Two words: DOWNRIGHT UNWATCHABLE!!!

They've got Houston who is very good, but even when he's on, he doesn't make anybody better. In other words, he has the ability to give himself enough room to shoot, but not the ability to break down defenses & cause the spacing problems & rotation that you see the elite guys cause.

Van Horn is OK...a better fit at the position than Spree. KT tries hard & is effective at times doing the little things.

Besides that, they are a roster full of severely unathletic, unimaginative veterans that would make sense as 10th man on some of the rosters out west.

Even if salaries weren't part of the equation, there's not a roster that I wouldn't taken over the Knicks sorry roster.

I am typically a true blue fan...but I flipped to Boise St versus Fresno St last night because as I said, this team is unwatchable. There not one guy who I consider exciting. Even their kids (who don't play) don't get me psyched. Williams has looked good of late, but he's slow. Sweetney is a slightly taller Weatherspoon. Lampe doesn't dress. Vujanic is scared of the NBA.

What a mess!!

COrrection: There's not a roster I wouldn't take over the Knicks.

So why do you continue to watch them? Dolan's gotcha!

Posted by playa2:

So why do you continue to watch them? Dolan's gotcha!

Addiction: every 1 in 10 games they give a high.

I think the knicks are somewhat watchable. It seems like last year we lost a lot of games in the 4th, but we hung in there untill the 4th. A few games this season we got off to bad starts but came back. The knicks are competitive at least. They havent gotten blown out that much. Even against the lakers minus KVH we did ok.

Posted by technomaster:

The thing is our team is missing athletic players (well... except for Shandon Anderson), so we can't play a speed game-- our team is incapable of running. We have a bunch of deliberate players. We're a nice "fundamental" team, but we have no spice.

The media has been playing off the Knicks as arguably one of the most boring teams in the NBA. We continue to be old and predictable. All things considered, in retrospect, we probably should have taken Jarvis Hayes instead of Sweetney--- he would have been better suited to our needs.

With so many swingmen available in the NBDL, it must be rather frustrating for management that we have no roster spots available. We need to dump some players, do a 2-1 trade or something.

Now some trade ideas-- would you try to deal for any of these guys:
Bonzi Wells
Derek Anderson
Ricky Davis
Jamal Crawford
Mo Petersen

IMO, I think we're dreaming if we think Othella Harrington could net us anyone decent. We'd probably need to wait/hope that McDyess is healthy, then package Thomas in a deal (Maybe Thomas/Spoon/lottery protected 1st rounder--- instant frontcourt help). Is there anyone compelling in Dallas? Maybe they'd be willing to trade Jamison in a package, but he still doesn't solve our issues.

We're going to need to make some tough decisions with our starting SG/SFs all banged up. McDyess is going to need a spot soon--- and we might as well get a look at Lampe.

All in all, it's a very frustrating team.

Houston and Weatherspoon for Ricky and Big Z...

How is that a realistic trade? :)

As far as Mutombo is concerned, why do we need him if we're going nowhere?

I'll hold off final judgment until McDyess comes back. If he returns and comes back in pre-injury form, perhaps we'll have all of the flava we need.

The weird thing is that in as much as we're starting Eisley, we might as well buy out Ward and give Frank Williams the playing time. It'll give us the extra roster spot for McDyess.

Posted by purple012870:

COrrection: There's not a roster I wouldn't take over the Knicks.

I dont no. Miami is in a bad way.

Actually, because we're not athletic, we absolutely need to play fundamentally sound basketball every game to win. The lack of athleticism gives us little margin for error.

We're not going to cause turnovers with our reckless energy or run the full length of the court and dunk the ball.

You're right, we don't play fundamental ball... we'd get over this if we had some sheer athletic ability to compensate for our sloppiness.

Without Sprewell, we lost one athletic-style guy. We're trapped playing a half-court game... the only problem with that is in spite of our draft picks and trading Sprewell, we have not yet developed a more effective post presence on offense than last year. That, coupled with nagging injuries to KVH and Allan Houston, have forced us to play ugly.

As an aside, I was reminded that Sweetney recently lost his dad just before the season started; partially as a result of that, I don't really see him contributing too much this year. He probably has too much going through his mind when he isn't playing 'ball for him to be focused on the court. I'd bet Chaney is the only guy on the team who has stepped up on the team as a father figure for him. The difference between him and Lampe/Vranes is that those two guys lived together (w/ Milicic) for 6 weeks leading up to the draft, so they developed a bond there. Sweetney started out all alone.

His body language on the court really stinks... he may still have the ability of an Elton Brand locked away inside, but it could take some time for that to come out.