Than I would start trying to dump everyone on a one year contract for picks young cheap assets or even additional cap space. I think we need to play Jefferies and it seems like he will earn that time anyway. If we are 13-17 or better and showing promise--then I may hold but anything less---dumpathon. If we get out 1-8 or something like that--I may initiate those talks sooner. We have no way to sign back everyone--so if we are not successful or atleast showing serious signs of being successful--I would be trying to pull the trigger early before other teams do.

but whats the point of filling our team with scrubs if we dont even have our pick?

What's the most we'd be able to get in return?

Trading Al Harrington (expiring) for a lesser player on an expiring deal to aid a contender is going to get you what?

a 2nd round pick?

I think BRIGGS is right. The Godfather has enough assets to get a 1st round pick. Nate, DLee, Harrington can be valuable 1 year mercenaries for a contender needing an extra player for the playoff push.

One example would be a Nate, Mobley for Big Z and CLE 1st RD Pick which would likely be a late first rounder. Cavs need a dynamic player and BigZ and Shaq is not going to work.

If TMac is still on the fritz then Houston may look into getting DLee, Hughes and Nate for TMac and 2 1st rounders(1 future).

There are just so many possibilities. The Godfather has put us in a great position.


[Edited by - NYKBocker on 10-01-2009 10:21 AM]

Pretty sure Nate and Lee are basically untradable unless we're sending them somewhere they want to go.

They don't have to agree on a trade. They re-signed for one year. That was only if they took the QO. They did not and chose to sign a new contract.

Posted by JohnWallace44:

better check that. I'm pretty sure the same rule applies when you're under any one year deal

I think that's right.

Lee and Nate can veto any trade this year.

I hear what you're saying about the 30-game mark as a barometer but their evaluation process & patience will most likely extend a little longer than that as will other teams with respect to their own situations as well. If anything I think contending teams or bubble teams will wait right up until the deadline before they consider trading for additional components that may get them over the hump. That's usually how it goes - evaluate your own up until the last minute to make sure the answers can't come from within. As for a Pau Gasol-type move during the season, as good a player like that is, I don't see us doing something like that - they feel optimum cap room is the most important thing for them right now.

The guys I think you're talking about on our team are already on 1-yr. deals so getting addition cap space doesn't really seem possible (any trade for any of our one-and-done guys is just gonna be contract for contract, unless you're talking about moving Curry or Jeffries which I hope happens but doesn't seem likely) and I doubt we could get any picks -- decent 1st round picks -- for anyone but maybe I'm wrong (if anything maybe we could snag a 1st rounder for Lee or Nate in a package when the time comes but with their veto power, I don't see them going anywhere unless it's completely desirable for them like going to a title contender or going to play the rest of the year with D-Wade in South Beach, something like that... Neither of these two are accepting any trade to go to a less desirable place like Minny or Memphis for half a season just to help Donnie & the Knicks. Ain't happenin'.). Now if Harrington plays well could we get a 1st rounder for him at the all-star break in a package? Maybe. But I think Donnie loves Al and I think when the time comes if there's room for another piece after a big FA signing & it's between Al and Lee, I have a funny feeling Donnie looks to bring Al back. As of right now though -- I'm pumped fellas. I actually think the Knicks assembled a pretty well-balanced team, all considered, and there will be much more stability and some nice depth for Mike to work with right from the start this year. I think they will be given every opportunity to gel. Obviously we're not where we need to be but I really don't think the 40-win plateau and the playoffs are completely out of the question for this club. No question going 1-8, 1-9 outta the gate would be rough but I just think they'll remain patient longer than what you might think...

[Edited by - finestrg on 10-01-2009 1:34 PM]

I think the guy you monitor closely is Chandler. His stats the first two years are almost identical to Danny Granger. If he shows anything like that kind of potential obviously you keep him around. He could just as easily be the next Desmond Mason. Athletic 2/3 guy that can give you some good #s but not skilled enough or a high enough BB IQ to make it to that next level.

If thats the case I would a package of Chandler along with Curry or JJ for an expiring and a lottery pick or couple first rounders would appeal to a lot of teams.

Posted by TheGame:

Posted by fishmike:

I think the guy you monitor closely is Chandler. His stats the first two years are almost identical to Danny Granger. If he shows anything like that kind of potential obviously you keep him around. He could just as easily be the next Desmond Mason. Athletic 2/3 guy that can give you some good #s but not skilled enough or a high enough BB IQ to make it to that next level.

If thats the case I would a package of Chandler along with Curry or JJ for an expiring and a lottery pick or couple first rounders would appeal to a lot of teams.

I would say Chandler is better than Desmond Mason right now but I agree with your point. Walsh and MDA have to evaluate everyone on this team and determine who they want to stay and who they want to get rid of. And, after they do that, they also have to evaluate who they think they can get this summer. The next 12 months will probably determine the direction of this team for the next 3-4 years. Walsh better make some good decisions.

he might be and I hope so, but I remember Mason coming out of Sea and he was on the bubble of becoming a bigtime player. He certainly had some very good years then kinda fizzled out.