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ESPN's Bill Simmons NBA Preview part on Knicks
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CrushAlot
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10/23/2009  8:39 PM
17. Donnie Walsh
The bad news for the Knicks: no 2010 first-round pick; no marketable players; not enough 2010 cap space to add multiple pieces; a decade of losing; possible mistakes in the 2008 draft (missing Eric Gordon) and 2009 draft (getting stuck with the eighth pick in a seven-player draft, and even worse, being totally blindsided by this reality when you went on the clock at No. 8).



The good news: Mike D'Antoni; the ongoing comedy of the Darko Milicic era; an outside chance that LeBron will be dumb enough to sign there. That's really it. You know, because what could be more enticing for someone with a chance to become one of the five greatest players ever than a chance to carry a poorly run team with no foundation and no help for the next few years? I mean, he has to be chomping at the bit to be a Knick! Who wouldn't want to relive Wayne Gretzky's experience with the 1989 Kings? That sounds awesome!



(Note: It's stunning how many Knicks fans don't realize that the team doesn't own its 2010 first-round pick. Either they forgot or they're in denial. In their defense, Isiah Thomas traded it nearly six years ago as part of the Marbury trade. Can you believe the Isiah/Marbury horror movie is STILL haunting the Knicks? That's had more sequels than the "Saw" franchise.)
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10/23/2009  9:10 PM
overly pessimistic, unfounded in reality, disconnected. i can't take seriously any national analyst's commentary on the knicks.
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10/23/2009  9:12 PM
Bill Simmons is a loser. He's funny but he's too much of a Boston homer to take seriously.
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10/23/2009  9:31 PM
What Knick fan is he talking about with his, they-dont-know-they-dont-have-their-number-one-pick nonsense? Who you lyin to, B?

That was pure, unadulterated Boston-brewed NY hate right there. I like how even if we do sign Lebron somehow we still wouldnt be shyt.
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10/23/2009  9:38 PM
We don't have our lottery pick? Wait what?
lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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10/23/2009  9:52 PM
We dont need no STINKIN lottery pick, we got Jordan Hill!
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10/23/2009  10:29 PM
I didn't know Bill Simmons still wrote?
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10/23/2009  10:31 PM
funny thing is Simmons has been right where we are usually more optomistic.

We are fans, not average fans!

Every year we call out Chad Ford an Simmons as being anti knick and usually they are right.

We have yet to lose a game and we are fans of hope.

Its true, we are like an expansion ass team now. Thats better than what we were the last few years.

don't matter what our record is cuz we don't got it anyway. But if its top 3 its gonna suck.
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10/23/2009  10:33 PM
I don't know if he's been right. He just predicts the worst but takes a skewed path to get there. That's just blind guessing. He doesn't know what he's talking about. If the Knicks suck it will be for entirely different reasons than he tried to lay out.
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10/23/2009  10:54 PM
Sounds pretty spot on to me. Just because you're a big-time fan of a franchise doesn't mean you have to drink the kool-aid.
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10/23/2009  10:56 PM
you're a traitor, johnwallace, it's not drinking cool-aid but realizing the cold, hard facts. this is a budding lotus waiting to ejaculate on us with the beauty of 45 wins.
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10/23/2009  11:27 PM
Posted by JohnWallace44:

Sounds pretty spot on to me. Just because you're a big-time fan of a franchise doesn't mean you have to drink the kool-aid.

Having common sense has nothing to do with Kool-Aid. Blindly hating is drinking the sour tasting Kool-Aid.
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10/23/2009  11:30 PM
Two quick questions for the cats supporting Simmons...

What exactly has Simmons been right about exactly?

What would the Cavs record be without Lebron James and what would our record be with him?

Hockey is completely different than B-ball so comparing Gretzky to Lebron in that context is ridiculous.
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10/23/2009  11:47 PM
If the Knicks were really good and I felt like they were going to contend I would be really frustrated with this article. However, while he is attempting to be funny he is not far from the truth. I disagree with his assertion that Knick fans are ignorant of the 2010 pick but I also am not sure that D'Antoni is good for the Knicks. I don't like Simmon's but this is an example of what the slightly more than casual fan's opinion of the Knick organization is.
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10/24/2009  12:07 AM
Exactly, how could you say on one hand that NY fans are the most knowledgable fans, then say were stupid enough not to relize we don't have 2k10 pick.

what were missing is a franchise player.

BTW i can't believe were on our 8th losing season..
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10/24/2009  1:38 AM
It's easy to just be negative and predict failure when a team is in the cap hell we were in, but he seems to be totally biased in his preview. Gallo, Chan, Lee and Nate are good young NBA players. You put Legron or Wade with this group and we're at least a top 6 team in the East. Thing is we'll add more than just one top player. We should have enough money to get a Max player and another good FA.

This year I think this team will earn some respect as a decent team. Just watching them I see a more focused group. Heck Jared alone has to give u some hope cuz if that guy can hit jumpers now anything is possible. Of course we could crash n burn again but I don't see that happening this time.
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10/24/2009  3:14 AM
Posted by nixluva:

It's easy to just be negative and predict failure when a team is in the cap hell we were in, but he seems to be totally biased in his preview. Gallo, Chan, Lee and Nate are good young NBA players. You put Legron or Wade with this group and we're at least a top 6 team in the East. Thing is we'll add more than just one top player. We should have enough money to get a Max player and another good FA.

This year I think this team will earn some respect as a decent team. Just watching them I see a more focused group. Heck Jared alone has to give u some hope cuz if that guy can hit jumpers now anything is possible. Of course we could crash n burn again but I don't see that happening this time.

Papabear Says

Here is the problem. If we get a star player next season it just might be a problem for him watching everyone hoisting up jumpers and 3 pointers. The mindset must change. We need a boss out there and everyone else must listen and obey. if they don't, then By By. I don't see us getting James even they say the commisioner dont want that. I think we might focus on Lee, chandler, Gialani. Like is said before Nate I like his game but not his head. He is too much of a clown and an attention grabber and seems to never take anything serious. He will never change I believe and he is the type of guy who won't listen to Lebron or anyone else about changing the way he acts. He is what he is and I'm not saying he is a bad guy, I just think that he is just the kind of guy that don't know how to be focused through a whole game night after night.
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10/24/2009  6:08 AM
Bips keys to happiness, tip #743: Don't worry so much about what other people say or think.

Bill Simmons is right until proven wrong. Other than that, it's just words and will have no effect on whether your team will actually be good/bad
I just hope that people will like me
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10/24/2009  6:12 AM
Wise words from a wise man.
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10/24/2009  1:59 PM
The Knicks are a bad team and as such columnist will continue to write negative articles about them. Every year it's the same routine with Sports writers predict the worse, Knick fans pitch a fit, and the Knick end up performing poorly as predicted by everyone except their fans.

Negative articles should only serve as a motivation for the team and should be ignored by the fans.

[Edited by - bitty41 on 10-24-2009 2:01 PM]
ESPN's Bill Simmons NBA Preview part on Knicks

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