So you keep signing one year guys until 2012? Awesome. There would be nothing but the Knicks City Dancers and the ushers watching the games at that point, and you're talking about putting Bosh in a situation where he'd be losing 50 games a year and getting booed off the court every home-game by the few people left watching, and being the joke of the league.

It's 2009. This is as embarrassing as the team has ever been under Layden, Isiah, Brown or anyone. 3 more years? That's your idea?

Are you related to Donnie Walsh?

If we don't get two star players in here in 2010, then MikeD and Donnie will be fired, er put out of their misery. Everyone has given Donnie a pass on his drafts. If all this waiting was for nothing, then he will be an infamous figure in NY sports history.

JohnWallace44 wrote:Come on man... I just threw up in my mouth reading this. 2012? What are you talking about?

So you keep signing one year guys until 2012? Awesome. There would be nothing but the Knicks City Dancers and the ushers watching the games at that point, and you're talking about putting Bosh in a situation where he'd be losing 50 games a year and getting booed off the court every home-game by the few people left watching, and being the joke of the league.

It's 2009. This is as embarrassing as the team has ever been under Layden, Isiah, Brown or anyone. 3 more years? That's your idea?

Are you related to Donnie Walsh?

If we don't get two star players in here in 2010, then MikeD and Donnie will be fired, er put out of their misery. Everyone has given Donnie a pass on his drafts. If all this waiting was for nothing, then he will be an infamous figure in NY sports history.

look, the pandora box is already open and this method of rebuilding is our course of choice. do i want to see this for two more years? of course not. but outside of wade and lebron, is there any other free agent next year that could turn this team around by themselves? no i dont think so. bosh is a piece and we need another. i dont think joe johnson is the answer either because even though he is very talented he is not a franchise player and has his flaws. we want a championship team and those players, tho good, are not franchise caliber players. i would be very upset if that was the case but it looks like the course now. however, if we do get bosh and not throw money at johnson we have an excellent player to build on and entice the next group of franchise caliber players which melo is unquestionably one and i think is more than willing to come to ny than any maybe lebron and definately wade. as far as 2012 is concerned, that is an extreme case and the worst scenerio but having the best pg or best center in the game, could it be worth it?

This stuff makes me crazy. I can't stand what Walsh is doing. If the rebuilding goes past 2010, then the jettisoning of Craw and Zach made no sense. That's why it's all on 2010. Plus you could have easily taken on contracts running through 2011 to make the team better and made 2011 the rebuilding date. If 2010 is not the answer, then I think the Dolans should just sell, let Mike walk, put Donnie out to pasture, hire a young, no-name coach and start from zero, start from the draft like we should have from day 1.

Olbrannon wrote:

Jrue Holiday 6'3.25" 6' 4.25" 199 6' 7" 8' 4.5" 6.3 28.5 10' 9" 34.0 11' 2.5" 6 10.64 3.21 NA 13
Toney Douglas 6' 1" 6' 2" 183 6' 6" 8' 1.5" 5.2 28.0 10' 5.5" 32.5 10' 10" 15 10.63 3.03 NA 36

My personal analysis of these statistics would indicate Holiday's arms are too short and he is slow afoot. Let's see he was a one year wonder at UCLA? How far out do you think this kid is? and you expect to be the next who?

If I remember the body fat % and bench press numbers he is worlds away. And a defensive liability and that is why he gets no burn?

in limited minutes holiday is shooting 55% fr the field and has hit 60% of his 3's. what was suppose to be a weakness his outside shooting he has already improved on. according to 82games.com 88% of his attempts have been jumpers and his efg is 92.9%. he has a very high passer (13.8) rating rebound rating (17.2) and hands rating (22.7).

http://www.82games.com/0910/09PHI1.HTM