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fishmike
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11/17/2009  11:36 AM
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11/17/2009  11:40 AM    LAST EDITED: 11/17/2009  11:44 AM
No surprise. Hughes, Gallo, Chandler, Douglas, in that order (ignorning Landry and Hill because they didn't have any significant minutes).

And THERE is your core, yes, Hughes is a part of our core. I say we resign him and keep playing him. He's the ONLY level-headed veteran we have, and he took his role demotions, promotions, in stride (something that steph, francis, and iverson could learn from)

There's your core.

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11/17/2009  12:06 PM
			Production		On Court/Off Court	Simple
Player Min Own Opp Net On Off Net Rating
---------------------- ---------------------- ---------------------- ------
 Landry 4% 13.9 11.8 2.1 48.2 -12.1 60.3 25.4
 Hill 7% 29.5 14.8 14.7 9.5 -10.9 20.4 17
 Hughes 55% 17 10.2 6.8 -2.1 -18.2 16.1 10.5
 Gallinari 62% 18.9 18.9 0 -4.4 -17.8 13.4 5.4
 Chandler 69% 9.8 14.5 -4.7 -5.9 -17 11 1.6
 Douglas 29% 16.6 13.8 2.8 -14.2 -7.4 -6.8 -1
 Harrington 63% 17.5 17.1 0.4 -13.4 -2.6 -10.8 -4.1
 Lee 67% 20.5 23.4 -2.9 -15.6 3.3 -18.8 -9.3
 Duhon 68% 7.2 20.5 -13.2 -11.6 -4.6 -7 -10.7
 Robinson 20% 4.2 18.6 -14.4 -13.9 -8.3 -5.6 -10.9
 Jeffries 40% 6.6 20.3 -13.7 -13.8 -6.5 -7.4 -11.1
 Milicic 14% 12.4 25.6 -13.2 -17.7 -8 -9.6 -11.8
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fishmike
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11/17/2009  12:20 PM
martin wrote:
			Production		On Court/Off Court	Simple
Player Min Own Opp Net On Off Net Rating
---------------------- ---------------------- ---------------------- ------
 Landry 4% 13.9 11.8 2.1 48.2 -12.1 60.3 25.4
 Hill 7% 29.5 14.8 14.7 9.5 -10.9 20.4 17
 Hughes 55% 17 10.2 6.8 -2.1 -18.2 16.1 10.5
 Gallinari 62% 18.9 18.9 0 -4.4 -17.8 13.4 5.4
 Chandler 69% 9.8 14.5 -4.7 -5.9 -17 11 1.6
 Douglas 29% 16.6 13.8 2.8 -14.2 -7.4 -6.8 -1
 Harrington 63% 17.5 17.1 0.4 -13.4 -2.6 -10.8 -4.1
 Lee 67% 20.5 23.4 -2.9 -15.6 3.3 -18.8 -9.3
 Duhon 68% 7.2 20.5 -13.2 -11.6 -4.6 -7 -10.7
 Robinson 20% 4.2 18.6 -14.4 -13.9 -8.3 -5.6 -10.9
 Jeffries 40% 6.6 20.3 -13.7 -13.8 -6.5 -7.4 -11.1
 Milicic 14% 12.4 25.6 -13.2 -17.7 -8 -9.6 -11.8
play the top six guys. Add the new skinny Curry and Iverson to the mix we win what we win. If we can get a trade exception, draft pick and or expiring contracts back I would move Al, Lee, Duhon, JJ(duh) and Darko for any combo of. Nate can stay for the year
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Marv
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11/17/2009  12:25 PM
i think everyone should play on this team. spread the minutes out and let everyone get some clock. you can adjust that as guys do well or p[ay poorly, but i don’t see the value in sitting al, lee, nate, even duhon and darko. if anything increase the defensive intensity to the point where guys need blows more often.
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11/17/2009  12:28 PM
Marv wrote:i think everyone should play on this team. spread the minutes out and let everyone get some clock. you can adjust that as guys do well or p[ay poorly, but i don’t see the value in sitting al, lee, nate, even duhon and darko. if anything increase the defensive intensity to the point where guys need blows more often.

The value is (1) you make them earn their minutes and (2) you develop the guys that will be here. Those guys need their minutes if they want to get paid and at this point, I'm not even sure they care about getting paid.

