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BRIGGS
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7/16/2009  11:43 PM
Wow you think that Gallo is going to play 82 games and average close to 20 points and give 6 rebounds and 5 assits after not playing 35 minutes in one NBA game ever? Did Dolan hook you up with a nice mid-summer bonus?

God I hope the best for any Knick but why dont we try to temper expectations. Lets start with him making it through one NBA game without having to sit in a contorted position on the sidelines and work from there! Then we can talk 30 minutes and maybe half way through the season we can talk numbers.


[Edited by - BRIGGS on 07-16-2009 11:45 PM]
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7/17/2009  12:16 AM
Hahn definitely is idealistic whenever he talks about Gallo. I am always surprised because he seems to be the beat writer who gets it. I think 10 4 and 4 is reasonable with a high end being 12, 4 and 4. Gallo is essentially a rookie and for all of the praise I saw alot wrong with his game last year and nothing to suggest that he is going to be able to do what Hahn is suggesting in his second season. I would be ecstatic if Gallo comes close to those numbers but why Hahn is suggesting he will next year doesn't make sense.
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7/17/2009  1:15 AM
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7/17/2009  1:19 AM
Why doesn't it make sense. He is making an assumption like everyone else. Unless you have a crystal ball then his or your predictions are all the same. Nobody knows.
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7/17/2009  1:58 AM
Posted by BRIGGS:

Wow you think that Gallo is going to play 82 games and average close to 20 points and give 6 rebounds and 5 assists
[Edited by - BRIGGS on 07-16-2009 11:45 PM]

Hahn actually said 17 points, which is "close to 15," if you use the standard rounding off procedure that I remember from my youth.

Hahn has a fancrush on Gallo, so you have to take his pronouncements about him with a grain of salt.

Hard to take anyone seriously when they have a fancrush on an athlete, right?

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7/17/2009  2:00 AM
This strikes me as more feasible than Eddy Curry's 24 and 8
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7/17/2009  7:23 AM
Didja' ever notice in every Newsday article about the Knicks it mentions Cablevision and it is always phrased like this..."...the Knicks who are owned by Cablevision(who also owns Newsday).....
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7/17/2009  7:38 AM
Posted by Paladin55:
Posted by BRIGGS:

Wow you think that Gallo is going to play 82 games and average close to 20 points and give 6 rebounds and 5 assists
[Edited by - BRIGGS on 07-16-2009 11:45 PM]

Hahn actually said 17 points, which is "close to 15," if you use the standard rounding off procedure that I remember from my youth.

Hahn has a fancrush on Gallo, so you have to take his pronouncements about him with a grain of salt.

Hard to take anyone seriously when they have a fancrush on an athlete, right?

Only a certain controversial poster can do that and get away with it. Hahn doesn't have enough experience or rank to do so. And we are talking about the Knicks, we know projections for them have to be 1/3 of what you think, while in case of players on other teams, their bodies even grow in height and weight just because of that certain poster.
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7/17/2009  8:52 AM
I think Hahn is right on the $$$ w/ Gallo.

I think he'll be, by far, our best player.
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7/17/2009  8:58 AM
The guy never averaged more than 1 assist in a year since he turned pro in 2005--the most he has averaged was 1 in ANY league. He's not a 5 assist guy--it's pure fantasy. Lets see Gallo play a healthy game for 35 minutes without sitting on the Knicks bench in a contorted ball. If someone wants to say hes going to play 25 minutes and avg 12 points 5 rebounds and 1 assist--I think that may be more realistic
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7/17/2009  9:09 AM
Posted by BRIGGS:

The guy never averaged more than 1 assist in a year since he turned pro in 2005--the most he has averaged was 1 in ANY league. He's not a 5 assist guy--it's pure fantasy. Lets see Gallo play a healthy game for 35 minutes without sitting on the Knicks bench in a contorted ball. If someone wants to say hes going to play 25 minutes and avg 12 points 5 rebounds and 1 assist--I think that may be more realistic

i could see Gallo averaging 13ppg 4rpg 4apg... i could also see him missing the majority of the year with his back problem. nothing would surprise me. i do think if he gets healthy he will be good, but i have little hope of him having an injury free year.
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7/17/2009  9:15 AM
i want to see him show a complete game, inside and out. utilize his height to get the outside shot off but also drive for mid-range shots, lay-ups and dishes.

i really want gallo, chandler and hill asserting their size inside and getting to the line.

screw the off-season. let’s start play already.
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7/17/2009  9:17 AM
Posted by Marv:

i want to see him show a complete game, inside and out. utilize his height to get the outside shot off but also drive for mid-range shots, lay-ups and dishes.

i really want gallo, chandler and hill asserting their size inside and getting to the line.

screw the off-season. let’s start play already.

don't know how they'll play but one nice thing is if they CAN play together: Hill, Gallo and Chandler have GREAT size. for the first time in a while, we MIGHT have skilled players who have prototypical size for their positions. Gallo has size that can create serious matchup problems... if he's healthy.
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7/17/2009  9:28 AM
Posted by crzymdups:
Posted by Marv:

i want to see him show a complete game, inside and out. utilize his height to get the outside shot off but also drive for mid-range shots, lay-ups and dishes.

i really want gallo, chandler and hill asserting their size inside and getting to the line.

screw the off-season. let’s start play already.

don't know how they'll play but one nice thing is if they CAN play together: Hill, Gallo and Chandler have GREAT size. for the first time in a while, we MIGHT have skilled players who have prototypical size for their positions. Gallo has size that can create serious matchup problems... if he's healthy.

yeah put those 3 out there with mr. 10.5:1 ( ) and a rejuvenated darko or eddy ( ) and let's roll!!
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7/17/2009  9:44 AM
Posted by crzymdups:
Posted by Marv:

i want to see him show a complete game, inside and out. utilize his height to get the outside shot off but also drive for mid-range shots, lay-ups and dishes.

i really want gallo, chandler and hill asserting their size inside and getting to the line.

screw the off-season. let’s start play already.

don't know how they'll play but one nice thing is if they CAN play together: Hill, Gallo and Chandler have GREAT size. for the first time in a while, we MIGHT have skilled players who have prototypical size for their positions. Gallo has size that can create serious matchup problems... if he's healthy.

