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12/7/2003  2:14 PM
Im sorry, I cant take this anymore.

Let me ask you guys a question, when is the last time we had a healthy team?

When? Back to the days of Ewing, I cant remember a healthy team ever stepping on to that court. They're have been COUNTLESS injuries, too many to post here and each and everytime I think about them one name comes to mind and one name only: Norman Scott.

When is the last time one of this man's patients walked out of that operating room happy.

The man is a horrible doctor and I want him fired. Maybe then, for once, I can finally see a healthy Knick team take the court!
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12/7/2003  2:36 PM
i am really mad that moneybags Alan Hou$tan is missing so many games this season. He used to never miss games.
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12/7/2003  3:13 PM
It's not the doctors fault he has to deal with McDyess. I blame Layden and Chaney for doing this to our team. A healthy knick team may have some talent but they are definately going to lose under Chaney.

Can we please get to .500 this year!!
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12/7/2003  3:29 PM
As far as Houston goes--- imho his tweaked back and knee have come as a result of him playing big minutes early before he was fully recovered. He probably hurt his back as a result of favoring his knee...
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12/7/2003  9:04 PM
The operation done by the KNicks was botched from the get go. Just look at NVE he had his Knee scoped and is back and running around in 14 days. The problem here is that he Knicks who have poor history with dealing with Knee injuries played it to safe with H20. They put him in a cast and then they put him on crutches for 3-4 months. All this did was make his leg weak. After the first month he should have been out there with a trainer and lifting weights and getting his leg back to it normal strength or stronger. Instead they played it to safe and as a result H20 went into the preseason with a weak knee the muscles around the knee had been wasted due to lack of use. Because he plays favoring his knee that resulted in poor posture which affected his back causing spasms.
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12/7/2003  9:36 PM
Posted by Vmart:

The operation done by the KNicks was botched from the get go.

Huh? So, tell us your inside source on this. Otherwise, it's all speculation.
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12/7/2003  10:51 PM
so its not only dolan, layden, chaney. now its the damn Doctor too Jeez, I gonna give up on this team and come back in 10yrs.
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12/7/2003  11:22 PM
Houston had arthroscopic surgery on his right knee June 10 and missed most of the preseason. He said after last night's 104-92 loss in Golden State that he could miss the rest of the trip to allow the knee to heal.

Houston said it's been sore all season but "not to this extent." He warmed up with the team beforehand but decided not to play 10 minutes before tip-off because, "I couldn't push off on it."

Martin, it doesn't take a knee surgeon to know that the reason for the operation was to rid H20 of the pain. So far he is still in pain and quite frankly he looks worse now than he did last year before the operation. He is going to have an MRI again and if they have to open him up again than the truth will comeout.

I have had cartlege removed through an athroscopic prcedure and it took 3 weeks for the pain to go away, I rushed and went for a jog only to have it swell up with fluid. Went back to the doctor prescribed physical therapy, he said that the fluid build up was due to the muscles become weak from lack of use. Within a month I went regualarly to a physical therapist for another 3 weeks. I try to run everyday and so far I haven't experienced pain even when I play basketball and Tennis. My knee use to swell up like balloon had it drained numerous time before the sugery to remove the loose cartlege.
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12/7/2003  11:57 PM
Posted by Vmart:

Houston had arthroscopic surgery on his right knee June 10 and missed most of the preseason. He said after last night's 104-92 loss in Golden State that he could miss the rest of the trip to allow the knee to heal.

Houston said it's been sore all season but "not to this extent." He warmed up with the team beforehand but decided not to play 10 minutes before tip-off because, "I couldn't push off on it."

Martin, it doesn't take a knee surgeon to know that the reason for the operation was to rid H20 of the pain. So far he is still in pain and quite frankly he looks worse now than he did last year before the operation. He is going to have an MRI again and if they have to open him up again than the truth will comeout.

I have had cartlege removed through an athroscopic prcedure and it took 3 weeks for the pain to go away, I rushed and went for a jog only to have it swell up with fluid. Went back to the doctor prescribed physical therapy, he said that the fluid build up was due to the muscles become weak from lack of use. Within a month I went regualarly to a physical therapist for another 3 weeks. I try to run everyday and so far I haven't experienced pain even when I play basketball and Tennis. My knee use to swell up like balloon had it drained numerous time before the sugery to remove the loose cartlege.

so how is this Norman's fault? The person who is most responsible for a player's return schedule is the athlete. It's also the athlete's responsibility to get a second and third doctor's opinion and to pick the doc who does the surgery.
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12/8/2003  12:11 AM
Posted by martin:
Posted by Vmart:

Houston had arthroscopic surgery on his right knee June 10 and missed most of the preseason. He said after last night's 104-92 loss in Golden State that he could miss the rest of the trip to allow the knee to heal.

