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What players are part of the Knicks future plans?
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BigC
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8/3/2009  10:13 PM
Right now I really don't feel that there are any players beside Gallo that the Knicks will have around in 2 to 4 years. We all know that Donnie tried to traded Chandler on draft night. Who do you see sticking around for the future of this team?

[Edited by - BigC on 08-03-2009 10:14 PM]
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8/3/2009  10:39 PM
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8/3/2009  10:47 PM
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8/3/2009  10:48 PM
Right now we don't have an all-star or a super star on the roster. Any one is tradable.
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8/3/2009  10:56 PM
Posted by martin:

Right now we don't have an all-star or a super star on the roster. Any one is tradable.
I agree big time. Especially if the Knicks have 2 more bad seasons. The bottom lines is, if we can't sign players then we are going to have to trade for players that this team wants. Even the new rookies have to watch out because you know Dolan probably has 3 year time table before he wants to see progress.

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8/3/2009  11:13 PM
Nobody's untouchable. Gallo is the closest to one and you can see Mike believes he has star potential, but only a solid injury free year could confirm that, so we'll see...
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8/3/2009  11:14 PM
Posted by martin:

Right now we don't have an all-star or a super star on the roster. Any one is tradable.

Please not Gallo. We just drafted him last year. He is untouchable.
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8/3/2009  11:20 PM
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8/3/2009  11:22 PM
Wait, I thought The Mayor was a franchise player?
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8/3/2009  11:25 PM
Thing is, this team now more than ever, has players that could develop into future starters. Quite a bunch of guys can become major players on the future playoff Knicks squad. I am not Nostradamus and i can't say who it will be but: Gallo could obviously, Chandler as well, the 2 new pickups Douglas and Hill could potentially develop into very special guys for us, Harrington could as well if he only develops better passing/looking for teammates and takes a much smaller $ deal , David Lee can be a part of our future team as well(i don't really want him here unless he can learn not to get his shot blocked like almost every time and show at least something on d AAAND realize that so far he is a glorified backup). So thats:(and they are all question marks to some degree)Gallo, Chandler, Al "I'll be more of a sharington next season", Douglas, Hill and Lee. The first 2 can definately start, while the last 4 need to really change some of their ways and/or develop their game.
The one player that bugs the crap out of me is N8 "the not so Gr8". I mean this guy could be a starter on a team coached by MDA. We desperetely need a SG and he could provide that. The dude could be our best scorer. He is like AI on steroids but with half the brain(and thats not much brain to begin with). So while we don't have any definate untouchable guys, we do have quite a few players that can be a huge part of our future. I guess we'll just have to see who can grow and develop as people and as players and who can't.

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8/3/2009  11:48 PM
However you want to look at our situation & this current group of players, we're gonna need to come up with the big star here sooner or later to add to the mix. It's unavoidable and Donnie knows it - that's why he's shied away from bringing back talent and adding talent up to this point. It would just be too much of a cap hit for us to take right now and unfortunately, building a team in the NBA is mostly a money game... He doesn't want anything to jeopordize his plan which revolves around adding that big player or two down the line and I respect that. Gotta face facts, we aren't going anywhere until we add that big centerpiece. For the time being, that seems to be the top priority and I agree that it should be. A priority that always needs to be keep in perspective. That one piece is gonna make all the difference. In the meantime though, we've managed to amass a few decent players here - solid young rotation players like Gallo, Chandler, Hill, Douglas, maybe Darko if we see some improvement, Lee and/or Nate if we can find a way to keep them in the fold, Sessions if we can get him, etc.. That potential nucleus is (or would be) just as good if not better than what 'Bron currently has to work with in Cleveland. Difference is the Cavs have a LeBron James and we don't. Simple as that. If we can add the star to that core, we're suddenly talking 55/60-win plateau ourselves. And I do feel adding Sessions is worth cutting into Walsh's master plan a little bit btw. He looks like he's gonna be a steady, skilled playmaker for a long time. I like him. He'd work out well here. I hope we can get him.

