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Bippity10
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4/22/2009  8:28 AM
I was reading the article by Tommy Dee about Q and although I don't agree that he had a good season it did get me thinking. Down the stretch this year he was pretty strong in the post and at times very tough to guard. With him shooting 39 percent why would a team not use him in the post more? I would use him similar to the way Detroit used Dantley and Aguirre. Get the man off the 3 point line and I think he becomes a much better player. Maybe even valuable to the Knicks. Thoughts?
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4/22/2009  8:35 AM
maybe MDA's critics are correct and he can't adapt to personnel. He has one system, and runs it.

And yes- maybe MDA should have realized earlier in the year what Q was perhaps best suited for.

But down the stretch, the knicks were out of it, so I think you can take everyone's performance with a grain of sand.
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4/22/2009  9:03 AM
The article was a joke. Q Rich performed well once again when the Knicks are out of contention. This has been his trend ever since he put on a Knicks uniform.

He seem more involve with Marbury's affair then his own game.



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4/22/2009  9:11 AM
He gotta go.

End of story.
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4/22/2009  10:03 AM
Posted by Bippity10:

I was reading the article by Tommy Dee about Q and although I don't agree that he had a good season it did get me thinking. Down the stretch this year he was pretty strong in the post and at times very tough to guard. With him shooting 39 percent why would a team not use him in the post more? I would use him similar to the way Detroit used Dantley and Aguirre. Get the man off the 3 point line and I think he becomes a much better player. Maybe even valuable to the Knicks. Thoughts?

You're right 100%. As soon as I saw this Q-Rich thread I clicked on here to post the same thing only you beat me to it Bip. Well said. That's Q in a nutshell. We've discussed this before at different times since we traded for him. Throughout his Knick career, they definitely should've looked to utilize him in the post a hell of a lot more than they did. When you look at his skill-set and where he's at his most effective, the post is clearly where he should've be operating most of the time. Physically though, down low's a lot more demanding and taxing on the body then just being a spot-up 3 point gunner or 1/2 dribble midrange shooter and he's had the bad back for a while. Maybe Q's the one who's told his coaches he can't play down there a majority of the time anymore, who knows? Hard to believe veteran coaches like Larry Brown and now Mike D'Antoni (esp. MDA, an offensive coach) just overlooked Q's potential as a post player. I think injuries took it's toll and sapped a lot of game from him. All in all he wasn't terrible for us, but yeah, time to move on and turn the page. Besides obvious holes at C and at the point that need to be filled, we're gonna need to bring in some more talent to beef up the 2/3 spots. Q's a guy that's gonna need to be replaced in the rotation here. Chandler's ready to go full-time now but they're gonna need more help. Acquiring Sam Young/Terrance Williams with an extra 1st rounder, KC Rivers/Jermaine Taylor with a 2nd rounder, looking at bringing in a Morris Almond on the cheap, maybe even inviting a guy like AD Vassallo to camp if he goes undrafted would all be things I'd be considering right now if I were Donnie.
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4/22/2009  10:41 AM
It could have something to do with injuries, who knows? In college he was a very good player in the post, in the pros he started being a more diversified offensive player. Then somewhere around the time he started playing for D'Antoni he started envisioning himself as a perimeter player. He's a big bulky guy, with no consistency on his shot and no lateral movement. He shoots 39 percent and struggles to drive by his man. The reality, is that he is a post player, and a pretty good one. I would keep him there.

Earl: I don't think we need him either and will not miss him when he's gone. Just feel that he as a player, and his future coaches need to adjust to the realities of his game.
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4/22/2009  10:45 AM
Posted by franco12:

maybe MDA's critics are correct and he can't adapt to personnel. He has one system, and runs it.

And yes- maybe MDA should have realized earlier in the year what Q was perhaps best suited for.But down the stretch, the knicks were out of it, so I think you can take everyone's performance with a grain of sand.