Houston said it's been sore all season but "not to this extent." He warmed up with the team beforehand but decided not to play 10 minutes before tip-off because, "I couldn't push off on it."

Martin, it doesn't take a knee surgeon to know that the reason for the operation was to rid H20 of the pain. So far he is still in pain and quite frankly he looks worse now than he did last year before the operation. He is going to have an MRI again and if they have to open him up again than the truth will comeout.

I have had cartlege removed through an athroscopic prcedure and it took 3 weeks for the pain to go away, I rushed and went for a jog only to have it swell up with fluid. Went back to the doctor prescribed physical therapy, he said that the fluid build up was due to the muscles become weak from lack of use. Within a month I went regualarly to a physical therapist for another 3 weeks. I try to run everyday and so far I haven't experienced pain even when I play basketball and Tennis. My knee use to swell up like balloon had it drained numerous time before the sugery to remove the loose cartlege.

so how is this Norman's fault? The person who is most responsible for a player's return schedule is the athlete. It's also the athlete's responsibility to get a second and third doctor's opinion and to pick the doc who does the surgery.

also, Houston is no young stud anymore... something like 31, right? It takes more time than he has ever had to deal with. Maybe he rushed the rehab, and maybe he did it against trainers and doctors orders. Or maybe he felt the pressure of his coaches and owners and his own contract.

Point is, we just don't know.
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12/8/2003  9:12 AM


What about the water boy? When do you bitches start complaining about the size of the cups. Or, do they use fabric softener in the towels??

Knicks never healthy? Do you whinin bitches ever look around and see many teams have injury problems? Or is your little world just limited to the Knicks?

The owner may be an idiot, but at least he is willing to spend on his squad. Most of the teams in the league want to just turn a profit. MOst teams in the east are profit concious.

This team is always about the moment, hopefully we maintain to stock pile youth assets and not panic trade them. We have not done this for a long time.

Only when expectations get inhanced does disappointment settle in. You whining bitches are real soft, but do what you must and come back in a year or two and hopefully our roster is in tact. Luxury tax may be the best thing that ever happend to this team. It will force it to make roster building differently than before. It takes a few years, the team you see is bullsh@t, and those whom tune in are getting sucked in by a marketing scheme to generate interest.

The Rebuilding effort (Stealth) is what excites me. The rookies need to run, but in reality they are not ready. the tough thing is finding minutes for them. I'll wait, but I am truly holding to my guns here: none of my money to Dolan until a real team is put together. Keep the picks, keep Vujanic and I will be back. I don't care about the record, or what this team does. I don't care if Dice resigns. Let him, KT, Ward.....let them walk. Thats 25 mil in cap. Let the rooks run. Let Dice go to winner. INsurance paid 80% of his salary any way. Dolan whats to burn money, thats fine.

And the yankees are getting pathetic anyway. The team was great because core Jeter-bernie-posada-petit-mariano-soriano was bought up from minors. Now George is signing free agents. loses his draft picks, and trades away his farm studs for players. George is smarter with his money, but not willing to even forgo a single season to be concerned with the future. So what if A-rod hits the sox, the Yanks and Sox have lost their souls!

Knicks should build in the draft.
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12/8/2003  11:32 AM
Posted by Nedyal1:

Knicks should build in the draft.
Should have just said this
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12/8/2003  11:55 AM
Posted by Nedyal1:


What about the water boy? When do you bitches start complaining about the size of the cups. Or, do they use fabric softener in the towels??

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12/9/2003  1:28 PM
Dyess' knee was an issue for awhile. Allan Houston's knee is something new.

It's not considered whining when the basis of the complaints are actually the case. Facts.

Who's the doctor in charge at the Knicks? Dr. Norman Scott.

Why is it always something wrong post-op? There is a pattern.
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12/9/2003  6:19 PM
we got to get this dood outta here before he ruins any more players' careers. it is well known around the league he's incompetent.
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