Draft Prospect: Earl Clark
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TMS
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5/4/2009 12:11 AM
another SF? what are we, the Atlanta Hawks?
let me rephrase... what do we wanna become, the Atlanta Hawks? we need a bigman at C or a legit SG or PG... SF is the least of our worries right now... if we're bringing in a veteran who's established at that position it's 1 thing, but to draft another player that will need time to develop there when we already have 2 young SF's on the team that need time as well seems pointless to me. [Edited by - TMS on 05-03-2009 9:13 PM] After 7 years & 40K+ posts, banned by martin for calling Nalod a 'moron'. Awesome.
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Cosmic
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5/4/2009 12:21 AM
TMS I know nothing of Clark but just because we have Gallo and Chandler does not mean we can't select a SF.
If a SF in this draft is better than either? And happens to be the BPA at the time? We must select him and then trade the lesser logjam players away. That is how bad this roster is at the moment. We have no one that should be penciled in as a starter on a future 2010 and beyond NYK roster that is seeking to be a top EC team. No one. Therefore we do NOT draft by need come June. Why? Because our need is EVERY SINGLE POSITION! http://popcornmachine.net/ A must-use tool for NBA stat junkies!
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Cookdcokehop
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5/4/2009 12:22 AM
Posted by TMS: David Lee is 6'8 and playing center for us. Why can't this guy play the 4 or 5 spot at 6'10? What makes him a SF in D'Antoni's system? He's athletic, he can shoot and block shots. Chandler is going to be our SG of the future and we can play Gallo at 3 or 4. Earl Clark is a beast. Stop hating [Edited by - cookdcokehop on May 04 2009 12:23 AM] |
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TMS
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5/4/2009 12:25 AM
so let me get this straight... we used our 1st rounder 2 years ago to take Chandler... then last year we used a #6 lottery pick in a generally stronger draft class to take Gallo... & now in the third consecutive season u think it would be a good idea to take another SF w/our lottery pick? ok, if that makes sense to u, that's cool... i wouldn't do it... we have other holes that need to be filled & we're set at the SF position w/Chandler & Gallo, both of whom have shown some very nice promise & who MDA & Walsh both love.
After 7 years & 40K+ posts, banned by martin for calling Nalod a 'moron'. Awesome.
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TMS
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5/4/2009 12:26 AM
Posted by Cookdcokehop:Posted by TMS: WTF? where the hell am i hating on this prospect??? leave it to you to twist someone's words... get a grip... i'm questioning the logic of picking another SF, not questioning the prospect himself... represent someone's comments correct or just don't comment. After 7 years & 40K+ posts, banned by martin for calling Nalod a 'moron'. Awesome.
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BRIGGS
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5/4/2009 12:27 AM
Posted by Cookdcokehop:Posted by TMS: If you're looking at it from a Knick viewpoint--the way they play and think--I have Clark as *their* darkhorse pick if Curry is gone. Personally I think he is a tweener--he's been very inconsistent despite having a great body and skills set at his size. He's not the smartest guy and he's not exactly the toughest guy. We already have Gallinari and Chandler--although WC can play 2G RIP Crushalot😞
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Cookdcokehop
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5/4/2009 12:38 AM
Posted by TMS:Posted by Cookdcokehop:Posted by TMS: Relax fam it was a joke. All I'm saying is Earl Clark is a 3 and 4. We play in a versatile system and he can shoot, pass and block shots. Why wouldnt he be valuable to us? At the 8th spot I do not see any player better than Clark. We had Gallo and Chandler and D'Antoni still wanted to trade for Diaw. You've watched the Suns play under D'Antoni, how many SF's did they have?...alot. Chandler was killing when he was inserted at the SG spot at the end of the season so I am assuming they are going to experiment with him there next season. Gallo has 0 low post defense so more than likely he will play the 3 spot. David Lee wants 10 mill a year? You want to give David Lee that type of money then this is a dead thread. For those ppl like myself that want to go in another direction, Earl Clark the 6'10 shot blocker with great passing ability would be a great replacement. This guy is better than Anthony Randolph. |
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Cookdcokehop
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5/4/2009 12:45 AM
Posted by BRIGGS:Posted by Cookdcokehop:Posted by TMS: What is everyones infatuation with Stephen Curry? Why don't we just trade for Salim Stoudamire or Eddie House? The guy is overrated man. As for Clark he is a tweener, but the guy is good. If draft Curry we will not be an improved ball club because we still would have no low post defense and wont get better with perimeter defense either bc Curry's defense is worse than Nate's. I'd rather trade for Rafer Alston (who expires in 2010 and will most likely be traded anyway when Jameer comes back). |
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BRIGGS
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5/4/2009 12:45 AM
Posted by Cookdcokehop:Posted by TMS:Posted by Cookdcokehop:Posted by TMS: He cant hold AR's shorts. Randolph is going to be so much better. Randolph is better at every skill and hes much tougher more athletic and longer. Clark is not a tough player and he's a pure tweener. Thats why he was shooting low 40's until he came on late in the year. He's not overly athletic --nothing that stands out. RIP Crushalot😞
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TMS
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5/4/2009 12:52 AM
sorry i may have overreacted but it gets really annoying when people twist ur posts... if the longterm strategy is to replace Harrington & Lee w/Earl Clark, then i can see the reasoning... personally i think MDA & Walsh are gonna target Amare in 2010, & Gallo is going to be used as a tweener at the 3 & 4 w/Wilson playing the 2 & 3... if Clark is a better prospect than Gallo then u need to figure out a plan to trade Gallo then, & i don't think Walsh has any intention on doing that.
