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Papabear
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5/17/2009  5:07 PM
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Knicks prefer Rubio over GriffinViews 16789 Comments 56 08:16 AM ET 05.17 Share Print It My T&R If the Knicks beat the odds and surge to No. 1 or 2, they are expected to take Spanish point guard Ricky Rubio, the 19-year-old phenom whom Mike D'Antoni faced in the 2008 Olympics. Blake Griffin, the bullish Oklahoma forward, is the consensus No. 1 pick, but the Knicks prefer the Spanish playmaker. UConn 7-foot-3 center Hasheem Thabeet is the consensus third pick and could fill the Knicks' glaring lack of shot blocking. If they remain No. 8, there's a strong possibility Curry, who plays both guard positions,

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Papabears Says if we get the first or second pick it better not be Rubio.
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5/17/2009  5:09 PM
Oh boy, we get the next Bobby Hurley!

Please god, let someone rescue the Knicks from themselves!

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5/17/2009  5:10 PM
thats about right, papabear.

rubio is hands down our first choice. i bet MDA has wet dreams about rubio running his system.
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5/17/2009  5:10 PM
"Per New York Post" aka Marc Berman aka crap pulled out of his ass aka false.
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5/17/2009  5:35 PM
I read this as:
Posted by Papabear:

Blake Griffin, the bullish Oklahoma forward, is the consensus No. 1 pick, but the Knicks prefer the Spanish playmaker. UConn 7-foot-3 center Hasheem Thabeet is the consensus third pick and could fill the Knicks' glaring lack of shot blocking. If they remain No. 8, there's a strong possibility Curry, who plays both guard positions,

... can't wait to see Curry blocking some shots from the pivot!
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5/17/2009  5:36 PM
Posted by oohah:

Oh boy, we get the next Bobby Hurley!

Please god, let someone rescue the Knicks from themselves!

oohah

LOL, I joked before that I hope that the Knicks win the lotto so they wouldn't f up but it appears that can't save them either.
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5/17/2009  5:55 PM
No I believe it. We would be a team that takes Rubio over griffin--thats why I dont care about the lottery. 3 would be funny--they would be offering 3 unrestricted number 1s and everything else to move up one spot.
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Posted by BRIGGS:

No I believe it. We would be a team that takes Rubio over griffin--thats why I dont care about the lottery. 3 would be funny--they would be offering 3 unrestricted number 1s and everything else to move up one spot.

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5/17/2009  6:02 PM
Rubio got bumped and had an MRI on his hip that came back somewhat positive. Wait until he gets bumped in the NBA--calling Tractor Traylor for summer league action by the Celtics Nets multi squad team who face the Knicks and their new ace Ricky Rubio aka la proxima cosa grande
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5/17/2009  6:55 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:

Rubio got bumped and had an MRI on his hip that came back somewhat positive. Wait until he gets bumped in the NBA--calling Tractor Traylor for summer league action by the Celtics Nets multi squad team who face the Knicks and their new ace Ricky Rubio aka la proxima cosa grande

Eww, thats nasty

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5/17/2009  6:57 PM
I'm all for taking Rubio. He'll be the perfect PG for MikeD and that's fine with me. Hopefully we can pick up another pick late in the lotto and go get another player along with him.
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5/17/2009  7:01 PM
if we get #1 i'm taking Griffin & signing up Cabezas as a FA... u can't pass up a prospect like that if u have a chance to land him... unless some team bowls me over that's desperate to take Griffin w/an offer of high picks or young players, or i can get an established star in his prime like Amare for example... otherwise i'm just sticking w/Griffin... he's a consensus #1 for a reason.
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5/17/2009  7:13 PM
I wanna be more specific. I want the knicks to get the 2nd overall pick
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5/17/2009  7:32 PM
If the knicks get the #1 and they prefer Rubio over Griffin I'd assume that Walsh would have his reasons. Is Griffin really a game changer for this team? I think Griffin's an impressive player but still I wonder about his real impact on a team at the next level.

Someone like a CP3, Rose or Deron has a huge impact on the entire team. Perhaps that should have a higher value to a team unless you're talkin a Duncan, which I don't feel Griffin is.
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5/17/2009  7:39 PM
Posted by nixluva:

If the knicks get the #1 and they prefer Rubio over Griffin I'd assume that Walsh would have his reasons. Is Griffin really a game changer for this team? I think Griffin's an impressive player but still I wonder about his real impact on a team at the next level.

Someone like a CP3, Rose or Deron has a huge impact on the entire team. Perhaps that should have a higher value to a team unless you're talkin a Duncan, which I don't feel Griffin is.

But you somehow feel that Rubio is on CP3's level though after watching him for how many games?
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5/17/2009  7:55 PM
Posted by Pharzeone:
Posted by nixluva:

If the knicks get the #1 and they prefer Rubio over Griffin I'd assume that Walsh would have his reasons. Is Griffin really a game changer for this team? I think Griffin's an impressive player but still I wonder about his real impact on a team at the next level.

Someone like a CP3, Rose or Deron has a huge impact on the entire team. Perhaps that should have a higher value to a team unless you're talkin a Duncan, which I don't feel Griffin is.