Walsh knows exactly what's in front of him. Like most of us, I'd love to open up the paper tomorrow and see that he went out and made a bigtime move but I realize he's being patient for a reason and I acknowledge and support his patience. I think we're OK. Outside of adding Sessions which I think is completely worth it even if Walsh has to do a little recalculating, I kinda like where we are at the moment. I know what time it is. It's not gonna happen overnight - the man's done an endless amount of restructuring & juggling to get us to this point and there's much more to follow I'm sure.

Having said that, I think we could still add a better option or two at the off-guard spot. Hughes isn't an option after this year, Chandler might never be a consistent enough perimeter threat for MDA's liking at that position and I don't think Morris Almond is the answer either (I'm glad they brought him in for a look although I feel they should've known a little more about his limitations coming in, much more than me or the average Knick fan that only read about him & hadn't seen him play before, because he has quite a few - to tell the truth, I actually think Joe Crawford's a better all-around shooting guard talent than Almond after what I saw this summer). The 2-spot is definitely an area of weakness right now moving forward imo. Hopefully we can come up with a cost-effective upgrade somewhere before training camp opens. I'll say it again - AD Vassallo and KC Rivers, 2 above-average college shooters that went undrafted, are two guys off the top of my head that I think are flat out better players than Morris Almond. If they don't wind up getting commitments elsewhere, they should be options for us. I'd go out and invite both guys to training camp in a heartbeat if they became available. Toronto, a division rival that suddenly improved tenfold, just went out and got a very good shooting guard prospect with a ton of potential, Marco Belinelli, for next to nothing. That concerns me. I'd love to see us pull off something similar. If we can add Sessions and come up with a quality longterm shooting guard on the cheap I think we're well on our way. There would suddenly be quite a few solid components in place..

[Edited by - finestrg on 08-04-2009 01:03 AM]
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8/4/2009  12:16 AM
over the last 6 weeks of the season, chandler avg. 17 pts 7 reb 1blk 1 stl in 36 minutes per. he played all 82 games last year and avg. 14/6 in 33 minutes per.

he will be 22 for all of next season. i think 20/8 /1.5/1.5 is in the conversation, which would be impressive for a 22 year old. hopefully he can redeem walsh for not dealing him on draft night to get rubio at 5.

gallo can hopefully at least knock down open 3s. if sessions was the starting point i think he'd avg. at least 9 assists per.

all those guys are young and cheap.
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8/4/2009  5:06 AM
Gallo, Chandler, Douglas and Sessions.
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8/4/2009  7:52 AM
This is just a statement at how pathetic our roster really is. There are barely 4-5 guys that you can say without being under the influence of kool aid that are part of the long term plans - and they are all basically rookies.

Think about some of the other really bad teams, and I think for the most part, you can look at some core guys on those rosters that didn't just get drafted and are unknowns.

And also, the only team that missed the play offs that has a higher salary than us right now is the Wizards - and they are one healthy season of Arenas away from being back in the thick of things (but I doubt it).

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8/4/2009  8:31 AM
Gallo and Hill are the only two players with a lock on being here beyond next season. I think MDA and Walsh also like Chandler, who is a solid two-way player with potential. Douglas showed that he has the discipline to be a pg in this league. Walsh and MDA will give him a couple of years to develop (if his offense comes around, he will be a solid pg and might even turn into a starting caliber player but that is a long way off). That is pretty much it. MDA likes Nate's offense but does not like his crappy pg skills. MDA likes Lee's rebounding, but does not like his piss-poor defense and only average passing skills. Guys like Harrington and Jeffries could stick around in a specific role. As you can see, we don't have much longterm.

Ideally, we should trade Nate and Jeffries for an expiring. Trade Curry for an expiring. And sign and trade Lee for a 1st round draft pick and young prospect. We go into next summer and try to come out with no less than Amare and Joe Johnson. A team of hopefully Sessions, Joe Johnson, Chandler, Amare, and Darko, with Gallo, Hill, and Douglas on the bench, will be fairly competitive. I don't see us getting LeBron or Wade. Bosh might be an option, but I really think he is going to Miami to play with Wade.
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