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11/17/2009  12:32 PM
SupremeCommander wrote:
Marv wrote:i think everyone should play on this team. spread the minutes out and let everyone get some clock. you can adjust that as guys do well or p[ay poorly, but i don’t see the value in sitting al, lee, nate, even duhon and darko. if anything increase the defensive intensity to the point where guys need blows more often.

The value is (1) you make them earn their minutes and (2) you develop the guys that will be here. Those guys need their minutes if they want to get paid and at this point, I'm not even sure they care about getting paid.

what has the libyan press been saying this year about the knicks?

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11/17/2009  12:57 PM
Marv wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:
Marv wrote:i think everyone should play on this team. spread the minutes out and let everyone get some clock. you can adjust that as guys do well or p[ay poorly, but i don’t see the value in sitting al, lee, nate, even duhon and darko. if anything increase the defensive intensity to the point where guys need blows more often.

The value is (1) you make them earn their minutes and (2) you develop the guys that will be here. Those guys need their minutes if they want to get paid and at this point, I'm not even sure they care about getting paid.

what has the libyan press been saying this year about the knicks?

Not surprisingly, not a damn thing... though I think I'll be able to get hooked up to NBA TV. The Harlem Globetrotters were in town a few weeks ago. Sucked missing the Yankees too but my dad sent over DVDs he converted from Tivo... just finished the ALCS and starting the World Series.

So I may have a lagged opinion but I will have informed, asinine opinions to ram down everyone's throat--worry not

DLeethal wrote: Lol Rick needs a safe space
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11/17/2009  1:01 PM
SupremeCommander wrote:
Marv wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:
Marv wrote:i think everyone should play on this team. spread the minutes out and let everyone get some clock. you can adjust that as guys do well or p[ay poorly, but i don’t see the value in sitting al, lee, nate, even duhon and darko. if anything increase the defensive intensity to the point where guys need blows more often.

The value is (1) you make them earn their minutes and (2) you develop the guys that will be here. Those guys need their minutes if they want to get paid and at this point, I'm not even sure they care about getting paid.

what has the libyan press been saying this year about the knicks?

Not surprisingly, not a damn thing... though I think I'll be able to get hooked up to NBA TV. The Harlem Globetrotters were in town a few weeks ago. Sucked missing the Yankees too but my dad sent over DVDs he converted from Tivo... just finished the ALCS and starting the World Series.

So I may have a lagged opinion but I will have informed, asinine opinions to ram down everyone's throat--worry not

what!?!?!? are you out in the street protesting?

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11/17/2009  1:10 PM
Marv wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:
Marv wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:
Marv wrote:i think everyone should play on this team. spread the minutes out and let everyone get some clock. you can adjust that as guys do well or p[ay poorly, but i don’t see the value in sitting al, lee, nate, even duhon and darko. if anything increase the defensive intensity to the point where guys need blows more often.

The value is (1) you make them earn their minutes and (2) you develop the guys that will be here. Those guys need their minutes if they want to get paid and at this point, I'm not even sure they care about getting paid.

what has the libyan press been saying this year about the knicks?

Not surprisingly, not a damn thing... though I think I'll be able to get hooked up to NBA TV. The Harlem Globetrotters were in town a few weeks ago. Sucked missing the Yankees too but my dad sent over DVDs he converted from Tivo... just finished the ALCS and starting the World Series.

So I may have a lagged opinion but I will have informed, asinine opinions to ram down everyone's throat--worry not

what!?!?!? are you out in the street protesting?

The Leader don't tolerate no protesters. After he spoke at the UN, the Canadians had a dinner, but didn't invite him. He changes policy the next day and Canadians are not allowed reentry. Every Canadian coworker either left or is planning their exit because once the visa expires they gotta go

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11/17/2009  1:14 PM
SupremeCommander wrote:
Marv wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:
Marv wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:
Marv wrote:i think everyone should play on this team. spread the minutes out and let everyone get some clock. you can adjust that as guys do well or p[ay poorly, but i don’t see the value in sitting al, lee, nate, even duhon and darko. if anything increase the defensive intensity to the point where guys need blows more often.

The value is (1) you make them earn their minutes and (2) you develop the guys that will be here. Those guys need their minutes if they want to get paid and at this point, I'm not even sure they care about getting paid.

what has the libyan press been saying this year about the knicks?

