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BRIGGS
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11/10/2009  11:18 PM
They are supposed to be a team that is winning and they are not. I believe strongly that Mcgee will be a very good player in this league--better than what most people think. His cap number next year is roughly the same as a 15 pick in the draft 1.6mm. I really think he would do great here. I wonder for all parties--if a Mcgee and James trade for Lee wouldnt benefit everyone involved. D Lee could play with a team that should be able to win some games and they have nice cap space for him. We don't have to worry about losing Lee for nothing. I know it takes two to tango but if they are not playing the kid--they are not playing him and D Lee is an 18-10 55% player who can be added right into the core.
If you put Mcgee at starting C here and give him 32 minutes and he would shock the NBA.
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11/10/2009  11:26 PM
Nice stat line from their last game. I can't believe that Young and McGee aren't spouting off to the media. I would.

Antawn Jamison, PF DNP CD
Mike Miller, SG DNP CD
Mike James, PG DNP CD
Paul Davis, C DNP CD
Nick Young, SG DNP CD
Javaris Crittenton, PG DNP CD
JaVale McGee, C DNP CD
Alan Hahn: Nate Robinson has been on a ridonkulous scoring tear lately (remember when he couldn't hit Jerome James with a Big Mac in early January?)
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11/10/2009  11:40 PM
I like the idea but it would be a hard trade to make contract wise.
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11/10/2009  11:40 PM
Haywood is back from injury and Blatche has had some really big games this year. However, Oberto seems to be getting minutes over McGee. Another guy not playing much is DeAndre Jordan.
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11/11/2009  12:26 AM
I understand that its just Summer League, but McGee was destroying people. Especially our boy Hill. He killed us the last time we played in the regular season too.

Kid's getting a rough deal there.

Alan Hahn: Nate Robinson has been on a ridonkulous scoring tear lately (remember when he couldn't hit Jerome James with a Big Mac in early January?)
BRIGGS
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11/11/2009  12:33 AM
JohnWallace44 wrote:I understand that its just Summer League, but McGee was destroying people. Especially our boy Hill. He killed us the last time we played in the regular season too.

Kid's getting a rough deal there.

These coaches want to go with older players. How badly could we use a 7 footer with all of his skills? He's like a Jermaine Oneal sitting on the Trailblazer's bench

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11/11/2009  12:35 AM
one of the few things I agree with briggs on.. I like mcgee as well and would love to have him here at center...
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11/11/2009  3:22 AM
He is a physical freak with some legit skills.

Is there something we're missing in terms of his mental makeup?

Does he have trouble working in a structured system?

Does he have issues with his consistency?

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11/11/2009  3:33 AM
I'd prefer Young to McGee, but I'd be okay with your proposed deal
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11/11/2009  3:57 AM
CrushAlot wrote:Haywood is back from injury and Blatche has had some really big games this year. However, Oberto seems to be getting minutes over McGee. Another guy not playing much is DeAndre Jordan.

DeAndre Jordan is ready to start last season...he has Kaman and Camby in front of him not to mention the #1 pick in the draft.

It will be interesting to see what Washington does when Jaimison comes back too....Knicks could use everyone mentioned.

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11/11/2009  4:46 AM
how about we d-bag them: Effries for McGee and James?
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11/11/2009  9:24 AM    LAST EDITED: 11/11/2009  10:10 AM
Hey I'd do it. No question. Only thing is, how do we convince Lee to accept a trade to go there? He's holding all the cards on us with his option to refuse a trade -- How do we sell it to him? If anything ever got serious, I guess we'd start by giving Washington permission to talk to Lee directly and then let them make their pitch -- let them explain to him how he's the missing piece, the idea of playing with a star like Arenas should make him even better, the idea of seriously making the playoffs (whereas over here it looks like a pipedream already even after only 8 games), how they want to lock him up long-term (hopefully they'd feel that way - that's a big key on Lee going anywhere I would think), etc.. I would think Wash. may have to cough up that extra million bucks we were going to give him for making the playoffs, kind of as a sweetener - or maybe Wash. gives it to him and we kick it back to them [I know, probably illegal, plus Nate would bitch about getting his million then] -- still don't understand how the Knicks we're able to do that anyway - doesn't it circumvent the cap in a way??). Washington's not that far from NY too, maybe that helps the cause a little. I don't know man. Not impossible I guess, but I think Washington would be a tough sell...

I think the top two places Lee would approve to go would be Portland and Orlando. Both teams are young and loaded with talent. Both teams are good with bright futures. Portland wanted Lee, that much is clear. He was the first guy they offered a contract to this past offseason before they threw money at Paul Millsap as a 2nd choice (who then resigned with Utah) and settled on Andre Miller (choice #3). That frontcourt void Portland thinks they have is still there though - they did nothing to address it. There would be immediate dialogue between Donnie & Pritchard no matter who called who - it all boils down to Pritchard's willingness to give up at least one young piece in the deal (Bayless or Fernandez) and not just Blake and Outlaw. I think this deal would've gotten done over the summer but Pritchard refused to give up Fernandez who Donnie insisted on having...We'll have to see if Portland ever relents..

