in to go against a short slow player who is a late second round pick at best so they could justify reaching for him at 8. To bad they couldnt get Jennings and Curry to run his arse into submission again

Briggs, you are becoming pathetic and this is another silly thread started only to satisfy your endless thirst for attention for your doomsday scenarios.

Isn't it enough with the negativity this team and fans have had for a while now? Does making this thread somehow makes your life better?

I'm sorry, I know many appreciate Briggs contributions, and I do too. But threads like this are pathetic. Had to say it and its just my opinion.

Hate on!

Posted by BRIGGS:

in to go against a short slow player who is a late second round pick at best so they could justify reaching for him at 8. To bad they couldnt get Jennings and Curry to run his arse into submission again

Just wondering if you have any actual documentation from an objective source on how Holiday actually did against Jennings and Curry? (Please don't print out the reporter transcript with the highlighted move Jennings made on Holiday!)


I assume that you are going to have to go into your vault to dig up another player to champion because you are not a Holiday fan.

For all we know Walsh is going "stealth" and really looking at Flynn, who also worked out for us. I thought that I read an analysis of the Minnesota workout (I think) that mentioned that Flynn was the best defensive player of the group who worked out that day, which included Evans.

I think that Holiday may have a greater upside than Flynn if he develops as some think he should, but Flynn should be ready right from the start, and is quite familiar with the Garden.

You have to figure that we will be choosing from Hill, DeRozan, Flynn, Holiday, and everyone else generally slated to be picked after # 8. We should still get a good player, and if we can pick up Minny's 18th, you might even get a chance to see Mullens on the Knicks.

You have no control over any of these events- Why not just sit back and relax until Thursday night?

i'm not sure if y'all heard, but vdesai thinks the knicks will take lawson...

Posted by djsunyc:

i'm not sure if y'all heard, but vdesai thinks the knicks will take lawson...

Yeah I heard and I also hear from that Portland is high on Lawson and looking to trade up.

Just b/c they gave Holiday a 2nd look doesn't mean they're locked in- they probably either wanted to give him a 2nd chance to either a) put him back under consideration or b) make sure they had no intentions of drafting him.

The type of PG the Knicks will target is Rubio, Curry or Lawson. Knicks fans shouldn't be upset with Lawson who could be the most pro ready PG in the draft and has the most distinguished resume in terms of accomplishments and productivity. Knicks will value court intelligence, shooting efficiency and decision making over raw athleticism and physical ability at the point.

I really like Jonny Flynn, I think he's got Nate like explosiveness and heart without the inconsistency and unpredictability and a more unselfish head, but I think they may prefer Lawson's polish over Flynn.

Posted by McK1:

If Lawson is the Knicks pick I'll eat my keyboard

Better start pouring some hot sauce on it...

Mark Jackson/Travis Best are the PG's I associate most with Donnie from his Pacer days- I see the most similarities to those kinds of players in Lawson more than the other PG's.

I just don't see Holliday as the kind of player D'Antoni would have any interest in.

Posted by Knicksfan:

Briggs, you are becoming pathetic and this is another silly thread started only to satisfy your endless thirst for attention for your doomsday scenarios.

Isn't it enough with the negativity this team and fans have had for a while now? Does making this thread somehow makes your life better?

I'm sorry, I know many appreciate Briggs contributions, and I do too. But threads like this are pathetic. Had to say it and its just my opinion.

Hate on!

I think Holiday is a reach at 8. He wasnt very productive his freshmen year and looks more like a short combo guard. I think there might be more value with the pick trading back at this point. There are a lot of PGs out there--if we cant get the one we truly want--why not explore different options for maximum value? If they need to talk themselves back into the pick because they put him up against second level talent--thats fine--but thats what they did.

I would prefer a Ty Lawson here over Holiday in terms of who is left at PG but I think we can drop back and shed Jefferies contract or pick up a different additional asset. I really see Holiday nose diving if we dont pick him--why reach? He wasnt even a top 5 guard in his own conference. I think he's more of a guy who should go 15-23--thats what he has proven.

In any event I don't think that gives you the right for the personal attack. This has been a crppy team for 10 years--I think it's possible they may have dropped the ball at 5 and the board doesnt look great at 8 if things play to form. No need to trash talk my man.



The Knicks have played it well to get to FA--what that will yield is still up in the air but atleast it gives reasonable hope. Other than that I have little confidence with what is going on--they have a guy who looks more like he would rather be retired as the frontman and a few recycled GMs from bad teams making decisions--on top of which it appears as if Dantoni is the ultimate last say and while he has beena good coach----he's like Jeff Van Gundy in terms of appraising talent. Im still thankful that they did the right thing with FA and if I see something that I like--I will be one of the first to say so.

[Edited by - BRIGGS on 06-24-2009 03:48 AM]