& no, i don't wanna hold onto Lee for $10 mil a year... i was the one who said he shoulda been traded at the deadline last year for draft pick(s) because he's not worth that type of longterm commitment... btw, MDA wanted Diaw at the PF position... D Lee was involved in those trade rumors if u remember correctly... Walsh didn't make the trade because his focus is on preserving cap flexibility in 2010. After 7 years & 40K+ posts, banned by martin for calling Nalod a 'moron'. Awesome.
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Cookdcokehop
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5/4/2009 12:57 AM
Posted by BRIGGS:Posted by Cookdcokehop:Posted by TMS:Posted by Cookdcokehop:Posted by TMS: Randolph looks like a Somalian. He needs ALOT of weight training. He gets dunked on and then he looks depressed for the rest of the game. The Warriors were under .500 from day 1 and this guy could barely get on the floor till the end of the season. He doesn't seem tough mentally and obviously not physically. He doesn't have a consistent jumper either. |
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Cookdcokehop
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5/4/2009 1:09 AM
Posted by TMS: I heard somewhere that Amare Stoudamire and D'Antoni don't get along. Personally I would prefer Bosh over Amare. |
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TMS
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5/4/2009 1:36 AM
fact is there's no better bigman on the market in 2010 than Amare... he's better than Bosh & already knows MDA's system well & has had the best years of his career playing under his coaching... i don't see any way Walsh doesn't target him bigtime in 2010.
After 7 years & 40K+ posts, banned by martin for calling Nalod a 'moron'. Awesome.
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SupremeCommander
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5/4/2009 1:42 AM
This draft is pretty deep at point... this team needs a point... I would like for the team groom one for after Duhon expires.
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TMS
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5/4/2009 2:10 AM
i think Steve Nash is also on the radar for 2010... if we don't get Lebron u can be sure Donnie's gonna make a big push for Amare & Nash... this is another reason why i think we should be targetting a future SG like Derozan, or at the very least take a flyer on Dionte Christmas w/a late 1st round or early 2nd round pick we purchase.
After 7 years & 40K+ posts, banned by martin for calling Nalod a 'moron'. Awesome.
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Paladin55
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5/4/2009 2:41 AM
If you are Walsh and the guy(s) you really want is not available when you pick, and according to your draft board, Clark is the BPA, then what do you
do? Who knows how the Knicks talent evaluators are going to grade the players who they see in pre-draft workouts. I don't know if Clark is really 6'10", but he seems to have bigger shoulders than Randolph, and looks like he could put more weight on his frame with little difficulty. I don't think he is as unintelligent and unathletic as some think he might be, and you have to remember he played on a team that generally did not have a single player dominating play. He is also a pretty good defender. The only If we remain at 8, I would favor taking DeRozan and then Curry, but what if Clark blows the Knicks away in a workout? My gut feeling is that the guys who could potentially move up in the draft order after team workouts are DeRozan, Evans, Curry, and Clark, with Mullens and Holiday being longshot candidates to improve their stock based on how specific teams evaluate them. The only PGs I really think the Knicks might take in the draft are Curry and Rubio, unless the guys we really wanted are gone, and Holiday really impresses the Knicks in a workout and we trade down for him and acquire an extra pick this year or next year. If we go PG, we will go for a legit 6'2" plus player, and most of the PGs in this draft don't fit that standard. I can't say that I am rooting for us to take Clark, but the guy is no stiff, and may just be the type of player who does better once he leaves his college system. No man is happy without a delusion of some kind. Delusions are as necessary to our happiness as realities- C.N. Bovee
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GKFv2
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5/4/2009 2:56 AM
Can we trade some cash for Joey Dorsey? I really feel that kid can be like a Ben Wallace type. We have nothing to lose.
Thank you, Rick Brunson.
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MX25
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5/4/2009 5:25 AM
Earl Clark is a magician. He can vanish into thin air.
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Cookdcokehop
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5/4/2009 11:31 AM
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Draft Prospect: Earl Clark