So True

no class

off course he doesn't he is the team spokes person. I have no problem with Spree letting Dolan have it. He made way too big a deal of Spree's absenses. He could've handled it differently

now please dont make this out to be that i think Sprewelll is better than Houston. I don't..i've always had and will have more confidense in Allan.

Posted by CanadianKnicksFan:

Allan has been the better player for about 3 years now

If you ignore rebounding passing and entire defensive side of the game, then yes Houston is better.

Posted by zioncat:

Posted by CanadianKnicksFan:

Allan has been the better player for about 3 years now

If you ignore rebounding passing and entire defensive side of the game, then yes Houston is better.

5 posts in and zioncat proves that he/she is wiser than anyone here, including 1200 post Playa who still doesn't have a clue.

[Edited by - masterjedidarkcaster on 12/24/2003 01:54:16]

Posted by CanadianKnicksFan:

So True
no class

Lets get one thing straight, thats wasn't a display of no class, it was a display of feelings from spree. And I would rather have someone that plays with that kind of zest that someone that ignores being wronged. I had no problem with him going off on the Knicks. The knicks should either get back in his face hardcore or shut him down on the court. They couldn't do either and SPree himself stuck the dagger in at end.

He might have no lcass but he has a winning record. Are you going to tell me that he worse than Rasheed? NO! He is just manifesting his anger towards the management. If spree was talking trash and we had Oak or LJ, spree would be on his abck right now. The knicks might have shown restraint but they showed no ferver. THE KNICKS LOST! How can you make that into a, Spree showed not class? He beat us. He was open when he hit that shot! How could that happen? I want intense players who want an eye for an eye! This is a New York team. Don't tell me about no class.

Clyde was different but was Ewing classy? What about Oak? Yes they were but they were also competetive! These guys were all fierce that loved competition and they wouldn't let spree go off with his mouth and his jumpshot! We lost the game!

Dont get me wrong, I'm not saying SPREE IS THE MAN or anything like that. Spree is a dickhead! HE should be buried by a legion of knick players. How can you say spree is the man when he came into the Garden and started talking trash about everyone? He might have bitched the knick players but he also like Nedyal said, insulted the knicks uniform and the logo! Fuk that *******. I have no feelings for him anymore.

But what pisses me off the most was that the Knick players did nothing about it! What the **** is going on with our team? this is Berman's comment in his article: http://www.nypost.com/sports/knicks/4738.htm
"Meanwhile, these soft, timid Knicks let Sprewell embarrass their owner, as Sprewell spewed trash all over the Garden. Just like in Golden State last month, when Keith Van Horn got pushed around by Cliff Robinson and the Knicks recoiled."

Why does the knick management put up with this? Don't they want another player that will stick up for if not the uniform, for them indirectly? I'm not saying spree is the man and all that, i'm saying, stop talking about spree. we are letting the knick players get away with doing nothing about it. He doesn't care if we think he showed no class. All he cares about was shoving in our face and he did without anyone getting in his way. SOFT AND TIMID IS RIGHT! These knicks are not the Knick team I fell in love with!

Spree was brought in after Oak was traded. he had the worst reputation. They are gone because the management was thinking of a youth movement. I hate Dolan but no enough to root against the knicks and I definately dont like spree enough to think the knicks got what they deserved.

That just me though. I'm not telling anyone what they should think and do.

Dolan does not want those types here because his insecure ass feels threatened by anyone mentally stronger than him. That, in a nutshell, is why the team is as soft as it is now.

Kind of sounds like your reaction to when somebody does not agree with you.

Those are leader qualities. We have NO ONE with those characteristics on this team. Anyone making a futile attempt to dispute that fact obviously don't watch the games.

Oow, you sound like a Wrestling character! Deep husky voice daring anyone to questions you!

Dude, why pick an argument over an indisputable fact?.

Funny thing is, I don't watch the games. Dolan does not get my money. Not a dime.

I despite your charges of being Laydogs boy, a Dolan suck up, have boycotted for some time, and will continue. "I have an assistant program the tivo, edit the ads, consolidate out the fluff, I can watch a game in 30 minutes or less.

Give me a rebuild, and I will suffer the rebuilding pains with everybody else.

HardFool, I am happy with any change in an organization direct regardless of whom is the GM. And I will bust your chops as you have mine until your recognize this.

Playa, do not cover my back. I don't want to get lopped in with your optomistic views. I appreciate your cheering enthusiasm, but thats not my gig? Ok?


[Edited by - Nalod on 12/24/2003 14:37:43]

Whats funny to me is the same people calling Spree "Classless" are the same one's who want Rasheed Wallace here......

I guess you guys weren't Knick fans in the early 90's when Oak and McDaniel were pushing people around....or better yet when Starks headbutt Miller.....

Posted by Nalod:

Dolan does not want those types here because his insecure ass feels threatened by anyone mentally stronger than him. That, in a nutshell, is why the team is as soft as it is now.

Kind of sounds like your reaction to when somebody does not agree with you.
Keep dreamin'. Mister dyslexic. It wasn't me who had to change my name from Nedyal to Nalod. Go figure.

[quote]Those are leader qualities. We have NO ONE with those characteristics on this team. Anyone making a futile attempt to dispute that fact obviously don't watch the games.

Oow, you sound like a Wrestling character! Deep husky voice daring anyone to questions you!
So I guess you're the rocket scientist who took the bait. Once again, you feel the need to validate your existence by confronting me. Too damn funny.

Dude, why pick an argument over an indisputable fact?.
Dude, why reply at all if YOU weren't the one picking an argument?

Funny thing is, I don't watch the games. Dolan does not get my money. Not a dime.
Then why even open your mouth on the topic?

I despite your charges of being Laydogs boy, a Dolan suck up, have boycotted for some time, and will continue. "I have an assistant program the tivo, edit the ads, consolidate out the fluff, I can watch a game in 30 minutes or less.
But you don't, right? Why mention it then? Stop with all the fluff, son. It's a watse of space.

Give me a rebuild, and I will suffer the rebuilding pains with everybody else.

HardFool, I am happy with any change in an organization direct regardless of whom is the GM. And I will bust your chops as you have mine until your recognize this.
You, bust my chops? Then what? Another name change? What's it gonna be next time? yenahc? How about Yssup? elohssa? toidi? drater? Those are some good ones- I know your dyslexic azz gets the message. LMAO


Playa, do not cover my back. I don't want to get lopped in with your optomistic views. I appreciate your cheering enthusiasm, but thats not my gig? Ok?
Aww... Breaking up is hard to do. Maybe you two can kiss and make up. You make such a cute couple!

[Edited by - HARDCOREKNICKSFAN on 12/25/2003 10:13:20]