in Hawaii right now.

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