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nixluva
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9/13/2009  10:28 AM
Knicks signed Sun Yue! Don't know much about him, but it sounds interesting. I'll have to look him up and get more bacground info.


By HOWARD BECK
Published: September 13, 2009
The Knicks, searching for more size in the backcourt, have signed Sun Yue, a 6-foot-9 point guard, to a partly guaranteed contract,
his agent, Charles Bonsignore, said. Sun spent last season as a reserve for the Los Angeles Lakers, who drafted him in the second
round in 2007.



[Edited by - nixluva on 09-13-2009 10:36 AM]
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9/13/2009  10:31 AM
big big signing for the knicks donnie building a playoff contender here
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9/13/2009  10:41 AM
He was highly touted coming out of China, he just never got a chance to play in LA, whether that's his fault or the team's I'm not sure. Interesting signing for sure either way.
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9/13/2009  10:43 AM
I found this scounting report:

Strengths
Yue is a very unique player in this draft, being a very long 6-9 international who shows legitimate point guard skills. Watching him move with the ball in his hands, its hard not to be impressed by the talent he shows. Strongly favoring his left hand, Yue is a remarkable dribbler with his good hand, while improvable with his bad one.

Already an excellent passer, he takes advantage of his size to see the entire floor thanks to his impressive court vision. Displaying solid athleticism, he slashes well to the hoop with a good first step, primarily looking to dish the ball or sometimes finish with an elegant finger roll. He plays under control and appears to have an excellent feel for the game, being highly unselfish, almost to a fault at times. The game looks very easy for him, particularly playing in the minor leagues. Defensively, he is capable of getting in the passing lanes, pulling down rebounds and even blocking some shots on occasion, being a true stat-stuffer for his team.

Weaknesses
Yue looks far from becoming an adequate shooter. He doesn’t show any reliability, delivering awful jumpers from time to time, and his mechanics don’t look particularly consistent, and he has a fairly slow release. He needs to develop more of an in-between game, particularly a pull-up jumper. He has a tendency to go left almost exclusively when driving to the basket.

The biggest problem for Yue is his position on the court. He’s probably not quick enough for a point guard and he doesn’t have the shooting touch that you look for in a wing. He picks up his dribble at times and suffers from intense pressure he occasionaly sees from smaller and quicker guards. He also needs to add some bulk to his skinny frame. Defensively, there are concerns about him whether he’s playing the point or small forward. He has a tendency to be a little too passive at times, passing up scoring opportunities and not being quite as dominant offensively in a league where he is always the most talented player on the floor.

Competition
Yue plays for a Chinese team that migrated to the American ABA, a semi-pro minor league that is now a shadow of what it used to be 20-30 years ago. He puts up excellent numbers in this competition. He has some experience internationally with the Chinese national team, but has been inconsistent playing with them.

Outlook
Even without the flaws he shows, Yue played in the American ABA and therefore has not been scouted extensively against top-level competition, which makes him difficult to evaluate as an NBA prospect. He would probably be best served pulling his name out of the draft, improving on his highly correctable weaknesses, and playing in a setting next year that would allow him better competition both as a challenge as well as a comparison for NBA types to use.

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9/13/2009  10:54 AM
a 6'7 guard hell say no more, he probably didnt get any burn because they didnt need help at guard, kobe! knicks though can use a body that tall that can drop j's. he will be a beast in ny.
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9/13/2009  10:56 AM
I found another one:

2007 Pre-Draft Scouting Report by Matthew Maurer

Assets
Has the size that the NBA covets at the point guard position … Ball handling ability is superb, uses a number of crossovers and between the leg dribbles to get separation from his defender … Unselfish player who has a pass first mentality … Owns above average court vision and has improved on controlling the tempo … Excels at creating scoring for his teammates off the drive and dish … Possesses three point range on his jump shot … For his height, has great mobility and leaping ability … Is an excellent finisher and can dunk with flair …Size creates mismatches as he can shoot over most guards …. Defensively he does a good job of using his long arms to disrupt passing lanes and block shots … Despite a tendency to be out of position, Yue makes a solid contribution rebounding the ball … Does a great job of pushing the ball up the court on the fast break …

Liabilities
Still lacks upper body strength which would benefit him greatly on both ends of the floor … Must continue to improve on his lateral quickness, quicker guards can give him trouble … At times he fails to protect the ball, especially when going for the spectacular play … Perimeter shooting has shown improvement but still remains a work in progress, particularly his shooting mechanics … Yue must improve on moving without the ball as he has a habit of standing around … Lacks the post moves to take full advantage of mismatches … Defers too much to his teammates and can be unselfish to a fault … Mid range game remains underutilized, either he drives or shoots the three, there is no in between jumper … Struggles to maintain his dribble when pressured by quick and aggressive defenders … It remains unclear what position he will play in the NBA; slow for the point guard position and lacks shooting ability for the two guard …
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9/13/2009  11:10 AM
It seems like Sun may have got stuck on the wrong team. How can you develop on a super loaded team like LA? Kobe seemed to like him:

"I want to show myself to the world," said Sun. "I tried to do my best and play my part on the court. For me, every second counts at the Olympics, so I want to take the chance to let people know me."

Sun played against his future teammate, Kobe Bryant, during China's opening round loss to the United States.

"I met Kobe and told him I'd like to play with him next season, he said 'OK', and 'see you in training camp'," Sun added.

The league's MVP appears to be impressed with his newest teammate as well.

"I think he's very talented, actually," said Bryant. "I was very impressed by him. I think he has great size, great length, good shooting touch, good ball handler, good vision, good pace.

