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Strengths: Excellent athlete who has great mobility and quickness Above average rebounder who hustles to get rebounds out of his position Possesses above average shot blocking ability Has great timing and uses his leaping ability to disrupt shots Lateral movement enables him to be a solid help defender Active player who constantly works to get open Runs the court extremely well for his size This mobility gives him a real presence on fast breaks Has evolving perimeter shooting skills as he shows range out to 16 feet ... Ball handling ability is solid enough to help him escape double teams Does a good job of drawing his man away from the basket where he loves to shoot the baseline jumper Creates mismatches with his shooting ability and athleticism Good finisher around the basket A late bloomer. Despite being a senior, Carter still has a good deal of potential left

Weaknesses: Ball handling ability is still raw. Although he is comfortable dribbling, he hasnt shown the ability to take opposing defenders and drive to the basket Still goes through periods of inconsistency, but to his credit this is to be expected when one considers his actual game experience Position wise he doesnt have a prototypical power forwards body and lacks small forward skills ... Needs to improve on his upper body strength and will need to bulk up and add 20 pounds.

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7/16/2009  7:41 AM
Carter wasn't much of a player until his senior year at Illinois (2006-07), when he averaged 13.7 points and 6.1 rebounds per game for a mediocre Illini club that finished 23-12.

he spent the 2007-08 season playing in Turkey, where he averaged 18 points per game playing for Mutlu Aku Selcuk University.
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7/16/2009  8:18 AM
What the hell is this thread title?
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Q. nyk4ever - What the hell is this thread title?

A. Check Your Local NYK Summer League roster listings. The player profile is provided as a public service for expert Knicks basketball analysis that exists outside the standard fare.

Warren Carter is a longshot.
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7/16/2009  8:59 AM
Dude has a crazy frame, but would be tough to use on the Knicks.

He'd be better on a team where he could play the Balkman role around a bunch of established scorers. We don't have that yet.
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7/16/2009  9:54 AM
JohnWallace - besides, the dude is crazy, period. He used to drive his car the wrong way down one way streets on purpose, just for kicks, in college. But hey, who didn't do stupid stuff in college?

At least he wasn't busted for selling stolen laptops.

I like him
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7/16/2009  9:58 AM
And Now... Deep Thoughts

Some people salivate over Austin Daye (or Anthony Randolph) and kvetch over what the Knicks coulda-shoulda had

I would rather ponder the distance Warren Carter would need to travel with his skill set to be a reasonable facsimile of Austin Daye in an uptempo offensive system
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7/16/2009  10:07 AM
Posted by misterearl:

And Now... Deep Thoughts

Some people salivate over Austin Daye (or Anthony Randolph) and kvetch over what the Knicks coulda-shoulda had

I would rather ponder the distance Warren Carter would need to travel with his skill set to be a reasonable facsimile of Austin Daye in an uptempo offensive system

the same 93 million it would take to get to the sun.

he has done nothing but chuck long jumpers.

in 2 games he has recorded 0 steals and 0 blocks

[Edited by - McK1 on 07-16-2009 10:09 AM]
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7/16/2009  10:18 AM
Posted by misterearl:

And Now... Deep Thoughts

Some people salivate over Austin Daye (or Anthony Randolph) and kvetch over what the Knicks coulda-shoulda had

I would rather ponder the distance Warren Carter would need to travel with his skill set to be a reasonable facsimile of Austin Daye in an uptempo offensive system

Is this actually a spoof of the G.B. Shaw comment??!! Just wondering.

I like Carter- seems to understand the game and has some defensive ability. As I posted elsewhere, I think he should be invited to the pre-season camp.
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7/16/2009  10:21 AM
Posted by misterearl:

And Now... Deep Thoughts

Some people salivate over Austin Daye (or Anthony Randolph) and kvetch over what the Knicks coulda-shoulda had

I would rather ponder the distance Warren Carter would need to travel with his skill set to be a reasonable facsimile of Austin Daye in an uptempo offensive system

hey mr earl how about if we had drafted anthony randoplh and austin daye. would you need to make a thread titles about guys who are never gonna make it? no you would not because we would have interesting rookies worth giving a damn about.

PG - Duhon
SG - Chandler
SF - A Daye
PF - A Randolph
C - DLee

that's a bunch of fast, long-armed gazelles who can stretch a defense with shooting (maybe not quite enough shooting for MDA) and run all day and score all day and even play a little defense. and we could have easily drafted both players. AR went 14th and Daye went 15th.


[Edited by - crzymdups on 16-07-2009 10:24 AM]
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7/16/2009  11:51 AM
What If Superman Was A Nazi

crzymdups - I feel your pain but perfect hindsight is for chumps who only know how to second guess other people after the fact. Drafting is an act of spontaneous art. It has never been a perfect science and never will be. One man's Anthony Randolph is another mans Anthony Mason, who we all know was a free agent.

if "we" had drafted Randolph or Daye?

Unfortunately, we are forced to deal in the "what IS" as opposed to the "what if".

I prefer to see the best features of the guys that are Knicks, as opposed to coveting someone else's unavailable guys. To that end, of course I'm pulling for Almond, Skita and even Warren Carter to survive the slings and arrows,, along with their flaws... and do better.

You never know...

[Edited by - misterearl on 07-16-2009 11:52 AM]
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7/16/2009  12:19 PM
Posted by misterearl:

What If Superman Was A Nazi

crzymdups - I feel your pain but perfect hindsight is for chumps who only know how to second guess other people after the fact. Drafting is an act of spontaneous art. It has never been a perfect science and never will be. One man's Anthony Randolph is another mans Anthony Mason, who we all know was a free agent.

if "we" had drafted Randolph or Daye?