Not surprisingly, not a damn thing... though I think I'll be able to get hooked up to NBA TV. The Harlem Globetrotters were in town a few weeks ago. Sucked missing the Yankees too but my dad sent over DVDs he converted from Tivo... just finished the ALCS and starting the World Series.

So I may have a lagged opinion but I will have informed, asinine opinions to ram down everyone's throat--worry not

what!?!?!? are you out in the street protesting?

The Leader don't tolerate no protesters. After he spoke at the UN, the Canadians had a dinner, but didn't invite him. He changes policy the next day and Canadians are not allowed reentry. Every Canadian coworker either left or is planning their exit because once the visa expires they gotta go

oops. guess you gotta watch out for your keystrokes too huh?

btw i know you're a huge boxing fan. you catch anything on the pacquiao fight?

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11/17/2009  1:27 PM
Marv wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:
Marv wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:
Marv wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:
Marv wrote:i think everyone should play on this team. spread the minutes out and let everyone get some clock. you can adjust that as guys do well or p[ay poorly, but i don’t see the value in sitting al, lee, nate, even duhon and darko. if anything increase the defensive intensity to the point where guys need blows more often.

The value is (1) you make them earn their minutes and (2) you develop the guys that will be here. Those guys need their minutes if they want to get paid and at this point, I'm not even sure they care about getting paid.

what has the libyan press been saying this year about the knicks?

Not surprisingly, not a damn thing... though I think I'll be able to get hooked up to NBA TV. The Harlem Globetrotters were in town a few weeks ago. Sucked missing the Yankees too but my dad sent over DVDs he converted from Tivo... just finished the ALCS and starting the World Series.

So I may have a lagged opinion but I will have informed, asinine opinions to ram down everyone's throat--worry not

what!?!?!? are you out in the street protesting?

The Leader don't tolerate no protesters. After he spoke at the UN, the Canadians had a dinner, but didn't invite him. He changes policy the next day and Canadians are not allowed reentry. Every Canadian coworker either left or is planning their exit because once the visa expires they gotta go

oops. guess you gotta watch out for your keystrokes too huh?

btw i know you're a huge boxing fan. you catch anything on the pacquiao fight?

Yeah... there's a server that's rotated where I live and I don't know where it goes

I get a European style sports package and it airs fights. I haven't seen Pacquiao/Cotto yet, in large part because it aired here Sunday morning when my work week starts, but it will re-air. AND I CANNOT WAIT!! I heard Cotto was running away in the last rounds... could not be happier. I really, really, really hope this nails down a Mayweather/Pacquiao fight because I think Mayweather gets rocked. And I want that to happen so bad because of all the coin I dropped on boring ass Mayweather fights. Great boxer in the sporting sense of the word, but I'm always going to appreciate fighters more.

Did you watch? And if so, did Pac dominate like I heard he did?

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11/17/2009  1:33 PM
SupremeCommander wrote:
Marv wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:
Marv wrote:i think everyone should play on this team. spread the minutes out and let everyone get some clock. you can adjust that as guys do well or p[ay poorly, but i don’t see the value in sitting al, lee, nate, even duhon and darko. if anything increase the defensive intensity to the point where guys need blows more often.

The value is (1) you make them earn their minutes and (2) you develop the guys that will be here. Those guys need their minutes if they want to get paid and at this point, I'm not even sure they care about getting paid.

what has the libyan press been saying this year about the knicks?

Not surprisingly, not a damn thing... though I think I'll be able to get hooked up to NBA TV. The Harlem Globetrotters were in town a few weeks ago. Sucked missing the Yankees too but my dad sent over DVDs he converted from Tivo... just finished the ALCS and starting the World Series.
So I may have a lagged opinion but I will have informed, asinine opinions to ram down everyone's throat--worry not

no worries dude, we wont tell you who won...

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11/17/2009  1:37 PM
jimimou wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:
Marv wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:
Marv wrote:i think everyone should play on this team. spread the minutes out and let everyone get some clock. you can adjust that as guys do well or p[ay poorly, but i don’t see the value in sitting al, lee, nate, even duhon and darko. if anything increase the defensive intensity to the point where guys need blows more often.

The value is (1) you make them earn their minutes and (2) you develop the guys that will be here. Those guys need their minutes if they want to get paid and at this point, I'm not even sure they care about getting paid.

what has the libyan press been saying this year about the knicks?

