the 2009-10 knicks lineup will look like this:

PG: Duhon, Nate, Toney D
SG: Chandler, Hughes
SF: Harrington, The Rooster
PF: Lee, Jeffries
C: Hill, Darko, Curry

That is the 12-man roster. Nate and Lee, the two highest PERs on the Knicks last yr (both in the top 40), both have something to prove as unrestricted free agents. Lee will most likely improve upon 16/12 55% fg #'s. Duhon, who was steady for a while until he burned out, now has ample backup with Nate back and Douglas as 3rd string. Chandler as starting 2 could put up 18/8 and give the Knicks needed size and toughness. Harrington put up 20/gm last yr and Galinari apparently looks good wherever he is. He had his flashes last year at the very least. Out of Hill, Darko, and Curry, there will be some production at C. Plus, an entire training camp to play with each other.

It's really not that bad. With D'Antoni, I think the offense scores enough that this team contends for the 8 seed/playoff appearance down the stretch.

How much points this team will going to give up per game - 120+?

Posted by PresIke:

btw, i think it's fairly unlikely nate and lee take the qualifying offers...

what i hear is more likely 1 year re-ups at a higher wage.

not that this has bearing on the point of the thread.

Well it kinda does Ike since Donnie has said he was going to give them re-ups at a higher wage. I'm think 9-10 for Lee and 5-6 for Nate.

Posted by JonsTintedTails:

I predict 28 wins. Same team as last year. Not getting any better. 09 is a throw away year.

knicks won about 30 games last year.

curry may play all year.
so may danillo.
they added darko, hill and douglas.

if they bring back the same squad, you could make an argument they improved the roster from last season.

if that's the case, then they may challenge for 40 wins. there's not alot of difference between a 30 win team and 40-45 win team. most games come down to the final 2 minutes...if the knicks play games close and they make big shots, especially early in the season, confidence could start to soar and they could go on a run. so it's possible.

but it's also very possible that they don't and win 28 games.

Posted by BigSm00th:

the 2009-10 knicks lineup will look like this:

PG: Duhon, Nate, Toney D
SG: Chandler, Hughes
SF: Harrington, The Rooster
PF: Lee, Jeffries
C: Hill, Darko, Curry

That is the 12-man roster. Nate and Lee, the two highest PERs on the Knicks last yr (both in the top 40), both have something to prove as unrestricted free agents. Lee will most likely improve upon 16/12 55% fg #'s. Duhon, who was steady for a while until he burned out, now has ample backup with Nate back and Douglas as 3rd string. Chandler as starting 2 could put up 18/8 and give the Knicks needed size and toughness. Harrington put up 20/gm last yr and Galinari apparently looks good wherever he is. He had his flashes last year at the very least. Out of Hill, Darko, and Curry, there will be some production at C. Plus, an entire training camp to play with each other.

It's really not that bad. With D'Antoni, I think the offense scores enough that this team contends for the 8 seed/playoff appearance down the stretch.

Yeah that looks to be the main twelve. Looks like we're almost ready to go to war. For the remaining spots, instead of Morris Almond & Nikoloz Tskitishvili, I'd look to grab an overall more talented 2-guard prospect like Wesley Matthews or AD Vassallo and either Brandon Costner and/or Ben McCauley - 2 young bigs with nice talent - for the last two spots. Whether or not they eventually offer them a spot on the team is one thing, but there's no reason, based on our needs at the present time, that these guys shouldn't at least be invited to camp. I really like what I've seen out of all 4 of these players - good opportunity to add some nice depth and youth to the roster here.

