Just looking around the league right now i think we have less then 10 sure hall of famers compared to the 80s and 90s...leaving Duncun, Kg, Kobe, Pierce, Kidd and shaq of the 2k list, what do you have

SURE HOF 2k
Chris paul
Wade
LB

Potetial HOF
Brandon Roy
D Howard
Yao Ming
Deron Williams
A I


It's probably a few more names I could put out there, but the overall picture is Bleak, back in the 80s and 90s you had one per team. I can't figure out why there so few flat out super star hall of famers. It maybe a little early in the 2k to judge it but were coming up on the first decade and the NBA ain't producing like it use to, and the Rules are inflating stats at a record pace.
As great as Labron is, the rules allows him to penetrate at will, hard fouls are now flagants and suspensions, the refs have dictated most of the out comes of these games, and to be honest BOSTON ( who I always hated ) seems to be the only team Im rooting for, and the only team in the playoffs worth watchng.

AI is a shoe in first ballot HOFer.

depending if Melo ever grows up he might have a chance & so does KG

[Edited by - TMS on 05-16-2009 8:13 PM]

* NBA Rookie of the Year (1997)
* NBA All-Star Rookie Game Most Valuable Player (1997)
* 1997 NBA All-Rookie Team
* NBA Most Valuable Player (2001)
* 2x NBA All-Star Game MVP (2001, 2005)
* 3x All-NBA First Team
* 3x All-NBA Second Team
* 10x NBA All-Star
* 3x Steals leader (2001, 2002, 2003)
* 7x All-NBA selection
* 4x NBA scoring champion (1999, 2001, 2002, 2005)

he's a shoe in HOFer, trust.

why aren't those others part of the 00's?

then ewing, barkley, malone, hakeem, dominque, stockton, robinson, dumars, jordan, etc. are 80's hof'ers, no?

what's the criteria then?...must be drafted within 5 years of the decade?

then half of all players are somehow counted with the previous decade, is what it sounds like.

it takes 5 years, at least, sometimes for some players to become hof level.

and secondly you left out more than a few hof-level players who made their names during the 00's....

nash
amare
parker
ginobli
nowitzki
vince
melo
at least one player on the championship pistons (billups is my guess)

and there are some others who could make it in if they keep things up (howard, joe johnson or bosh)...but those i listed are pretty much certified for the hof.

[Edited by - PresIke on 05-17-2009 02:25 AM]

I think there are alot of guys like a Vince Carter who will eventually make it also. I think every era has their stars. The Jordan/Ewing era was great because the Knicks were so good.

Posted by TMS:

* NBA Rookie of the Year (1997)
* NBA All-Star Rookie Game Most Valuable Player (1997)
* 1997 NBA All-Rookie Team
* NBA Most Valuable Player (2001)
* 2x NBA All-Star Game MVP (2001, 2005)
* 3x All-NBA First Team
* 3x All-NBA Second Team
* 10x NBA All-Star
* 3x Steals leader (2001, 2002, 2003)
* 7x All-NBA selection
* 4x NBA scoring champion (1999, 2001, 2002, 2005)

he's a shoe in HOFer, trust.

I agree... his game slipped after the little man took an insane beating in the lane night in, night out. What he could do with the rock in his prime stupefies me

Man, A.I is a First Ballot HOF...crazy that some people are trying to argue that it is questionable that he would even make it in.

Definitely media influenced

Posted by sebstar:

Man, A.I is a First Ballot HOF...crazy that some people are trying to argue that it is questionable that he would even make it in.

Definitely media influenced

ai had great stats, and he'll be in the hall of fame, but he is very much overrated and was never able to strengthen his brain into a winning brain. he remains a losing-brain.

yes, he did have that losing brain, even then. his will is so strong that somehow that year they squeezed into the finals..and don't forget the great larry brown was the coach of that team. he is a coach that squeezes the most out of each and every player.

you can't forget that he struggled to shoot 40% for his whole career, that he needed how many shots to put those points on the board...that he was a horrible example for younger players his WHOLE CAREER, INCLUDING DENVER (as we saw in that billups article a few days ago)...all this combined means that he has a losing-brain. he could've won multiple championships if he had ever developed a winning-brain.

dear tms,

no one is questioning what iverson accomplished on a personal level, an individual level. sadly, basketball, last i checked, is a team sport. and he has accomplished nothing on this level.

he went to the finals with a larry brown team, and this is his greatest achievement.

he has been nothing but a bad, a horrible, example for younger players during his entire career. from his 'practice??' stunt to his partying ways in denver (as evidenced in the billups article on this forum).

he was never a leader, only a selfish little man with a lot of talent and a lot of heart-- all misguided and misused over a great individual career that could have been an exemplary one filled with multiple championships.

with his skills, his talent, and his heart, do you really think he was a great basketball player? he could've dished it with the best of them, set a great example for his teammates, and led his team to crazy heights.

alas, he did none of this. he chucked shots up like no other and struggled to shoot 40% from the field in many seasons.

edit:

a note to the kiddies-- cultivate a winning brain first, then work on your game..or do both at the same time. but your game, no matter how nice, is WORTHLESS without a winning brain.

[Edited by - orangeblobman on 05-17-2009 5:07 PM]

Posted by TMS:

um, personal achievements gets you into the HOF.

Now that this is settled we can move on to another topic. A.I has made questionable moves over the years, no doubt, but dont deny the man's talent and accomplishments.