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misterearl
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6/4/2009  7:33 PM

6'3 Stephen Curry can step in and push Chris Duhon, and we all know chicks dig the long ball but...

6'3 Jrue Holiday is described as unselfish, intelligent and would be a sophomore in college. He has some growing to do but he can add a defensive accent to the backcourt but...

6'7 DeRozan is the most intriguing because of what he can be molded to do under D'Antoni. He would be positively entertaining in the open court and get The Garden crowd juiced on dunks. You had me at "Vertical is reportedly 40 inches plus". Size in the backcourt is always in style.

You can't teach height.
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6/4/2009  7:43 PM
Posted by misterearl:


6'3 Stephen Curry can step in and push Chris Duhon, and we all know chicks dig the long ball but...

6'3 Jrue Holiday is described as unselfish, intelligent and would be a sophomore in college. He has some growing to do but he can add a defensive accent to the backcourt but...

6'7 DeRozan is the most intriguing because of what he can be molded to do under D'Antoni. He would be positively entertaining in the open court and get The Garden crowd juiced on dunks. You had me at "Vertical is reportedly 40 inches plus". Size in the backcourt is always in style.

You can't teach height.

I thought the Mayor had the sg position locked down. Knicks need a pg or C. This draft has to be about need.
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6/4/2009  7:53 PM
Vmart - at this point no one on the Knicks has anything on lock. No one.

In terms of need the Knicks need everything. You go with the best available talent that can pose some NBA calibre matchup problem at his position. If you are a dude who likes height like The Answer Man likes height, that eliminates the enchanting sweet-shooting Curry and the funny spelling defender Jrue Holiday.

6'7 with a 40 inch vertical is still 6'7 with a 40 inch vertical

With the Knicks two best young players, (The Mayor and The Rooster) healing, every position is wide open.

Hopefully they will be ready to run by September.
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6/4/2009  8:10 PM
Forget the roster as you remember it.

Forget the projected depth charts and imaginary lineups

Donnie Walsh has seen a year up close and has absolutely nothing to lose in the interim year before 2010. He has already tipped his strategy with the multiple centers he started to audition at the end of the season. That tells The Answer Man that the frontcourt will look nothing like the frontcourt of last season.

Expect the unexpected

[Edited by - misterearl on 06-04-2009 8:11 PM]
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6/5/2009  12:39 AM
You think they'll just pawn eddie curry off on some desperate franchise. Right now were in need of a pg especially with last years crop coming in, especially in MDA system, especially in the atlantic division. We could survive with chandler at the 2g.
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6/5/2009  12:50 AM
chandler's a 3, maybe a 4 sometimes. he's not a good enough ball handler to be the off guard.

[Edited by - efw on 06-05-2009 12:50 AM]
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6/5/2009  1:15 AM
Posted by efw:

chandler's a 3, maybe a 4 sometimes. he's not a good enough ball handler to be the off guard.

[Edited by - efw on 06-05-2009 12:50 AM]

thats what I said until he totally played a good shooting guard down the stretch of the season...can't say enough about a guy that can go blow for blow with KG, outshine the small fwds in Atlanta, and abuse shooting guards out there. Chandler is a good freakin player.

with that said knicks just need to keep adding good players....right now the knicks need a pg and there will be som egood ones available.
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6/5/2009  1:40 AM
Posted by misterearl:

Forget the roster as you remember it.

Forget the projected depth charts and imaginary lineups

Donnie Walsh has seen a year up close and has absolutely nothing to lose in the interim year before 2010. He has already tipped his strategy with the multiple centers he started to audition at the end of the season. That tells The Answer Man that the frontcourt will look nothing like the frontcourt of last season.

Expect the unexpected

[Edited by - misterearl on 06-04-2009 8:11 PM]

that's what i keep saying. there is no crystal ball in the world that can predict what donnie is about to pull this summer.
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6/5/2009  8:45 AM
orangeblobman - the primary concern for the Knicks has got to be health and conditioning. If the D'Antoni open court fast break style will be the norm you need healthy bodies to run.

Run.

Was there a Knicks starter who did not break down at some point in the season?

Interesting that that Iron Man Wilson Chandler (82 games) had surgery which translates to the fact that he played a good portion of the season in pain. Lee (81 games) was a warrior. In the downside, although he played 79 games Duhon's physical condition deteriorated by January and it was noticeable.

Jeffries (56 games) was in and out.

The most difficult transition for any college player is the grind of the 82 game marathon. Add to that the Knicks preferred uptempo style of play that puts a premium on quality depth.

