Posted by Cosmic:

Not even close. Oden is a hack but Durant doesn't fill a need for them and isn't yet a superstar that can carry a team anyway.

The better Blazer question is - would they have won a title - if Stern didn't want Kobe-Shaq to win so badly that he bent over Sabonis and the Blazers and then Webber and the Kings so badly practically forcing Kobe-Shaq to threepeat?

Then, now, I will ramble a bit. Had Stern not wanted Wade-Shaq to win so badly would the Mavs had been bent over and molested so badly by the refs from the 4thQ of game 3 through the end of game 6?

And now I muse, who will get anally raped this season by LeBron-Shaq-Referees en route to their "title"?

This league is so f'in corrupt it's pathetic. Thanks for reminding me, Cook.

Im the last person that is going to argue the Stern-Laker relationship, but that said the Blazers have nobody to blame for their epic 4th quarter collapse, but themselves.

Posted by sebstar:

Posted by Cosmic:

Not even close. Oden is a hack but Durant doesn't fill a need for them and isn't yet a superstar that can carry a team anyway.

The better Blazer question is - would they have won a title - if Stern didn't want Kobe-Shaq to win so badly that he bent over Sabonis and the Blazers and then Webber and the Kings so badly practically forcing Kobe-Shaq to threepeat?

Then, now, I will ramble a bit. Had Stern not wanted Wade-Shaq to win so badly would the Mavs had been bent over and molested so badly by the refs from the 4thQ of game 3 through the end of game 6?

And now I muse, who will get anally raped this season by LeBron-Shaq-Referees en route to their "title"?

This league is so f'in corrupt it's pathetic. Thanks for reminding me, Cook.

Im the last person that is going to argue the Stern-Laker relationship, but that said the Blazers have nobody to blame for their epic 4th quarter collapse, but themselves.

Sabonis gets down the court. Sets up defensively. Doesn't move. Shaq ass-rams him out of view into the 12th row of the stands, turns, scores a jump hook, and is given a FT for his troubles while Sabonis collects fouls he didn't deserve.

Yeah, sorry, but that Blazer team was stacked and was rolling until the Stern Ref Machine took them out. They did the same thing to the Kings. They did the same thing to Dirk's Mavs' years later.

This isn't conspiracy theory....this is right there in plain sight to be seen.

This is the WWNBA.

After the uproar that 90% of the world threw over the Mavs getting clearly screwed - Stern has stepped down his "let me shape this product into exactly what I want" campaign. It doesn't absolve him of the past disasters however.

Portland got HOSED just how the Kings got HOSED.

Lakers should have had 1 title, Kings 1, Portland 1. Not Lakers 3.

Posted by Cosmic:

Posted by McK1:

Posted by Cosmic:

Not even close. Oden is a hack but Durant doesn't fill a need for them and isn't yet a superstar that can carry a team anyway.

they offered Hedo 5 yrs 50 mil to play sf but Durant doesn't fill a need?

Hedo didn't either.... adding either player means you need to make a trade or face a logjam and in both cases I think we call that a side step move.

Hedo would've spread the floor for Roy. Durant would've made Portland unguardable on the perimeter.

the logjam behind them at the 2/3 would've worke itself out.

Posted by Cosmic:

Posted by sebstar:

haha. well, whatever the case the Blazers wont have to worry about what if, now will they?

Nah, they won't.

But seriously, why do people muse that if you add let's just say a 20/10 player to a team that they will automatically average 20pts and 10rebs more per game?

Why do some people refuse to understand that that is not a logical point of view?

You add a big time scorer to a team that was led by a big time scorer and people seem to want to assume that team will suddenly shatter NBA records and nobody can stop them. They never take into account the fact that one of those two big time scorers will stop being a big time scorer - where one freezes the other out entirely - and that if you're lucky, they'll split the scoring duties - which has both dropping from big time scorers to average scorers making a nice big time scoring duo. That is so rare players are able to do that.

Yet, I guess we live in the video game age. If the Knicks signed LeBron and his 28ppg without giving anyone up the Knicks would go from 105ppg to 133ppg!

Yep, nobody on the Knicks would see their scoring tank. LeBron wouldn't be giving up any PPG either. We'd just be setting scoring records never seen before!

...........why people think this way I never know.

So, yes, given this little example, adding a Hedo or Durant to the Blazers doesn't ensure them of rising to elite status. You don't mash two big time scorers together without having a problem.

Sorry...try again.

Posted by Cosmic:

McK1 I just disagree. Not saying I'm right but I just see conflict not cohesion there.

Posted by MS:

Durant is already a top 10 player in this league. Green and Westbrook are nice talents but no one is doubling those guys right now. Kobe is a nice player but still takes the game on his shoulder way to much. I think they would have beat the lakers if they played them.

Roy is that good, they just don't have anyone else on offense that can really play outside of aldridge. They actually had the size to slow the lakers down

Top 10? That's a pretty bold statement. Quite incorrect at that. Let us expand that to oh, say, top 30 maybe? Even then I'm not so sure. A gunner on a garbage team doesn't do much for me.

Oh, and, the Lakers were the NBA Champs. Nobody beat them. Not even a fictitious Blazer roster.