[ IMAGES: Images ON turn off | ACCOUNT: User Status is LOCKED why? ]

Artest is still a top player in this league
Forum Index  ›  NY Knicks Forum
« Reply To Topic
Author Thread
fishmike
Posts: 53902
Alba Posts: 1
Joined: 7/19/2002
Member: #298
USA
4/21/2009  11:41 PM
And would prob come here for the full MLE. He would add 10-15 wins to this current team
"winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
AUTOADVERT
Knicksfan
Posts: 33592
Alba Posts: 27
Joined: 7/5/2004
Member: #691
USA
4/21/2009  11:46 PM
Add 10-15 wins?? Thats pretty optimistic. Maybe him along with a good young prospect with the pick will do that...


Knicks_Fan
SupremeCommander
Posts: 34071
Alba Posts: 35
Joined: 4/28/2006
Member: #1127
4/22/2009  12:01 AM
Artest would be an upgrade, for sure, but 5-8 win improvement would be optimistic. He's help the perimeter defense dilemma, but the interior defense would still be weak. Then, he's a GF... like every other Isiah holdover. He also isn't a go to scorer. So, he would definitely help, but there are so many holes on this team that I can't honestly say his presence alone vaults the Knicks to 41+ win territory.
DLeethal wrote: Lol Rick needs a safe space
EwingsGlass
Posts: 27724
Alba Posts: 2
Joined: 4/29/2005
Member: #893
USA
4/22/2009  12:52 AM
If Walsh would deal with Artest, this could be a good thing. His perimeter defense would be a great asset. As far as I can tell, his head is in the game... I guess the question is if both Kidd and Artest offered to take the MLE, which player do you sign?
You know I gonna spin wit it
nykshaknbake
Posts: 22247
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 11/15/2003
Member: #492
4/22/2009  12:55 AM
I've always been a fan of Artest's game. He's a perfect example of a good (not superstar) 2 way player that every team needs that wants to compete deep in the playoffs.
TMS
Posts: 60684
Alba Posts: 617
Joined: 5/11/2004
Member: #674
USA
4/22/2009  2:01 AM
if Artest would be open to signing a MLE i'm all for it... put Chandler at the 2, w/Artest at the 3 & try to move up to draft a bigman who can block some shots like Thabeet or Hill & our defense would be improved dramatically... but right now i want Derozan so bad i hope we just stand pat & he somehow slips down to us where we're picking.
After 7 years & 40K+ posts, banned by martin for calling Nalod a 'moron'. Awesome.
BigC
Posts: 22672
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 12/14/2004
Member: #829
4/22/2009  3:02 AM
Posted by fishmike:

And would prob come here for the full MLE. He would add 10-15 wins to this current team
Walsh is not going to bring Artest here after what happened in Detroit. At the high level Artest was playing at for the Pacers Walsh still traded Artest for basically nothing. Not only that, I think Artest has probably found a home in Houston. Regardless of what people think, Artest is not going to be playing on any team for the full MLE. Artest has been getting underpaid for his career. This time around he is looking for a real contract.

BigC's Knick blogs and Knicks highlights after every Knicks game http://fromthebaseline.com/
fishmike
Posts: 53902
Alba Posts: 1
Joined: 7/19/2002
Member: #298
USA
4/22/2009  7:50 AM
we cant guard ANYONE. Post, perimeter, anyone. We have bigs, smalls and sometimes coaches dropping 50 a game on us. Artest is a guy you can stick on anyone bigger than Nate Robinson and smaller than Dwight Howard. He's also a great all around player. Aside from being one of the best defensive players in the game he's a good shooter, good slasher, excellent passer, he gets tough rebounds and he's a winner.

You take all the minutes Q, JJ and Tim Thomas played give them to Artest and yea, we win 10 more games. Easy.

Most of our games were lost late, and we could never, ever stop the opposing team's leading scorer from going off on us.

A 5 year MLE would be a steal
"winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
Pharzeone
Posts: 32183
Alba Posts: 14
Joined: 2/11/2005
Member: #871
4/22/2009  7:51 AM
Posted by BigC:
Posted by fishmike:

And would prob come here for the full MLE. He would add 10-15 wins to this current team
Walsh is not going to bring Artest here after what happened in Detroit. At the high level Artest was playing at for the Pacers Walsh still traded Artest for basically nothing. Not only that, I think Artest has probably found a home in Houston. Regardless of what people think, Artest is not going to be playing on any team for the full MLE. Artest has been getting underpaid for his career. This time around he is looking for a real contract.

Yep. A big Briggs "trust me" on that one.
I don't like to play bad rookies , I like to play good rookies - Mike D'Antoni
Ira
Posts: 24692
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 8/14/2001
Member: #91
4/22/2009  8:44 AM
We don't need a forward.
fishmike
Posts: 53902
Alba Posts: 1
Joined: 7/19/2002
Member: #298
USA
4/22/2009  9:30 AM
Posted by Ira:

We don't need a forward.
he would be the best player on our roster today. He can defend every position

"winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
Bonn1997
Posts: 58654
Alba Posts: 2
Joined: 2/2/2004
Member: #581
USA
4/22/2009  9:42 AM
Posted by fishmike:
Posted by Ira:

We don't need a forward.
he would be the best player on our roster today. He can defend every position
Yeah, maybe if we had Lebron and KG with Bosh off the bench, then I'd say we don't need a forward.
Allanfan20
Posts: 35947
Alba Posts: 50
Joined: 1/16/2004
Member: #542
USA
4/22/2009  10:07 AM
Wilson Chandler is nice, but he's not the type of player that makes you say "Hey, we don't need anymore fowards, lets pass up on Artest." Doesn't mean Artest can't slide to the 2 guard or the 4, especially if he's becoming a good shotblocker and a much better shooter.

You would have to try and draft Thabeet though.
“Whenever I’m about to do something, I think ‘Would an idiot do that?’ and if they would, I do NOT do that thing.”- Dwight Schrute
Nalod
Posts: 72073
Alba Posts: 155
Joined: 12/24/2003
Member: #508
USA
4/22/2009  10:07 AM
Artest is really having a good "contract year"!

Walsh knows this guy very well. I'd trust his decision if he bought him in.
BigSm00th
Posts: 24504
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 12/9/2001
Member: #178
USA
4/22/2009  12:30 PM
does he want to come home? from what i've read he likes playing with adelman and battier in houston.
#Knickstaps
MS
Posts: 27064
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 7/28/2004
Member: #724
4/22/2009  3:57 PM
The guy is awesome period. He is always in the playoffs and always takes the guys best player. You subtract tmac and add artest the team got better. He made sactown a more complete team, and was great in indy. Granted he melts down and loses games every now and again but the Knicks are a bunch of soft pussies that play zero defense. I would loved to see harrington moved in the offseason and insert artest next to chandler and lee.
« Reply To Topic
Artest is still a top player in this league
Forum Index  ›  NY Knicks Forum

©2001-2025 ultimateknicks.comm All rights reserved. About Us.
This site is not affiliated with the NY Knicks or the National Basketball Association in any way.
You may visit the official NY Knicks web site by clicking here.

All times (GMT-05:00) Eastern Time.

Terms of Use and Privacy Policy