The Knicks need 3 lead guards (not point guards, LEAD guards) Mike D can trust... and at least two 6'11 centers who can get out and run.

The rest is relatively easy. Right?
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6/5/2009  9:13 AM
Posted by misterearl:


You can't teach height.

Ok, earl. You can't teach height. Here are some players with good height we've picked up in recent years:
Mardy Collins
Arred Effries
Jerome James
Slavko Vranes
Macje Lampe
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6/5/2009  9:26 AM
Fair And Balanced

Panos, and here are some other players with good height the Knicks picked up in recent years

Ime Udoka
Matt Barnes
Wilson Chandler
Danilo Gallinari
David Lee
Trevor Ariza
Maceo Baston (who made the Pacers roster)

your point is?
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6/5/2009  9:31 AM
TMS just made a mess.
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6/5/2009  10:00 AM
Posted by misterearl:

Fair And Balanced

Panos, and here are some other players with good height the Knicks picked up in recent years

Ime Udoka
Matt Barnes
Wilson Chandler
Danilo Gallinari
David Lee
Trevor Ariza
Maceo Baston (who made the Pacers roster)

your point is?

My point is that height is not everything. Your list did not counter that.
To boot, David Lee, Trevor Ariza, and Wilson Chandler are not tall for their respective positions.
Only Gallinari at the 3 would be considered tall.

[Edited by - panos on 06-05-2009 10:01 AM]
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6/5/2009  10:35 AM
Posted by efw:

chandler's a 3, maybe a 4 sometimes. he's not a good enough ball handler to be the off guard.

[Edited by - efw on 06-05-2009 12:50 AM]

I used to feel the same way about Chandler but in D'Antoni's system Wilson fits as a 2 very well for a couple of reasons.

#1 -- the point guard does the ball handling and makes most of the decisions
#2 -- the 2-guard typically sits on a wing or a corner waiting for a dribble kick pass or some type of motion play
#3 -- Wilson proved that he can take people off the dribble from +20 feet out (including 2-guards)
#4 -- Wison's long range shot has improved to the point that he can stroke it like most 2-guards
#5 -- Wilson has the lateral quickness to guard 2's.
#6 -- Playing the 2 also allows us to run Wilson into the post in mis-match situations
#7 -- Playing Wilson at the 2 helps our rebounding and that is one of our bigger needs (we're small at center - even that out by going big at the 2)
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Posted by LivingLegend:
Posted by efw:

chandler's a 3, maybe a 4 sometimes. he's not a good enough ball handler to be the off guard.

[Edited by - efw on 06-05-2009 12:50 AM]

I used to feel the same way about Chandler but in D'Antoni's system Wilson fits as a 2 very well for a couple of reasons.

#1 -- the point guard does the ball handling and makes most of the decisions
#2 -- the 2-guard typically sits on a wing or a corner waiting for a dribble kick pass or some type of motion play
#3 -- Wilson proved that he can take people off the dribble from +20 feet out (including 2-guards)
#4 -- Wison's long range shot has improved to the point that he can stroke it like most 2-guards
#5 -- Wilson has the lateral quickness to guard 2's.
#6 -- Playing the 2 also allows us to run Wilson into the post in mis-match situations
#7 -- Playing Wilson at the 2 helps our rebounding and that is one of our bigger needs (we're small at center - even that out by going big at the 2)

fair point and MD's system definitely exploits mismatches, but it's usually at the forward or center positions. Also a 2 guard or your second backcourt guard needs to be able to help bring the ball up in order to break a trap and I always cringe a bit when Wilson brings it up. Fortunately, ball handling is one of the easier skills to learn so he could grow into that role.
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6/5/2009  11:00 AM
Panos - you are correct. Height is not everything.

If height was everything Gheorghe Muresan would be in the NBA Hall Of Fame

DeMar DeRozan just has a nice ring to it.



[Edited by - misterearl on 06-05-2009 11:09 AM]
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6/5/2009  11:09 AM
Posted by misterearl:

Panos - you are correct. Height is not everything.

DeMar deRozan just has a nice ring to it.
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6/5/2009  11:11 AM
I think DeRozan is the biggest mystery of the draft, his career can go either way imo. I see a young Kobe in him, but I can also see a "Harold Miner"
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6/5/2009  11:17 AM
Just think of the upside of DeRozan in these terms

Quentin Richardson is another step further away from serious minutes

Oh happy day
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6/5/2009  11:18 AM
Posted by misterearl:

Just think of the upside of DeRozan in these terms

Quentin Richardson is another step further away from serious minutes

Oh happy day

Now that's funny.
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