Orlando's another destination that might make some sense. Best team in the Eastern Conference, I think, with a legit chance to beat the Lakers and win it all, maybe with Lee's help. That's gotta be appealing right there...Something like Lee for Adonal Foyle's expiring contract, Ryan Anderson, JJ Redick & cash might work. Works for me -- we'd get a nice younger piece to move ahead with at the PF spot and finally a legit 2-guard in Redick (Anderson & Redick along with Gallo would now give D'Antoni 3 really good outside shooters to work with). For Orlando, Lee takes Anderson's spot and would be a tremendous complement to Howard, Anderson's perimeter offense is covered once Lewis gets back and Redick is really behind Vince Carter and Pietrus at the 2 once everyone's healthy anyway. You figure Florida is an easy sell on destination alone (many normal working-class folks can only dream about moving there when they retire) and I think Howard and Lee are friends (weren't they in that ESPN commercial together not too long ago??). I could see the Magic going either way on a proposal like this -- either they'd welcome the idea of adding Lee thinking he could help them (they are very close, why not go for it -- how many perimeter players can one team have anyway? It's a little overkill down there right now) or they may pass, thinking Anderson alone is younger and more talented and that Gortat can give them basically what Lee would when they decide to go big with Howard & Gortat on the floor at the same time. I wonder how they'd look at something like this..

Another option that makes a ton of sense would be Lee to Golden State. That team's whole frontcourt is banged up right now and they have a surplus of young backcourt talent that could help us. I won't even bother discussing guys like Randolph and Curry, they're not giving those guys up let's face it, but I'd love to get my hands on guys like Anthony Morrow, Acie Law and/or CJ Watson. Those guys can play and 2 of the 3, Law and Watson, are really buried on the depth chart right now. Like Washington, GS would be a tough sell for Lee though I suppose (it's all the way across the country and Nellie's crazy -- there's talk now that management may buy him out of the last couple of years of his deal where he'd then turn around and go to Maui to retire or some crap)...Still, there's a lot of talent there and Lee would fill a gigantic hole...

Anyone think of anything else?

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11/11/2009  9:46 AM
Paladin55 wrote:He is a physical freak with some legit skills.

Is there something we're missing in terms of his mental makeup?

Does he have trouble working in a structured system?

Does he have issues with his consistency?

I think that the Wizards are dead set on going with veteran players--that is why Young and Mcgee have been ceremonially knocked out--but both have the talent in the right situation to thrive imho.

Mcgee's don't come around to often. What he needs is a consistent chance--he was a consistent bench player last year. If he was already in full bloom--then there would be no chance to even talk about it.

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11/11/2009  9:57 AM
BRIGGS wrote:
Paladin55 wrote:He is a physical freak with some legit skills.

Is there something we're missing in terms of his mental makeup?

Does he have trouble working in a structured system?

Does he have issues with his consistency?

I think that the Wizards are dead set on going with veteran players--that is why Young and Mcgee have been ceremonially knocked out--but both have the talent in the right situation to thrive imho.

Mcgee's don't come around to often. What he needs is a consistent chance--he was a consistent bench player last year. If he was already in full bloom--then there would be no chance to even talk about it.

dude, call walsh up, seriously. make it happen

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11/11/2009  10:01 AM
knicks should get mcgee so he can sit on the pine next to the other center on the team...

anyone notice there are no "C's" in d'antoni?

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11/11/2009  10:30 AM
Isn't Grunfeld running the show in Washington? Even if Flip isn't playing Young and McGee im not sure that Ernie is going to give them up for our garbage. Nick Young would be great in this system. As for McGee, I agree with DJ, there are no centers in his system.

DJ, i bet McGee would have blocked this shot

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11/11/2009  11:24 AM
Lee's basically putting up 20 & 10 right now more or less. I wonder how much value he has in a lot of GMs' eyes. I wonder if they think that it's fool's gold and a product of D'Antoni's system or if they think it's legit and that he could help their team. Not even sure what I believe anymore..
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11/11/2009  11:41 AM
Finestrg wrote:Lee's basically putting up 20 & 10 right now more or less. I wonder how much value he has in a lot of GMs' eyes. I wonder if they think that it's fool's gold and a product of D'Antoni's system or if they think it's legit and that he could help their team. Not even sure what I believe anymore..

No DLee is a very good basketball player--he has taken to many shots and not enough rebounds to start the season--reason being he takes too many jumpers and is not in the same position. That being said it's nice that he expanded his game. I think a ton of teams wish they had Lee. He would be best set playing NEXT to a real C--remember we kind of had something with Dlee and Curry starting but our coach doesnt want two bigs which leaves us perpetually small. That is why I think we might be best set trading D Lee for a true 7 footer who can block some shots and clog the lane.

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11/11/2009  11:47 AM
BRIGGS wrote:
Finestrg wrote:Lee's basically putting up 20 & 10 right now more or less. I wonder how much value he has in a lot of GMs' eyes. I wonder if they think that it's fool's gold and a product of D'Antoni's system or if they think it's legit and that he could help their team. Not even sure what I believe anymore..

No DLee is a very good basketball player--he has taken to many shots and not enough rebounds to start the season--reason being he takes too many jumpers and is not in the same position. That being said it's nice that he expanded his game. I think a ton of teams wish they had Lee. He would be best set playing NEXT to a real C--remember we kind of had something with Dlee and Curry starting but our coach doesnt want two bigs which leaves us perpetually small. That is why I think we might be best set trading D Lee for a true 7 footer who can block some shots and clog the lane.

Hey I hear ya. So you think Lee would accept a trade to go there?

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11/11/2009  11:58 AM
Paladin55 wrote:He is a physical freak with some legit skills.

Is there something we're missing in terms of his mental makeup?

Does he have trouble working in a structured system?

Does he have issues with his consistency?

I'm sure that the guy has issues with defensive positioning, but he couldn't be worse than our interior defenders.

The only problem he would have in our system is that I doubt his defender would actually come all the way out to the 3 point line on that pick and roll play.

He can shoot baby hook shots and short jumpers, but doesn't look like he has much beyond ten feet at the moment.

Alan Hahn: Nate Robinson has been on a ridonkulous scoring tear lately (remember when he couldn't hit Jerome James with a Big Mac in early January?)
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