Posted by djsunyc:

Posted by JonsTintedTails:

I predict 28 wins. Same team as last year. Not getting any better. 09 is a throw away year.

knicks won about 30 games last year.

curry may play all year.
so may danillo.
they added darko, hill and douglas.

if they bring back the same squad, you could make an argument they improved the roster from last season.

if that's the case, then they may challenge for 40 wins. there's not alot of difference between a 30 win team and 40-45 win team. most games come down to the final 2 minutes...if the knicks play games close and they make big shots, especially early in the season, confidence could start to soar and they could go on a run. so it's possible.

but it's also very possible that they don't and win 28 games.

that's basically how i look it. the roster changed pretty dramatically last year and there was a new system in place. they won 28 games.

this year, they have a lot more depth, they will be playing together the whole year. duhon, who burned out last year, should be rested a bit more with douglas involved. nate and lee will both be UFAs and playing with something to prove. gallinari is apparently healthy. hill, darko, and curry were added to the front court. i think all of that should lead to 10 more wins, which would put them into contention.

IMO Gallo is the key. He wasn't even healthy last year and when he played we were a .500 team going 14-14. He had an intangible impact on how we played and it was positive. Just imagine the impact he could have if healthy and a bit stronger and more confident this year? Next to him is Chandler. If this guy really starts to play like he's a dominant player. I mean play with a swagger and a nastiness that studs play with, he's gonna be huge for us. I don't think it's a stretch to see this team being more successful this year.

We have have the same core, plus more depth and size. I think being able to start the year with the same group and build on the small bit of chemistry they had should help too. I know they already feel they should be in the mix for a playoff spot this year and why not? What's gonna be the difference this year? Defense! I think we'll be able to hold our own on D better this year. We just need to get more real D inside so that we aren't broken down as much by having to help in the post and when a guard does get thru that we have some real shotblocking in there. This is something we haven't had at all, but we may get some improvement in the area of shotblocking and intimidation.

Posted by BigSm00th:

the 2009-10 knicks lineup will look like this:

PG: Duhon, Nate, Toney D
SG: Chandler, Hughes
SF: Harrington, The Rooster
PF: Lee, Jeffries
C: Hill, Darko, Curry

That is the 12-man roster. Nate and Lee, the two highest PERs on the Knicks last yr (both in the top 40), both have something to prove as unrestricted free agents. Lee will most likely improve upon 16/12 55% fg #'s. Duhon, who was steady for a while until he burned out, now has ample backup with Nate back and Douglas as 3rd string. Chandler as starting 2 could put up 18/8 and give the Knicks needed size and toughness. Harrington put up 20/gm last yr and Galinari apparently looks good wherever he is. He had his flashes last year at the very least. Out of Hill, Darko, and Curry, there will be some production at C. Plus, an entire training camp to play with each other.

It's really not that bad. With D'Antoni, I think the offense scores enough that this team contends for the 8 seed/playoff appearance down the stretch.

if ur figuring on Chandler to put up 18 ppg & Harrington to put up the 20 ppg he did last year, as well as factoring in Nate who will wanna get off his points obviously & all the rest of these guys, i don't think there's any way D Lee will improve on his 16 ppg by all that much... something's gotta give in that whole scenario... everyone can't go up in production, the Knicks' scoring was actually pretty up there last year in rankings, no?

IMO, The Knicks will be a bit better than last year, which means if everything breaks right they could...could sneak in as a 8 seed.

Posted by arkrud:

How much points this team will going to give up per game - 120+?

Last year we allowed 107 pts. You think this team is defensively worse than last years? The additions of Toney Douglas, Jordan Hill and Darko Milicic as well as the health of Jared Jeffries should allow this year's team to be better defensively-- on paper.

Posted by MS:

It really is too bad we have Curry. Because it would be nice to have Hill get as much time as possible us suck and have a draft pick. But we just can't play the kid that much because we have to have Eddy really up his value.

Someone will take a flyer on Curry if he gets going.

I don't know if MDA is willingly to flat out play Curry just to up his value. Curry would have to be in shape, ready to go and contribute the way MDA would want him to in order to give him PT. If Jordan Hill outplays Curry in practice and in game situations then Hill will get burn over Curry.