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TheGame
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10/29/2009  9:33 AM
The 7 seconds or less offense works great when you have great shooters on your team. We, however, have one potentially great shooter (Gallo), one usually solid shooter (Nate), and several only decent shooters (Chandler, Harrington, and Lee). Guys like Harrington and CHandler could probably take their man down low and score very easily. Do we have to run 7 seconds or less the entire game? It is like if a guys posts up on the low block, it is by accident. While I love the pick and roll plays, I think MDA also should incorporate a few more post-up plays to settle the team down when we have a bad shooting night, like last night.
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10/29/2009  9:58 AM
While I agree with your premise, do Harrington and Chandler have the ability to post up? Neither has ever really done that a whole lot. So if we don't have guys that can post, why are we going to post?
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10/29/2009  10:00 AM
the question is whether or not you feel d'antoni is using his roster correctly...
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10/29/2009  10:58 AM    LAST EDITED: 10/29/2009  10:58 AM
TheGame wrote:The 7 seconds or less offense works great when you have great shooters on your team. We, however, have one potentially great shooter (Gallo), one usually solid shooter (Nate), and several only decent shooters (Chandler, Harrington, and Lee). Guys like Harrington and CHandler could probably take their man down low and score very easily. Do we have to run 7 seconds or less the entire game? It is like if a guys posts up on the low block, it is by accident. While I love the pick and roll plays, I think MDA also should incorporate a few more post-up plays to settle the team down when we have a bad shooting night, like last night.

I agree--watch the Lakers--they try to post up every play if they can--either their guards or their bigs. Phil J has won 10 championships. My thinking more and more was that Mike D was given a great opportunity that NO coach couldve failed with in Phoenix and had a nice nice run there but to think we are going to have a young Shaun Marion Stoudemire JJ etc... in their absolute prime without injury being run by Steve Nash--that is not happening here.

One problem is we dont have real post players and Mike D doesnt want to do that anyway.

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10/29/2009  11:05 AM    LAST EDITED: 10/29/2009  11:07 AM
nyk4ever wrote:While I agree with your premise, do Harrington and Chandler have the ability to post up? Neither has ever really done that a whole lot. So if we don't have guys that can post, why are we going to post?

I know harrington has that talent. Chandler less so but when he plays someone smaller, like a wade, I would think he has the talent to score on him on the block. I am not saying we should go to a postup offense, but it might help to give teams different looks. Teams are better at defending our pick and roll plays and we don't have a Nash to make the play work to it's ultimate effectiveness (duhon is not the same type of jump shooter as Nash.

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10/29/2009  11:23 AM
MDA is most likely gonna give this team a chance to see if the shooting will get better, before he makes any changes. They can shoot better than this and they have. If and when Curry gets in shape we will see them post him a lot more. Darko could also see more time in the post. Al should have no problem doing it should MDA want to call a few more post ups. Just remember that when he had bigs that could post effectively he did use it.

Also Briggs please stop with the notion that MDA's success was merely due to some great roster cuz actually his PHX team wasn't that loaded, he got more out of that team than anyone 1st expected. No one saw their success coming when they got Nash that 1st year. No one said you know that Nash guy is an MVP level player before MDA!!!
Give him his due. Plus you don't know who we're gonna add this summer!!! Don't be so negative and dramatic about this coach and what kind of future roster Walsh will give him.
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10/29/2009  1:07 PM
Nobody wins without a great roster, yet we continually discredit our coaches for winning with good rosters.

I'm not going to knock D'Antoni's system because he's not winning here. The reality is that our roster stinks. Now if we improve the roster and still can't win, then I will get on D'Antoni's system. I will say that ultimately he will need a post up player to make this team more balanced. When we get the player I think you will see adjustments, in the meantime we are a jumpshooting team. Perhaps if we had Dejuan Blair...........

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10/29/2009  1:38 PM
How out of shape is Curry? Is he much worse than his one good year with us? Would it be awful for MDA to play him 10 mins a game while he gets in shape, and incorporate Curry's one superb skill?

If we had Shaq in his prime, would MDA have him in the high post making passes?

I think so.

