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EwingsGlass
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6/19/2009  9:03 AM
Meanwhile, Charles Oakley is under consideration by Walsh to help big men get down and dirty at the defensive end. Does that mean the Knicks president is unhappy with how easy and how often opponents scored last season? My second question is, how do you teach bringing intimidation and intensity to work every time you get on the court? Oakley also was contacted by Portland officials who suspect it might be good for the team’s health if a trace of his brutish attitude rubbed off on Greg Oden.

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I would be ecstatic if this took place. Nothing against Herb, but I think our big man coach needs a bit more toughness.
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Marv
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6/19/2009  9:12 AM
Nalod
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6/19/2009  9:13 AM
Here we go again.

More Oak, less choke!!!

Actually, the rumor is knick players lend out money and don't collect.

Oak gonna teach them good.

Also their cars get dirty during road trips so he can arrange some pole dancers to clean them.

Good clean fun!
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6/19/2009  9:15 AM
What I thought MDA's answer was to just ask Chandler to add another block to his game for next season. Any big man with an ounce of self respect would be ashame that their SF is getting more blocks than them.

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6/19/2009  9:20 AM
if we valued interior defense we would have held onto jerome.
Nalod
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6/19/2009  9:26 AM
Posted by Marv:

if we valued interior defense we would have held onto jerome.

Great line.

"hold on to jerome"

Sounds like a Lifetime channel movie or somting Bonnie would aspire to!

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6/19/2009  9:33 AM
This is so simple we have all been calling for this for years. Hire the guy, Ewing should also be on the staff.
Marv
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6/19/2009  9:36 AM
how many times have we seen great players suck at coaching? no guarantees oakley will have anything to show for his efforts as a coach.
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6/19/2009  9:41 AM
At least John Starks being a coach is not talked about any more!
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6/19/2009  9:42 AM
Posted by Nalod:

At least John Starks being a coach is not talked about any more!

Those post-game press conferences would have been a treat.
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6/19/2009  9:49 AM
If the Oak man can't get whip Curry's ass and change his mentality no one can.
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6/19/2009  9:54 AM
Posted by VDesai:

If the Oak man can't get whip Curry's ass and change his mentality no one can.

eddy would go on psychiatric disablity within 2 days of oak's arrival.
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6/19/2009  9:59 AM
Posted by Marv:
Posted by VDesai:

If the Oak man can't get whip Curry's ass and change his mentality no one can.

eddy would go on psychiatric disablity within 2 days of oak's arrival.

We can get a medical exemption then...
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6/19/2009  10:03 AM
^^LOL, classic stuff about Curry.

It would be great if we could get Oakley in here. No guarantees he's able to coach but if theres someone I'll take my chances with, it's him.
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Marv
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6/19/2009  10:07 AM
Posted by VDesai:
Posted by Marv:
Posted by VDesai:

If the Oak man can't get whip Curry's ass and change his mentality no one can.

eddy would go on psychiatric disablity within 2 days of oak's arrival.

We can get a medical exemption then...

and a new tat: exempted never exerted
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6/19/2009  10:11 AM
Oakley could help players who want to improve. He can't help players that are either unmotivated (Eddy) or unable (Lee) to attempt what he did on the court as a defender.

It's a nice thought but you can't just put Eddy in Charles Oakley's hands and wind up with a dominant defensive player. The player has to really want it and also have the skills to do it. Otherwise you won't see much if any improvement and any improvement you do see wouldn't last long at all.

It's just reality.

I'd still like to give Oakley a shot but he can also be quite abrasive and when the player isn't improving he's likely to get on their case and that would then have a negative effect on the team.

You can guide people but you cannot change them. Those that change wanted to all along and just needed the guidance. Curry isn't one of these guys. Lee IS one of these guys but you can't teach skills such as defensive awareness and defensive mobility - two things Lee clearly greatly lacks to the point of "lost cause".

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6/19/2009  10:32 AM
Who is going to teach the players Oak speak?
EwingsGlass
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6/19/2009  10:34 AM
Posted by Cosmic:

Oakley could help players who want to improve. He can't help players that are either unmotivated (Eddy) or unable (Lee) to attempt what he did on the court as a defender.

It's a nice thought but you can't just put Eddy in Charles Oakley's hands and wind up with a dominant defensive player. The player has to really want it and also have the skills to do it. Otherwise you won't see much if any improvement and any improvement you do see wouldn't last long at all.

It's just reality.

I'd still like to give Oakley a shot but he can also be quite abrasive and when the player isn't improving he's likely to get on their case and that would then have a negative effect on the team.

You can guide people but you cannot change them. Those that change wanted to all along and just needed the guidance. Curry isn't one of these guys. Lee IS one of these guys but you can't teach skills such as defensive awareness and defensive mobility - two things Lee clearly greatly lacks to the point of "lost cause".

Well put. I want to bring in Oakley as a coach to set the example of the defensive mindset our players should have. Lee might be able to our-rebound Oakley these days, but I think Oak would put a little hurting on him in the process. I don't think Nate would ask for the opportunity to dunk over Oakley in the dunk contest. I think Oak would foul him hard mid-dunk-- just out of habit. If Curry, Danilo, Chandler et al took anything from Oak, it would be an improvement.
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6/19/2009  10:45 AM
If he beats them up in practice a bit maybe they won't be so afraid of contact in the games.
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6/19/2009  10:59 AM
Why is Lee unable to play interior defense? The guy has the height and athletic ability to play it. Curry and Lee are in the same boat as far as effort on the defensive end.
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