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Cosmic
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10/16/2009  6:47 PM
Stan Van Gundy 35K + 35K Magic fine = 70K - October 15
Lionel Hollins 25K + 25K Grizzlies fine = 50K - October 12
Larry Brown 60K + 60K Bobcats fine = 120K - October 12

The Grizzlies played the Magic on October 12th. The league just made 170K out of nowhere because their garbage preseason refs are annoying team.


240K Fines already handed out over these crap refs and it's just preseason.

Pathetic Stu Jackson and David Stern. Pathetic.
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10/16/2009  6:49 PM
hey if the fines went to your bank account you'd love them
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10/16/2009  6:52 PM
Posted by Cosmic:

Stan Van Gundy 35K + 35K Magic fine = 70K - October 15
Lionel Hollins 25K + 25K Grizzlies fine = 50K - October 12
Larry Brown 60K + 60K Bobcats fine = 120K - October 12

The Grizzlies played the Magic on October 12th. The league just made 170K out of nowhere because their garbage preseason refs are annoying team.


240K Fines already handed out over these crap refs and it's just preseason.

Pathetic Stu Jackson and David Stern. Pathetic.

These fines actually help raise the salary cap. Let it be.
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10/16/2009  7:21 PM
Posted by kam77:
Posted by Cosmic:

Stan Van Gundy 35K + 35K Magic fine = 70K - October 15
Lionel Hollins 25K + 25K Grizzlies fine = 50K - October 12
Larry Brown 60K + 60K Bobcats fine = 120K - October 12

The Grizzlies played the Magic on October 12th. The league just made 170K out of nowhere because their garbage preseason refs are annoying team.


240K Fines already handed out over these crap refs and it's just preseason.

Pathetic Stu Jackson and David Stern. Pathetic.

These fines actually help raise the salary cap. Let it be.


Triple them I say. Just for this year and next.
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LOL

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10/16/2009  7:41 PM
i agree with even great penalties. say what you want to the refs during the game, it's the heat of the battle. but to coem out after the dust has settled and criticise refs is just not a good look. they're performing their job duties as best as they can, just as the coaches. there is no respect.
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10/16/2009  8:29 PM
Maybe with all the fine money they can give it to the better refs and the strike will be over.
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10/16/2009  8:30 PM
i dont miss the rigged refs i hated knowing the refs by name-- they become so much apart of the game hard not to remember them. yea give the money to the good refs and let the rigged refs stay home.

[Edited by - coolbeans on 10-16-2009 10:32 PM]
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10/16/2009  11:46 PM
Caoches must be insane to even pay attension to replacement refs.
Stuppidity MUST be fined!!!!
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10/17/2009  12:03 AM
JVG's 100,000 fine is always the one that stick out for me. Jeff is a guy with character and he would not have said what he said if it wasn't true. I lost alot of respect for Stern after that.
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10/17/2009  5:47 AM
The new refs suck. The old refs sucked too but the new refs are taking it to a new level. The league is going have had out $2 million in fines if they go through the season with these refs because coaches and players are going to complain. they need to resolve the strike.
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10/17/2009  6:32 AM
http://nba.fanhouse.com/2009/09/21/locked-out-wife-stern-doesnt-appreciate-nba-referees
In response to the league's demands the wife of veteran NBA official wrote this letter to the National Basketball Referees Association executive board to provide a family's perspective.

The 'offers' made by the NBA are insulting to our families. The NBA has repeatedly stated that their goal this year is to bring the referees compensation and benefits more in line with the rest of the NBA office employees and its administrative staff. [...] It does not, however, make sense given the sacrifices our families make every day. I would even go so far as to say that the sacrifice we make is larger than that that made of anyone in the NBA, including the players.

[Edited by - coolbeans on 10-17-2009 06:32 AM]
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Posted by coolbeans:

http://nba.fanhouse.com/2009/09/21/locked-out-wife-stern-doesnt-appreciate-nba-referees
In response to the league's demands the wife of veteran NBA official wrote this letter to the National Basketball Referees Association executive board to provide a family's perspective.

