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BRIGGS
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7/3/2009  12:29 PM
I'm not sure on this one because of Kidd's age. If they offer him a 4th year with the money half guaranteed--that spices up the first three years and makes it more comparable to what Dallas likely offered. If the 4th year comes out around 6.4mm with the theory he is only playing 3 that increases the NY offer to over 7mm per and cuts down some of the gap in the other offer. An additional gesture that really has no effect on the Knicks. If the Knicks believe that Douglas can be a Tony Parker type PG then spending the extra $ to have Kidd here to also work with Douglas might be worth it. I don't know if CBA will allow the Knicks to try something like this?
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7/3/2009  12:37 PM
It's a little unfair to include Douglas's name and future performance in determining Kidd's contract. The kid is going to be good for us imo, but Tony Parker comparisons seem a little far fetched right now.
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7/3/2009  12:43 PM
i think i read that the most the Knicks could offer was 3 years.
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7/3/2009  12:44 PM
Posted by martin:

i think i read that the most the Knicks could offer was 3 years.

yes, this is true because of his age.
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7/3/2009  1:24 PM
Knicks can offer 5 years if they wanted to.
lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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7/3/2009  1:26 PM
Posted by kam77:

Knicks can offer 5 years if they wanted to.

no they can't because kidd is 36. there is a limit to contract length that is determined by the player's age.
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7/3/2009  1:59 PM
oh thats news to me
lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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7/3/2009  2:01 PM
bidding wars over old guys are self-defeating.
http://amonthhoffundays.blogspot.com/ We got a ringer.
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7/3/2009  2:11 PM
Posted by PhilinLA:

bidding wars over old guys are self-defeating.

pretty sure he'll stay in dallas for more money. also i think a big factor here will be that texas has no income tax and new york has major income tax. the difference in real $ value of the deals is probably something far bigger than it looks on paper. and i'm sure cuban has pointed that out. no way kidd leaves dallas.
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7/3/2009  2:24 PM
There's a report that he's already decided to stay in Dallas.
http://amonthhoffundays.blogspot.com/ We got a ringer.
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7/3/2009  2:31 PM
Posted by PhilinLA:

There's a report that he's already decided to stay in Dallas.
RUMOR HAS IT…

In this week's section geared exclusively towards the latest rumors floating around the NBA …

Kidd Staying Put: An informed source has told HOOPSWORLD that Jason Kidd
intends to return to the Dallas Mavericks for a three-year, $24 million contract.

Kidd has indicated to the Mavericks and New York Knicks that he'll mull over their respective offers over the weekend. The Knicks are said to be offering Jason a guaranteed three years at the Mid-Level Exception (MLE) which works out to be approximately $18.1 million.

Barring a surprising change of events, Kidd is expected to notify the Dallas on Monday that he'll take their offer which starts at approximately $7.25 million for the upcoming season.



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7/3/2009  3:01 PM
Posted by earthmansurfer:
Posted by PhilinLA:

There's a report that he's already decided to stay in Dallas.
RUMOR HAS IT…

In this week's section geared exclusively towards the latest rumors floating around the NBA …

Kidd Staying Put: An informed source has told HOOPSWORLD that Jason Kidd
intends to return to the Dallas Mavericks for a three-year, $24 million contract.

Kidd has indicated to the Mavericks and New York Knicks that he'll mull over their respective offers over the weekend. The Knicks are said to be offering Jason a guaranteed three years at the Mid-Level Exception (MLE) which works out to be approximately $18.1 million.

Barring a surprising change of events, Kidd is expected to notify the Dallas on Monday that he'll take their offer which starts at approximately $7.25 million for the upcoming season.



-- Hoopshype.

Not a big deal--the guy is 37
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7/3/2009  3:01 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by earthmansurfer:
Posted by PhilinLA:

There's a report that he's already decided to stay in Dallas.
RUMOR HAS IT…

In this week's section geared exclusively towards the latest rumors floating around the NBA …

Kidd Staying Put: An informed source has told HOOPSWORLD that Jason Kidd
intends to return to the Dallas Mavericks for a three-year, $24 million contract.

Kidd has indicated to the Mavericks and New York Knicks that he'll mull over their respective offers over the weekend. The Knicks are said to be offering Jason a guaranteed three years at the Mid-Level Exception (MLE) which works out to be approximately $18.1 million.

Barring a surprising change of events, Kidd is expected to notify the Dallas on Monday that he'll take their offer which starts at approximately $7.25 million for the upcoming season.



-- Hoopshype.

Not a big deal--the guy is 37

no s**t. we could so do without this.
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7/3/2009  3:07 PM
Posted by crzymdups:
Posted by kam77:

Knicks can offer 5 years if they wanted to.

no they can't because kidd is 36. there is a limit to contract length that is determined by the player's age.

Please explain because that is age discrimination. There is nothing in the CBA that remotely supports this.

ARTICLE IX: LENGTH OF PLAYER CONTRACTS


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Section 1. Maximum Term
Section 2. Computation of Time


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Section 1. Maximum Term.
Except where a shorter term is expressly provided for elsewhere in this Agreement, a Player Contract entered into after the date of this Agreement may cover, in the aggregate, up to but no more than five (5) Seasons (including any Season covered by an Option) from the date such Contract is signed; provided, however, that (a) a Player Contract between a Qualifying Veteran Free Agent and his Prior Team may cover, in the aggregate, up to but no more than six (6) Seasons (including any Season covered by an Option) from the date such Contract is signed, and (b) an Extension of a Rookie Scale Contract may cover, in the aggregate, up to but no more than six (6) Seasons (including any Season covered by an Option) from the date such extension is signed.

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Section 2. Computation of Time.
For purposes of Section 1 above, if a Player Contract or Extension is signed after the beginning of a Season, the Season in which the Contract or Extension is signed shall be counted as one (1) full Season covered by the Contract or Extension.

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