JohnWallace44 wrote:You could make that same video with every Knick unfortunately.

Duhon would make a full length movie though.

Of course, but, Mike's response on the bench was directly related to Lee's blocked 3 and Lee's subsequent lack of defense on the other end so it seemed fitting. The other plays I added after that came just afterwards as well.

but it's true, you can make it about every knick. it seems like every game a different knick has a horrible performance.

Finestrg wrote:What he's doing is quitely averaging 20 & 10.

lol, yea, but even to his biggest supporters, you can't deny the lack of defense anymore. it's just a lack of energy or want to do anything on that end of the floor. still, he definitely has the athletic gifts to at least be an average defender, someone needs to get under him a little. balance that energy out between offense and defense, and you've got a more complete player.

I think Coach Pringles going to zone is a way to hide Lee's ineffectiveness in D.

tkf wrote:LEE Has gone from an efficient scorer and great rebounder, to a shot seeker... not good at all..

I am back and forth on this. Lee could keep doing his shallow water and pick-n-roll thing, which is VERY good, but he could also become deadly if he can establish that 18 footer. If you don't take, you can't improve. We all know he either has or will continue to put in the time, but he also needs the opportunity to shoot it.

Now, he has to do it within the flow. Couple of times it seems like he just hoists, but that could also be because Free Candy and Wilson and Duhon have no conscience. We shall see.

Andrew wrote:I'm pretty sure D'antonis reaction was not directed towards the DLee 3 pointer. I remember slightly later in the sequence he is motioning to some Knick (off screen) to shoot the ball (maybe Duhon?). Lee got the ball with little time left on the shot clock and no choice.

His reaction was to the complete lack of defense on the other end by Lee after that 3pt hoist. Where Lee calmly floated down the court and turned just in time to see a Utah Jazz right under the basket - of whom should have been his man to watch - of whom Lee promptly fouls because he was out of position. They cut to mike's reaction to that particular play.

The 3pt Hoist - Lee wasn't supposed to go to that spot he was supposed to go inside and the other player in the play who goes to the corner - did so after Lee took his spot. Again, poor awareness.

Then you have Lee coming down and trying to create for himself which was a bumbling mess.

Then you have Lee pulling a 20 foot turnaround jumper.

A big old mess of a sequence by Dave.

Cosmic wrote:

Elite wrote:lee had to shoot that 3 the shot clock was up.

This video didnt make sense to me, Lee is the least of our problems.

Makea "what are you doing" video for Duhon or Chandler those are the 2 main culprits right now

You've missed the point. Lee blows the defensive assignment, they cut to Dantoni saying "what is he doing". Throw in the prior play and subsequent plays (I describe them just above this post)

And, yes, this little run of tape, questioning "what is he doing" makes 100% sense.

Lee the least of our problems? No he's not. He's a primary player who gets torched and has downgraded his offensive game to chucker. That's a big problem for us.

But the system as a whole is malfunctioning, and not THE system. It's just that there is no chemistry, there is no loyalty to the cause. This will cause ALL players within the system to under-perform.

Think of this... if you took each one of our guys individually and put them in an optimal culture-- a winning club where all is peachy-- do you think they would have even half of these problems that they do now?

Thinking this way, I think getting rid of Al harrington would go a long way in improving team chemistry.

To use an example from my own experience...I am a pretty good basketball player, and was one of the better players on my last rec-league team in terms of talent. But we never won a game taht I played in, and finished the season 1-8. Our only win coming when I wasnt there. furthermore, we got blown out in most of the games I played in, but were very close in all of the ones I didn't. Now, does this reflect poorly on me? to a certain extent, yes, STILL, the underlying reason is that I was playing on a brand new team made up of a group of friends plus me. It was a weird situation. we all got along off the court and whatnot and I made a few friends from the experience, but we just didn't have the on-court chemistry to compete, even if our overall talent level was higher with me on the court than with me off the court.

Cosmic wrote:

Elite wrote:lee had to shoot that 3 the shot clock was up.

This video didnt make sense to me, Lee is the least of our problems.

Makea "what are you doing" video for Duhon or Chandler those are the 2 main culprits right now

You've missed the point. Lee blows the defensive assignment, they cut to Dantoni saying "what is he doing". Throw in the prior play and subsequent plays (I describe them just above this post)

And, yes, this little run of tape, questioning "what is he doing" makes 100% sense.

Lee the least of our problems? No he's not. He's a primary player who gets torched and has downgraded his offensive game to chucker. That's a big problem for us.

yea, even walt said, that lee took 20 shots the other game. he said lee should not be taking 20 shots... many of you may not agree, but I much rather gallo take more shots than anyone on this team. he shoots a better % and makes better decisions... Lee is looking for his shot and he is now taking them with hands in his face.. not his game..