"I was surprised at his size right off the top. He was able to handle the ball. I tried to test him a little bit, see if he could go left, go right, that sort of thing. So I like him."
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9/13/2009  11:13 AM
Posted by nixluva:

It seems like Sun may have got stuck on the wrong team. How can you develop on a super loaded team like LA? Kobe seemed to like him:

"I want to show myself to the world," said Sun. "I tried to do my best and play my part on the court. For me, every second counts at the Olympics, so I want to take the chance to let people know me."

Sun played against his future teammate, Kobe Bryant, during China's opening round loss to the United States.

"I met Kobe and told him I'd like to play with him next season, he said 'OK', and 'see you in training camp'," Sun added.

The league's MVP appears to be impressed with his newest teammate as well.

"I think he's very talented, actually," said Bryant. "I was very impressed by him. I think he has great size, great length, good shooting touch, good ball handler, good vision, good pace.

"I was surprised at his size right off the top. He was able to handle the ball. I tried to test him a little bit, see if he could go left, go right, that sort of thing. So I like him."

kobe! thats a good endorsement.
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9/13/2009  11:36 AM
Keep in mind that Kobe's endorsement could be overly generous to not offend chinese people. He is huge over there and it is in his best interest ($$$) not to make any waves by insulting a member of their national team. That said, I have never seen Sun play.
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9/13/2009  12:02 PM
Only heard about the kid in passing research, but he supposedly is a prospect. At least is shows Walsh is not sitting on his hands. I like the pick up of him and Pruitt. Get them into training camp and let's see what they can do.
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9/13/2009  12:08 PM
Posted by cuieee:

Keep in mind that Kobe's endorsement could be overly generous to not offend chinese people. He is huge over there and it is in his best interest ($$$) not to make any waves by insulting a member of their national team. That said, I have never seen Sun play.

he didn't exactly call him the second coming of Magic Johnson in that endorsement... maybe Kobe actually believed in what he was saying?
"I think he's very talented, actually," said Bryant. "I was very impressed by him. I think he has great size, great length, good shooting touch, good ball handler, good vision, good pace.

"I was surprised at his size right off the top. He was able to handle the ball. I tried to test him a little bit, see if he could go left, go right, that sort of thing. So I like him."

for me tho, i could care less... the mere fact that the Knicks signed an Asian dude is enough for me... i'm getting his jersey tomorrow.
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9/13/2009  12:16 PM
Posted by TMS:
Posted by cuieee:

Keep in mind that Kobe's endorsement could be overly generous to not offend chinese people. He is huge over there and it is in his best interest ($$$) not to make any waves by insulting a member of their national team. That said, I have never seen Sun play.

he didn't exactly call him the second coming of Magic Johnson in that endorsement... maybe Kobe actually believed in what he was saying?
"I think he's very talented, actually," said Bryant. "I was very impressed by him. I think he has great size, great length, good shooting touch, good ball handler, good vision, good pace.

"I was surprised at his size right off the top. He was able to handle the ball. I tried to test him a little bit, see if he could go left, go right, that sort of thing. So I like him."

for me tho, i could care less... the mere fact that the Knicks signed an Asian dude is enough for me... i'm getting his jersey tomorrow.

we'll look forward to your ragin' when he gets cut
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9/13/2009  12:29 PM
Posted by Marv:
Posted by TMS:
Posted by cuieee:

Keep in mind that Kobe's endorsement could be overly generous to not offend chinese people. He is huge over there and it is in his best interest ($$$) not to make any waves by insulting a member of their national team. That said, I have never seen Sun play.

he didn't exactly call him the second coming of Magic Johnson in that endorsement... maybe Kobe actually believed in what he was saying?
"I think he's very talented, actually," said Bryant. "I was very impressed by him. I think he has great size, great length, good shooting touch, good ball handler, good vision, good pace.

"I was surprised at his size right off the top. He was able to handle the ball. I tried to test him a little bit, see if he could go left, go right, that sort of thing. So I like him."

for me tho, i could care less... the mere fact that the Knicks signed an Asian dude is enough for me... i'm getting his jersey tomorrow.

we'll look forward to your ragin' when he gets cut

racist hatters!!!
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9/13/2009  4:43 PM
A couple of things, 1 the lakers picked him and I like their eye for talent. Even tho their picks are kind of matter if fact for them. 2 the guy has some intriguing talents. MDA could make good use of real point forward. PG skills in a 6-9 package. Seems like he's feast or famine, either 3pt'ers or slashing with not much mid range game. On this team that may not be a problem. 3. He could be real useful when we play Nate at the 2. We could let Nate bring it up to avoid Sun getting pestered by small quick guards, but then Sun could take over the PG duties half court to take advantage of his great court vision.

I'm hoping this is what MDA is thinking. Camp is already peaking my interest now.
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9/13/2009  5:20 PM
sounds an awful lot like Boris Diaw
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9/13/2009  5:37 PM
Posted by SupremeCommander:

sounds an awful lot like Boris Diaw

LOL....actually DraftExpress predicted his best case as Boris....Worst Case is Dermarr Johnson.

NBADraft.net says his closest comparison is Boris also.

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9/13/2009  5:47 PM
We couldn't get the Spanish Rubio so we just signed the Chinese one.
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9/13/2009  7:08 PM
Man you guys hit it right on the head. I was thinking along those lines. They say he's unselfish to a fault sometimes. That pass 1st mentality could be useful with so many shooters on the floor. We could use a gift pick right now. I hope he's a fit and just needed a chance.

JohnWallace was complaining about lack of a size advantage well how Sun look on the floor for a big lineup with skill?
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9/13/2009  11:34 PM
More fodder...I'm a little surprised at the fodder we've picked up though. And not pleasently surprised.
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