What?! Q has been here for 3-4 years. If you knock MDA for not adjusting his system for Q ( a bit player at this point) you would have to knock LB and Isiah as well. They didn't do that for him either. This just in: Q is a shell of his former self and perhaps cant maintain a consistent diet of low post banging do to injuries. Not to mention, he has no more lift.
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4/22/2009  10:47 AM
"May no forward slide a Knicks jersey over his head who is under 6'8..."

bippity - does the expression "the game has passed him by..." resonate in this case?

This is not even debatable.

Of course, unless you want to match Q Rich up against Josh Smith, Dirk or Paul Pierce.

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4/22/2009  10:50 AM
Posted by misterearl:

"May no forward slide a Knicks jersey over his head who is under 6'8..."

bippity - does the expression "the game has passed him by..." resonate in this case?

This is not even debatable.

Of course, unless you want to match Q Rich up against Josh Smith, Dirk or Paul Pierce.

sheesh

I do think that Q is borderline toast. I'm not debating with you. But I do think if he is to save his game and be a contributor it will be in the post. I saw enough over the course of 3 seasons to think he could perform well down there. He would be guarded by smaller players and is a very tough guard down there.
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4/22/2009  10:59 AM
Quentin Richardson is arguably the worst player on this roster. Only Curry is probably worse. Jeffries plays some defense. Q doesn't and is terrible offensively. And he's a "captain" or de-facto captain? LOL @ that.
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4/22/2009  11:04 AM
Posted by GKFv2:

Quentin Richardson is arguably the worst player on this roster. Only Curry is probably worse. Jeffries plays some defense. Q doesn't and is terrible offensively. And he's a "captain" or de-facto captain? LOL @ that.

I'm okay with him being a captain. Why? Because based on our contributions it opens the door for me to be captain of the Knicks next year.
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4/22/2009  11:39 AM
Quentin is the captain? I thought the Knicks either didn't have one, or Jamal was the captain.
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4/22/2009  11:41 AM
Its as much about Q as it as about the offense. Quentin prefers to sit out at there and chuck 3's.
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4/22/2009  12:20 PM
Posted by VDesai:

Its as much about Q as it as about the offense. Quentin prefers to sit out at there and chuck 3's.

I agree. I think that has become his game and he prefers it. He stinks at it, but he prefers it.
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4/22/2009  12:40 PM
Owerweight, broken-back, un-insured, all-in-the-past, and not-to-much-to-show expiring number.
Why bother even think about him?
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4/22/2009  1:02 PM
Posted by misterearl:

He gotta go.

End of story.

That was the best post I've ever seen from you.

Mainly because you said a lot by saying so little.
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4/22/2009  3:54 PM
I would like to see Q handle Webber. The guy never made a big play in his life and relied on everyone put himself to hit a big shot, held Sacto hostage and was a child on more than one occasion.

No reason for him to get in the middle of a situation he knows nothing about. Especially when he was offered 35 minutes after the trades and declined. I highly doubt that was made up you lose credibility as an analyst if you defend a guy that has been moved that many time throughout his career and destroyed every stop he went too....

But seriously why is Q even being discussed. Another horrible trade by Isiah.

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4/22/2009  3:58 PM
Posted by MS:


But seriously why is Q even being discussed.

Because I wanted to discuss him
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4/22/2009  5:31 PM
Posted by Bippity10:
Posted by MS:


But seriously why is Q even being discussed.

Because I wanted to discuss him

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4/22/2009  7:21 PM
before Q ever got here his post up ability for a G was 1 of the main reasons why he was a player i was interested in... he's gone away from that part of his game so much it's puzzling... it's like he's gotten lazy & fell in love w/his 3 point shot... the post up game is where he can utilize his strength & size advantage against other G's... at this point tho we have Wilson Chandler who can do the same things Q could do in his younger days offensively that we need to give more of a role in this offense to, but in a reserve role i agree, we should be looking to exploit the mismatches as much as possible whenever Q is on the floor while being guarded by smaller defenders.
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