And while I love MDA and his style of play, I'm disappointed he can't or won't adopt to this roster some.
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10/29/2009  1:43 PM
franco12 wrote:How out of shape is Curry? Is he much worse than his one good year with us? Would it be awful for MDA to play him 10 mins a game while he gets in shape, and incorporate Curry's one superb skill?

fouling?

franco12 wrote:And while I love MDA and his style of play, I'm disappointed he can't or won't adopt to this roster some.

What's there to adjust to? What can his roster do?

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10/29/2009  1:51 PM
Berman is reporting Curry possibly in practice by Monday.
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10/29/2009  1:58 PM
Olbrannon wrote:Berman is reporting sensationalizing that Curry possibly in practice by Monday.

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10/29/2009  2:34 PM
martin wrote:
Olbrannon wrote:Berman is reporting sensationalizing that Curry possibly in practice by Monday.

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10/29/2009  2:43 PM
martin wrote:
franco12 wrote:How out of shape is Curry? Is he much worse than his one good year with us? Would it be awful for MDA to play him 10 mins a game while he gets in shape, and incorporate Curry's one superb skill?

fouling?

franco12 wrote:And while I love MDA and his style of play, I'm disappointed he can't or won't adopt to this roster some.

What's there to adjust to? What can his roster do?

On the roster- probably not much. But look back when Don Chaney was our coach - GOD I hated him and his BORING offense. But he won 37 games with what I think many here will argue was a less talented squad than what we have now.

Why? Because he played slow it up and keep it close and hope to get lucky.

MDA is Full throttle, hope we as a team get hot from 3 to win.

If we aren't hitting three pointers, what is the game plan? What is plan b? There is none!
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10/29/2009  3:36 PM
A year ago, before we traded Randolph, he was used in the low post a lot. But he was a good post up player.
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10/29/2009  3:51 PM
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martin wrote:
franco12 wrote:How out of shape is Curry? Is he much worse than his one good year with us? Would it be awful for MDA to play him 10 mins a game while he gets in shape, and incorporate Curry's one superb skill?

fouling?

franco12 wrote:And while I love MDA and his style of play, I'm disappointed he can't or won't adopt to this roster some.

What's there to adjust to? What can his roster do?

On the roster- probably not much. But look back when Don Chaney was our coach - GOD I hated him and his BORING offense. But he won 37 games with what I think many here will argue was a less talented squad than what we have now.

Why? Because he played slow it up and keep it close and hope to get lucky.

MDA is Full throttle, hope we as a team get hot from 3 to win.

If we aren't hitting three pointers, what is the game plan? What is plan b? There is none!

Chaney's roster was MUCH more professional and experienced than what the Knicks got today. It's not even close.

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10/29/2009  4:33 PM
Who on this team, besides fatso, can post up? I mean Lee can do it on occasion, as can Harrington. But Lee is proving he's more comfortable facing up and Harrington is proving he's a perimeter player.
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10/29/2009  4:54 PM    LAST EDITED: 10/29/2009  4:55 PM
martin wrote:
franco12 wrote:
martin wrote:
franco12 wrote:How out of shape is Curry? Is he much worse than his one good year with us? Would it be awful for MDA to play him 10 mins a game while he gets in shape, and incorporate Curry's one superb skill?

fouling?

franco12 wrote:And while I love MDA and his style of play, I'm disappointed he can't or won't adopt to this roster some.

What's there to adjust to? What can his roster do?

On the roster- probably not much. But look back when Don Chaney was our coach - GOD I hated him and his BORING offense. But he won 37 games with what I think many here will argue was a less talented squad than what we have now.

Why? Because he played slow it up and keep it close and hope to get lucky.

MDA is Full throttle, hope we as a team get hot from 3 to win.

If we aren't hitting three pointers, what is the game plan? What is plan b? There is none!

Chaney's roster was MUCH more professional and experienced than what the Knicks got today. It's not even close.

You had a veteran line-up with players that had won before. This line-up has never won and we don't have any players that really know how to win. This current team has more talent, but Chaney's team was a better team.

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10/29/2009  5:17 PM
Harrington and Chandler are both very effective in the post especially Harrington. They need to post them more... especially when Wilson is playing the 2 he is way taller than 2s
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10/29/2009  5:19 PM
How can you argue this team is more talented than anyone?

We have one complete player in Chandler and he's being asked to do something that he's not capable of in carrying this team.

Crawford and ZBo were so much better than the players that are left on this team. They were not at all the answers, but they were good.

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