The 'offers' made by the NBA are insulting to our families. The NBA has repeatedly stated that their goal this year is to bring the referees compensation and benefits more in line with the rest of the NBA office employees and its administrative staff. [...] It does not, however, make sense given the sacrifices our families make every day. I would even go so far as to say that the sacrifice we make is larger than that that made of anyone in the NBA, including the players.

[Edited by - coolbeans on 10-17-2009 06:32 AM]

This is a woman who does not know when to shut up. I work in an auto factory (Delphi Harrison, yes the bankruptcy one) and it was people like this made it hard on the rest of us over the past few years.

Just the fact that she says the families of the refs have "sacrificed" more than the players is ludicrous. Just from that perspective, I don't want to generalize, but I highly doubt that referees have some of the priorities during the "off season" that some players do such as media, charity, organizational appearances, etc., etc.

Referees also don't make the news, except Timmy boy. Even boiling it down to family, I am sure if an NBA referee has a bad game or makes a mistake, lil' nba referee doesn't have to worry about hearing it at school the same way as Player X's kid if he screws up or misses a big shot.

Speaking in a more general term, and this is from experience, when you start to resort to saying "well, we sacrifice more than..." it means you don't sacrifice enough. I would love, LOVE to hear how this woman could justify a generalizing statement like that.

Sorry I may be over reacting but I have been through something like this before and he more people that talk, the more complicated it gets-especially through the media. I am sure the referees do sacrifice but this is about the refs, there is no need pull other classifications of employees into it.
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Posted by joec32033:
Posted by coolbeans:

http://nba.fanhouse.com/2009/09/21/locked-out-wife-stern-doesnt-appreciate-nba-referees
In response to the league's demands the wife of veteran NBA official wrote this letter to the National Basketball Referees Association executive board to provide a family's perspective.

The 'offers' made by the NBA are insulting to our families. The NBA has repeatedly stated that their goal this year is to bring the referees compensation and benefits more in line with the rest of the NBA office employees and its administrative staff. [...] It does not, however, make sense given the sacrifices our families make every day. I would even go so far as to say that the sacrifice we make is larger than that that made of anyone in the NBA, including the players.

[Edited by - coolbeans on 10-17-2009 06:32 AM]

This is a woman who does not know when to shut up. I work in an auto factory (Delphi Harrison, yes the bankruptcy one) and it was people like this made it hard on the rest of us over the past few years.

Just the fact that she says the families of the refs have "sacrificed" more than the players is ludicrous. Just from that perspective, I don't want to generalize, but I highly doubt that referees have some of the priorities during the "off season" that some players do such as media, charity, organizational appearances, etc., etc.

Referees also don't make the news, except Timmy boy. Even boiling it down to family, I am sure if an NBA referee has a bad game or makes a mistake, lil' nba referee doesn't have to worry about hearing it at school the same way as Player X's kid if he screws up or misses a big shot.

Speaking in a more general term, and this is from experience, when you start to resort to saying "well, we sacrifice more than..." it means you don't sacrifice enough. I would love, LOVE to hear how this woman could justify a generalizing statement like that.

Sorry I may be over reacting but I have been through something like this before and he more people that talk, the more complicated it gets-especially through the media. I am sure the referees do sacrifice but this is about the refs, there is no need pull other classifications of employees into it.

Totally agree. The players' get it the worst. Now I will agree that a refs' life is probably worse than a normal NBA employee, but this lady is way off base in her claims. The bottomline, the NBA wants to get refs salaries under control and the refs don't like it. But unlike the players, the refs have less leverage. You cannot replace a Lebron or Kobe. BUt you can replace Ed Rush or any of hte other veteran refs. The refs better hope this thing is resolved before the replacement refs finally figure out how to competently ref a NBA game.
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