Not surprisingly, not a damn thing... though I think I'll be able to get hooked up to NBA TV. The Harlem Globetrotters were in town a few weeks ago. Sucked missing the Yankees too but my dad sent over DVDs he converted from Tivo... just finished the ALCS and starting the World Series.
So I may have a lagged opinion but I will have informed, asinine opinions to ram down everyone's throat--worry not

no worries dude, we wont tell you who won...

Don't give these vultures any ideas dude...

In all seriousness it was too hard to stay away from the results--I know the Yanks won in 6, I know Matsui was the MVP, but I tried real hard to avoid the details. I'll be surprised about the journey despite knowing the destination

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11/17/2009  1:39 PM
SupremeCommander wrote:
jimimou wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:
Marv wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:
Marv wrote:i think everyone should play on this team. spread the minutes out and let everyone get some clock. you can adjust that as guys do well or p[ay poorly, but i don’t see the value in sitting al, lee, nate, even duhon and darko. if anything increase the defensive intensity to the point where guys need blows more often.

The value is (1) you make them earn their minutes and (2) you develop the guys that will be here. Those guys need their minutes if they want to get paid and at this point, I'm not even sure they care about getting paid.

what has the libyan press been saying this year about the knicks?

Not surprisingly, not a damn thing... though I think I'll be able to get hooked up to NBA TV. The Harlem Globetrotters were in town a few weeks ago. Sucked missing the Yankees too but my dad sent over DVDs he converted from Tivo... just finished the ALCS and starting the World Series.
So I may have a lagged opinion but I will have informed, asinine opinions to ram down everyone's throat--worry not

no worries dude, we wont tell you who won...

Don't give these vultures any ideas dude...

In all seriousness it was too hard to stay away from the results--I know the Yanks won in 6, I know Matsui was the MVP, but I tried real hard to avoid the details. I'll be surprised about the journey despite knowing the destination

it was a great series bro. enjoy the games.

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11/17/2009  1:40 PM
Marv you might appreciate this photo... my favorite sporting event personal picture

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11/17/2009  1:44 PM
jimimou wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:
jimimou wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:
Marv wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:
Marv wrote:i think everyone should play on this team. spread the minutes out and let everyone get some clock. you can adjust that as guys do well or p[ay poorly, but i don’t see the value in sitting al, lee, nate, even duhon and darko. if anything increase the defensive intensity to the point where guys need blows more often.

The value is (1) you make them earn their minutes and (2) you develop the guys that will be here. Those guys need their minutes if they want to get paid and at this point, I'm not even sure they care about getting paid.

what has the libyan press been saying this year about the knicks?

Not surprisingly, not a damn thing... though I think I'll be able to get hooked up to NBA TV. The Harlem Globetrotters were in town a few weeks ago. Sucked missing the Yankees too but my dad sent over DVDs he converted from Tivo... just finished the ALCS and starting the World Series.
So I may have a lagged opinion but I will have informed, asinine opinions to ram down everyone's throat--worry not

no worries dude, we wont tell you who won...

Don't give these vultures any ideas dude...

In all seriousness it was too hard to stay away from the results--I know the Yanks won in 6, I know Matsui was the MVP, but I tried real hard to avoid the details. I'll be surprised about the journey despite knowing the destination

it was a great series bro. enjoy the games.

thanks, and it sounded like a good one. I will be disappointed if I don't hear "WHO'S YOUR DADDY"

will offer input on the OT forum after I finish but until I do I am avoiding that thread like the plague

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11/17/2009  1:55 PM
crzy - how bout my man ilyasova - that kid has steel balls out there right?

i was watching the bucks game last night and it struck me funny how they are LESS talented than the knicks on paper, yet they somehow are 5-3 and 2nd to cleveland in the central...all wthout redd. whats the difference btwn them and the knicks then? why cant the knicks be 5-3 if they have better talent than milwaukee???? oh, i know, effort. the kids in milwaukee are playing bball, only 2 players over $10M - bogut and redd. we have larry at 13.5M, eddy at 10.5m and al at 10m - thats $31M in wasted salary (and have the salary of the entire bucks team....seems like the nba funny logos that were posted a few weeks back showing the bucks as deer in headlights needs to be updated.

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11/17/2009  2:33 PM
Bogut is playing like a #1 pick and Jennings has been awesome. Role players are doing a good job also.
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here are you +/- #s for the year... I know you all have been dying for them

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