The true character of the team will reveal itself. How true, sombody should have put Spree on his back and defended the uniform. Lon freaking Kruger was the only one whom shouted back. The true character of this team is complete Sissified in nature.

On the Flip side, Spree was only about Spree. He claims his love for fans, but his actions spoke different. He lost more respect and love last night.

Dolan is an ass, but he OKed bringing him to New York, signed off on his maxed out contract, and made him even richer. Spree never tried to meet him half way. It takes two, and spree did everything he could to bend rules. Seems most of the knicks, over many years never had much problems with the rules. Not Spree.

Shows how pathetic the team really has been the last few years when a piece of human garbage is the fan favorite. Thats not a kncok on the fans, but the roster offerred us nothing much except spree.

And lastly Spree did reveal his true self as a very good basketball player, but selfish and not a leader in any sense. He is 1-1 against his former team, and only unleashed his verbal fury when he had it going on. And further when the game was in hand. Very brave indeed.

Former knick greats, he sucked any hope of being remembered as any member of that elite group of men.

Fire Chaney right now, under no circumstances does that kind of disrespect be permitted in the MSG! I realize this is a shameful place right now, but Spree did not just yell at dolan and the current sissies, he yelled at the Uniform, and that means all the retired numbers, all the warriors that have not always delivered the goods, but gave it their best. Ewing, oak, starks, etc, were flawed for one reason or another, but the gave it their best! Bernard king gave it his best! But this sorry ass team showed a good effort in the score, but they not only lost the game, they lost any shred of pride and disgraced themselves.

This is the spree whom lies about his hand, shows up late, reports to camp late, disappears in the off season, and was never about New York. Knick players are in the community, help kids, donate money, play mean ball, and defend the City. Spree was about Spree, a great player on the court, but never a Knick, never a citizen of New York City in spirit!

There could have been many ways he could have showed up his former owner and proven his point. He was obscene and offensive. I don't want my kids seeing that crap, religous people don't want to see that, and even those whom might not be offended by such lewd actions, should be offended by a complete lack of respect for the very fans whom supported him. He forgot one thing, he was loved for being a Knick first, not for anything else.

Shame on all the knicks, shame on chaney, shame on Flip Sanders for not benching his ass, shame on Wolves teamates for not controlling him, and shame on him.

Chaney should be fired right now. This has gone so dam far, its not about X-O's anymore, its not about starting this player or not, this is about a team whom is now a bunch of freaking *****'s and I cannot even stand to look at them. They make me sick!

Dolan was right, the true character of the team has revealed itself!

Dolan is a Hypocrite! The management looked the other way with spree's tardiness when the knicks were winning but when they lost they started telling spree to clean his act up! Class didn't take precedence over payback. Spree wanted to show Dolan and thats all he wanted to do. Spree disrespected the garden and our knick faggots didn't even defend our pride?

Why are we getting on spree for letting his mouth go? Who cares, he is playing for minnesota now! I want to know why Houston, KVH, Eisley and all the other fags didn't get back in spree's face. DOn't tell me about class when your pride is on the line. You say someone about me I am not walking away saying u have no class. LJ swung back at ZO, Charlie tried to tackle PJ! Its the knicks players and coaches fault for letting this happen. Don't forget their failure to react!

Neydal is right.

[Edited by - Silverfuel on 12/24/2003 09:39:26]

My tendency is to give the Knicks a bit of a break. They played with the guy for years and I think they like him. The fans are all backing him. So you asking someone to take some one down when he has 15,000 of "Your Fans" backing him and he's someone you like.

If you're going to get on the players for not taking him on - why not the fans?

They started booing him. and I think had the team fought back, they would have supported him.

Spree kept the PR how its was not about the fans, but grabbing your balls and yelling as he did became a show of disrespect.

He did the same thing in Golden State, had a bone with management and got into it with a few fans, then escalated from there.

This is just my take on what happend and how I feel about it.

Your right about the team liking him and not wanting to mix it with him. They are a bunch of real swell fellas and just gosh darn nice!

And that is why the the coach must go, they allowed themselves to get walked over.

One more comment on the game itself. The big play in my mind wasn't sprees three - it was KG offensive board. The Knick dominated the boards all night - but didn't get the one they needed.

Hate Spree all you want, but what's done is done. Spree and Dolan had an issue and it's been addressed.

Nedyal, give it a rest. Who the hell on this Knick team is gonna step up to Spree? This team was compiled by ya boy LayDown to be timid and passive. That's exactly how they acted last night. No surprise at all. All Lon Krueger said was "Play ball, Spree". He didn't really check Spree's mouth at all, but at least he tried to diffuse the situation.

Spree loved the fans' sentiment towards him while he was here and last night too. Anyone who likes Spree's game and demeanor didn't come away from last night's game with any love lost. All the selfish talk regarding him is a crock. He sacrificed a hell of alot while on this team. Dolan wanted him here at one time but after realizing Spree didn't fit the punk mold that he and LayDown envisioned for the Knicks, he had Spree traded.

If Spree is so much "human garbage" and was one of the best players on the team as well as being better than ANYONE on the Knicks last night, need you ask why he was so popular? LMMFAO

He is no leader? He was vocal about what needed to be done to improve the team the whole time he was a Knick. He was the most outspoken player on the team. It's funny how Spree haters give Dyess props for being just as outspoken as Spree and at the same time hate Spree for it. Hypocritical as all hell, but funny nonetheless.

Then there's the petty matter of when Spree actually started the tirade. NO it wasn't when the game was almost over as some Spree haters would have one believe. I was at the game and saw what MSG network didn't show. It started when he first scored. The refs talked to him at halftime about him doing it in the first half. Dolan was running his mouth at Spree too, but he just ended up the one who looked dissed at the end of the night. By the way, it's not even about how brave Spree is, that isn't even a rational question. What should be questioned is how brave the Knicks are.

I don't think Spree is worrying about how people remember him, because those that like Spree will remember him for the same reason- that he always spoke up and never backed down. He had more of a NY state of mind (and the attitiude to go with it) than anyone on the team- players and management included.

If Spree's tirade was so offensive, what about any time someone curses on the court? Come the hell on with that tender-eared bulls**t and deal with it. You can hear the curses all the time when the game is on TV, so anyone who wants to cover their kids ears at the games or otherwise can't handle it shouldn't watch ANY NBA games at all. Plus, anyone that sensitive or soft can't cut it as a Knicks fan anyway. Take that Morality Police rhetoric the hell on to Utah and let the Mormons embrace it.

If we are gonna talk about what's offensive? Really? 10-19 is the record for the New York Knickerbockers. THAT'S friggin offensive. That's just the tip of the iceberg. At least LayDown's OUT. That was an improvement.


[Edited by - HARDCOREKNICKSFAN on 12/24/2003 13:06:32]

To MEWELL, what goes around comes around.