Fully agree with ya Crzy. I can't wait to see those 3 out on the court together. I know it sounds insane, but I really think Darko is going to end up being a good fit here and if that's the case, we have some serious size with Gallo at the 3, Hill at the 4 and Darko at the 5.
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7/17/2009  9:47 AM
Posted by BRIGGS:

The guy never averaged more than 1 assist in a year since he turned pro in 2005--the most he has averaged was 1 in ANY league. He's not a 5 assist guy--it's pure fantasy. Lets see Gallo play a healthy game for 35 minutes without sitting on the Knicks bench in a contorted ball. If someone wants to say hes going to play 25 minutes and avg 12 points 5 rebounds and 1 assist--I think that may be more realistic
your king.. the absolute king of hyping up some guys skills and projecting them across an NBA season and career. What did BJ Mullens do in college that indicated he could be a bigtime NBA scorer? Nothing but you said he could be.

Gallo is a proven scorer from anywhere on the floor. He's got a PG type handle and is an excellent passer in a system where there are lots of shots and guys share the ball. He's going to be a featured facilitator on a team with a lot of scorers. He's going to get assists by default.

He's young. His surgery was a success. He's not Anthony Randolph, but he's not Rodney White either. Why dont you watch instead of reacting to every piece of internet fodder that comes over the airwaves?
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7/17/2009  9:51 AM
Posted by Marv:

i want to see him show a complete game, inside and out. utilize his height to get the outside shot off but also drive for mid-range shots, lay-ups and dishes.

i really want gallo, chandler and hill asserting their size inside and getting to the line.

screw the off-season. let’s start play already.
This is the big thing. He would was pretty creative going to the basket in Europe, and picked up a decent amount of fouls. Guys are going to be looking for his jumper this year and playing him tighter- he is going to have to use that to his advantage.

Hahn's numbers are a bit too much, and he will not be able to get that many assists unless he is handling the ball as much as Hedu- which I don't think will happen this year.

25-30 MPG 14-16 PPG / 4-6 RPG / 2-4 APG / .5-1 SPG / 40% from 3pt / 90% FT%

Subject to change based on his back, who we have on the team, and how MDA manages his rotation. Hughes, Harrington, and Nate can put up a lot of shots and take up a lot of time with the ball.

The other issue with Gallinari is leadership. If Gallinari plays well and is given more time by MDA, how will certain players respond? Based on everything I've read, he has leadership qualities and knows the game better than many older players, but you have to be accepted by your teammates as a leader. How will guys who have been in the league for years, like Hughes, Nate, Lee, Darko, or Harrington react to Gallinari pointing out to them where they were supposed to be on D or in the offensive flow on a particular play? MDA has to play a role in all of this also- and it will be interesting to see how he deals with minutes if Gallinari's back is completely healed and he is physically able to play 30+ MPG.

MDA has lot of interior decorating decisions to do make with his lineup this year- should be interesting to see how things evolve.
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7/17/2009  9:53 AM
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Didja' ever notice in every Newsday article about the Knicks it mentions Cablevision and it is always phrased like this..."...the Knicks who are owned by Cablevision(who also owns Newsday).....

Yeah thats good journalistic practice... it gives full disclosure, so you don't assume the writer is hiding something to protect the ownership. Any perceived conflict of interest is better to get on the table that to be perceived as trying to hide from it and therefore lose credibility.
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7/17/2009  11:16 AM
I guess I don't understand the outrage. Hahn has admitted he has a man crush on Gallo and is given his prediction. His prediction isn't anymore wrong than anyone else's on this site. I'm pretty sure many people were walking around going "Olowakandi is going to average 157 and 10 rookie year, book it." While others were saying "Dirk Nowatski? Bust". Who cares? They are just predictions. Why would Hahn's prediction bother anyone?

Nobody has any idea what the guy will be. We've heard great things from those who've seen him in Europe. We've heard raves from D'Antoni and Walsh and Hahn and others that have seen him workout(obviously they are all lying to us, he really can't be good). And then we have our own eyes. Most of us have never seen him play while he was healthy. We have little idea of what we really have. Add on top of that, we don't know if he is even going to be healthy. So in all honesty, all predictions here are a load of crizzap. They are all guesses.

So why the outrage over Hahns?
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7/17/2009  11:20 AM
No, maybe 20/6/4 is too much, but it is not far off, I think. Or, better put, it is not far from what Gallo can realistically be expected to achieve next season under the correct conditions.

If all else is well, such as his role and his health, Gallo, I feel, is definitely capable of putting up 16/5/4 next season. He is a natural born killer, a leader-- his 90% FT% attests to this; at 19 years of age, an alien in a foreign land, at the biggest stage (if only as an arena) of basketball in the world, Gallo shot 90% free-throws. He has nerves of ice.
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