But you somehow feel that Rubio is on CP3's level though after watching him for how many games?

IMO Griffin will definitely be a game changer for the Knicks & he's as much of a guaranteed star in this draft that u can find... Rubio's an interesting prospect because of his size & potential at his age but really u can't pass up a guy like Griffin to take a flyer on someone like Rubio... Rubio's gonna take at least 3-4 years to assimilate into the NBA & learn how to effectively run this offense while maturing as a player... Griffin's ready made to make a huge impact from day 1... IMO the only thing standing in the way of Griffin being a star in the NBA is if he suffers some kind of major injury, which can happen to any prospect anyway.
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5/17/2009  7:57 PM
Where are Berman's sources for the statements which heads this post?

I am not saying it isn't true, I agree with Berman's basic conclusions, and I can see us wanting Rubio over Griffin and Thabeet, but you need some sources other than an unnamed BB executive.

My belief is that if were to somehow get the #1 pick, we would take Griffin and then trade him to Oklahoma for their #4 and their 1st rounder for next year. Maybe we could even pick up their #25 this year too, or at least their 2nd rd pick this year. I'd think that they would really love Griffin- good fit for their team as a player and for marketing. With the 4 we would probably pick Curry and we would have a 1st rd pick in 2010- possibly a good one- in what some consider a good draft.

I also think that the Knicks may even see Curry as a being similar to Rubio, but with a shot. If he shows any perimeter defensive promise, they might figure that because of his shot, he is a better pick than Rubio. Curry is not as charismatic as Rubio, but I doubt if MDA/Walsh care about the flair a player has on the court.

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5/17/2009  7:59 PM
My belief is that if were to somehow get the #1 pick, we would take Griffin and then trade him to Oklahoma for their #4 and their 1st rounder for next year. Maybe we could even pick up their #25 this year too, or at least their 2nd rd pick this year. I'd think that they would really love Griffin- good fit for their team as a player and for marketing. With the 4 we would probably pick Curry and we would have a 1st rd pick in 2010- possibly a good one- in what some consider a good draft.

that's the type of offer i'd be willing to trade Griffin for... next year there's some bigtime prospects coming out like John Wall & Derrick Favors, & if we nabbed OKL's pick we'd have a legitimate shot at 1 of those guys, plus get ourselves a nice prospect or 2 this year as well.
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5/17/2009  8:06 PM
Posted by TMS:
My belief is that if were to somehow get the #1 pick, we would take Griffin and then trade him to Oklahoma for their #4 and their 1st rounder for next year. Maybe we could even pick up their #25 this year too, or at least their 2nd rd pick this year. I'd think that they would really love Griffin- good fit for their team as a player and for marketing. With the 4 we would probably pick Curry and we would have a 1st rd pick in 2010- possibly a good one- in what some consider a good draft.

that's the type of offer i'd be willing to trade Griffin for... next year there's some bigtime prospects coming out like John Wall & Derrick Favors, & if we nabbed OKL's pick we'd have a legitimate shot at 1 of those guys, plus get ourselves a nice prospect or 2 this year as well.


All this talk about getting the #1 pick. You guys aren't going to Layden me. I'm not getting my hopes up.
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Posted by TMS:
Posted by Pharzeone:
Posted by nixluva:

If the knicks get the #1 and they prefer Rubio over Griffin I'd assume that Walsh would have his reasons. Is Griffin really a game changer for this team? I think Griffin's an impressive player but still I wonder about his real impact on a team at the next level.

Someone like a CP3, Rose or Deron has a huge impact on the entire team. Perhaps that should have a higher value to a team unless you're talkin a Duncan, which I don't feel Griffin is.

But you somehow feel that Rubio is on CP3's level though after watching him for how many games?

IMO Griffin will definitely be a game changer for the Knicks & he's as much of a guaranteed star in this draft that u can find... Rubio's an interesting prospect because of his size & potential at his age but really u can't pass up a guy like Griffin to take a flyer on someone like Rubio... Rubio's gonna take at least 3-4 years to assimilate into the NBA & learn how to effectively run this offense while maturing as a player... Griffin's ready made to make a huge impact from day 1... IMO the only thing standing in the way of Griffin being a star in the NBA is if he suffers some kind of major injury, which can happen to any prospect anyway.

Hasn't Griffin already had a few injuries already??

I have a lot of issues with his game, and his upside. I also feel that as strong as he is, he is going to take a lot of hits in the NBA because the only thing he can do is drive to the basket at this point.

Add to that his height issue, which people seem to be unwilling to consider as a detriment, and you have an undersized PF who does not play good interior D, is about as good a shot blocker as Lee, and has no shot. The conference he came out of always seems to exaggerate the size of their stars. Beasley is a prime example, and Tisdale was another players who was at least 2 inches shorter than his Oklahoma listed height.

I think Griffin will be a nice player if he stays injury free, but not a dominant player IMHO. I also think that he will end up getting hurt a few times- he does not seem to have much flexibility- I see him as having a brittle future. Might want to lay off the PEDs too.
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