Unfortunately, we are forced to deal in the "what IS" as opposed to the "what if".

I prefer to see the best features of the guys that are Knicks, as opposed to coveting someone else's unavailable guys. To that end, of course I'm pulling for Almond, Skita and even Warren Carter to survive the slings and arrows,, along with their flaws... and do better.

You never know...

[Edited by - misterearl on 07-16-2009 11:52 AM]

Amen!
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Posted by misterearl:

What If Superman Was A Nazi

crzymdups - I feel your pain but perfect hindsight is for chumps who only know how to second guess other people after the fact. Drafting is an act of spontaneous art. It has never been a perfect science and never will be. One man's Anthony Randolph is another mans Anthony Mason, who we all know was a free agent.

if "we" had drafted Randolph or Daye?

Unfortunately, we are forced to deal in the "what IS" as opposed to the "what if".

I prefer to see the best features of the guys that are Knicks, as opposed to coveting someone else's unavailable guys. To that end, of course I'm pulling for Almond, Skita and even Warren Carter to survive the slings and arrows,, along with their flaws... and do better.

You never know...

[Edited by - misterearl on 07-16-2009 11:52 AM]

hindsight?

most of the people here were crying in disbelief well before they drafted gallinari. and a lot of were quite vocal about wanting anthony randolph. my draft board was: Westbrook or Randolph, whoever was available.

misterearl, i have to say, with the way you constantly insult other knicks fans intelligence it really does seem like you must work for the garden. are you, like, dolan's pr assistant or something? gimme a break, man.
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Posted by crzymdups:
Posted by misterearl:

What If Superman Was A Nazi

crzymdups - I feel your pain but perfect hindsight is for chumps who only know how to second guess other people after the fact. Drafting is an act of spontaneous art. It has never been a perfect science and never will be. One man's Anthony Randolph is another mans Anthony Mason, who we all know was a free agent.

if "we" had drafted Randolph or Daye?

Unfortunately, we are forced to deal in the "what IS" as opposed to the "what if".

I prefer to see the best features of the guys that are Knicks, as opposed to coveting someone else's unavailable guys. To that end, of course I'm pulling for Almond, Skita and even Warren Carter to survive the slings and arrows,, along with their flaws... and do better.

You never know...

[Edited by - misterearl on 07-16-2009 11:52 AM]

hindsight?

most of the people here were crying in disbelief well before they drafted gallinari. and a lot of were quite vocal about wanting anthony randolph. my draft board was: Westbrook or Randolph, whoever was available.

misterearl, i have to say, with the way you constantly insult other knicks fans intelligence it really does seem like you must work for the garden. are you, like, dolan's pr assistant or something? gimme a break, man.

Either way I think Earl's point is dead on. We have so many guys whining about Randolph and all these other people. Get over it and move on. We aren't signing them, we can't redraft. I had people I wanted in both drafts. Neither was Gallinari or Hill. But the draft ship has sailed. It's time to move forward. Not saying you, but some guys really have a hard time doing that.
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7/16/2009  12:53 PM
Posted by Bippity10:
Posted by crzymdups:
Posted by misterearl:

What If Superman Was A Nazi

crzymdups - I feel your pain but perfect hindsight is for chumps who only know how to second guess other people after the fact. Drafting is an act of spontaneous art. It has never been a perfect science and never will be. One man's Anthony Randolph is another mans Anthony Mason, who we all know was a free agent.

if "we" had drafted Randolph or Daye?

Unfortunately, we are forced to deal in the "what IS" as opposed to the "what if".

I prefer to see the best features of the guys that are Knicks, as opposed to coveting someone else's unavailable guys. To that end, of course I'm pulling for Almond, Skita and even Warren Carter to survive the slings and arrows,, along with their flaws... and do better.

You never know...

[Edited by - misterearl on 07-16-2009 11:52 AM]

hindsight?

most of the people here were crying in disbelief well before they drafted gallinari. and a lot of were quite vocal about wanting anthony randolph. my draft board was: Westbrook or Randolph, whoever was available.

misterearl, i have to say, with the way you constantly insult other knicks fans intelligence it really does seem like you must work for the garden. are you, like, dolan's pr assistant or something? gimme a break, man.

Either way I think Earl's point is dead on. We have so many guys whining about Randolph and all these other people. Get over it and move on. We aren't signing them, we can't redraft. I had people I wanted in both drafts. Neither was Gallinari or Hill. But the draft ship has sailed. It's time to move forward. Not saying you, but some guys really have a hard time doing that.

Earl has a point?
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7/16/2009  1:07 PM
hindsight

"most of the people here were crying in disbelief well before they drafted gallinari. and a lot of were quite vocal about wanting anthony randolph. my draft board was: Westbrook or Randolph, whoever was available."

Most people?

crzymdups - Just like most people were crying in disbelief when the Knicks selected David Lee?

Or the same people who were crying in disbelief when the Knicks passed on Ron Artest?

Sure, I dug Westbrook too. Even started a thread about it. But Westbrook is playing for a team I could give a rats butt about and the fact that I started a thread about him does NOT make me an ounce smarter than anyone else, especially a person like Donnie Walsh who has forgotten more basketball than I have ever known.

Does that make my, or your, opinion any less valid? Of course not. Don't take it personally. Insult to your intelligence? Only if you think your "intelligence" is superior to the point that it commands the respect of an NBA general manager, who works with real people on a daily basis, not from behind a keyboard. No insult to your intelligence was ever intended. That does not prevent me from challenging a wack assumption.

You have an issue with something, it is very simple... write a cogent and compelling rebuttal. Or have a sandwich.

Your draft board should be bronzed and preserved for immortality. There is no cash prize for guessing right.





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