Rubio is IN
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lumbardar
Posts: 20146 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 3/12/2009 Member: #2561 |
4/21/2009 1:40 AM
Until ricky rubio get his buyout taken care off there is no need talking about him. There has been so many teams that have gotten ripped off by europe players or buy there contracts it has happen way too much. European basketball clubs most times won't let a player go with a big contract because they own him. Say we do draft him and his contract still hasn't been bought out what would guys do if he is not here and ripped us off. There going be a lot of teams that will pass up on him if his contract isn't dealt with because teams aren't going to waste time with his contract. It just a lost cause to this becaue nobody wins if his contract isn't taken care off.
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kingofelpaso
Posts: 20270 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 3/3/2009 Member: #2542 |
4/21/2009 1:56 AM
If the Knicks are in the position to acquire the rights to Rubio, DO IT.
The contract stuff can always be worked out later. I think JVK will likely be more reasonable because of the touch economic situation, they'll probably look to cut some kind of a deal with him. |
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franco12
Posts: 34069 Alba Posts: 4 Joined: 2/19/2004 Member: #599 USA |
4/21/2009 2:11 AM
rather than buy out his contracts, why doesn't MSG or some cablevision entity just buy his team? I mean, yea, I'm sure Stern wouldn't be happy, but is there anything in the By Laws to prevent? Probably.
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earthmansurfer
Posts: 24005 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 1/26/2005 Member: #858 Germany |
4/21/2009 2:16 AM
He might just end up here. Gallo to the rescue
 Posted by "Beievethedream" on another forum: With Rubio likely entering his name for the NBA 2009 Draft, rumors have been circulating that once a buyout is reached Rubio will likely state what teams he wishes too play for. (translated) I really would love to get drafted by the NBA and from what my friends and coach tells me I am probable to go as early as the number 2 pick in the NBA draft. It would be a great honor". When asked what team he envisions drafting him Rubio with a smirk claimed " any team will do fine, but I heard New York City is a wonderful place from my friend Danilo" Danilo could not be contacted to confirm this but its likely with Rubio roots and his friendship with New York Knickerbocker Danilo Gallinari, Rubio can state his want to play for New York and New York alone. The Knicks coming off a dissapointing 32-50 season are looking at all their options and would probably take Rubio immediately if given the chance and if the consensus 1st overall pick Blake Griffen is taken before then. [Edited by - earthmansurfer on 04-21-2009 02:17 AM] The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift. Albert Einstein
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Knicksfan
Posts: 33592 Alba Posts: 27 Joined: 7/5/2004 Member: #691 USA |
4/21/2009 2:46 AM
Posted by earthmansurfer: I will let The Skeptic and The Fan to react to this: Skeptic: I've seen this before oh so many times, its ridiculous. Don't you guys remember the Yao Ming saga? They probably asked him the same thing and he mentioned the Knicks. Rumors started floating around and suddenly every fan believed Yao was a Knick. We know what happened after that. So yay, he wants to be in NY because Gallo is his friend. We'll see if he really has the guts to shut down every workout and state he will only go to NY. Then I'll praise him and become a believer. Until then, every candidate in the draft always seems to have a conection to NY and would love playing here. Fan: This is awesome! Practically the best news we've had in a while!! I really hope the Knicks grab one of the three top spots this draft, but if not, it would be so huge to be able to draft Rubio! I really hope this friendship with Gallo is true because it would be just the best thing to happen to the Knicks in a while! Having both Rubio and Gallo in a team coached by Mike D'Antoni would be unreal! There is no doubt that Rubio needs a guy like Mike D as his coach. Its a match made in heaven. I believe this Gallo conection could be huge on draft night, along with the buyout thing, If the Knicks could use that buyout issue to scare teams away and guaranteed Rubio they will pick him, it would be the first real step of progress and a good future for the Knicks. If this happens its gonna be a great birthday present for me (its a day after the draft). Consensus: As Lebron-to-the-Knicks, it sounds great but everything would have to go Knicks favor for this to happen. Is playing in NY, with D'Antoni and Danillo enough for Rubio to reject being taken #2 in the draft? Cancel his workouts and say he will only sign with NY? Will the buyout thing play a role in this? Will the Knicks move up? A Knicks Fan hopes so, but won't believe until he sees it. We've been in this road before and the results haven't been good for us.  Knicks_Fan
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Knicksfan
Posts: 33592 Alba Posts: 27 Joined: 7/5/2004 Member: #691 USA |
4/21/2009 2:55 AM
More gasoline for the fire:
Guest Post: Why Rubio in NY Makes Sense Knicks_Fan
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GKFv2
Posts: 26752 Alba Posts: 114 Joined: 1/16/2007 Member: #1259 USA |
4/21/2009 3:06 AM
Knicks aren't getting Rubio. End of story.
Thank you, Rick Brunson.
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earthmansurfer
Posts: 24005 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 1/26/2005 Member: #858 Germany |
4/21/2009 5:38 AM
Posted by GKFv2: Let me address your points...  Ok then... It's interesting that Rubio has the Euro connection here and more than likely really wants to play here AND fits this system to a T. Anyway, I do hope we can get the second pick in the draft and get this guy. As far as another point guard, I do like Flynn. The NBA really needs NY to succeed. With this economic climate, that is no longer an opinion. It is a fact of business. Having a great point guard (e.g. Rubio) and a playmaker/shooter like Gallo along with Chandler and DLee, we would really be one superstar away from contention. Maybe we do "get" 2nd in the lottery. And if we don't and Rubio slips a bit, we might be able to trade for him. Rubios's buy out might really become an issue. Even though teams can't pay more than 500k, he might need some sort of endorsement deal that would be available in NY. Regarding trading for Rubio, if not on draft night (e.g. - Nate) then once we can do sign and trades. We at least have some thing worth trading (e.g. - Nate and Dlee (preferably Nate as DLee would thrive being the third of fourth option). Stranger things have happened (e.g. - Chicago "winning" the lottery last year). [Edited by - earthmansurfer on 04-21-2009 05:39 AM] The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift. Albert Einstein
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fishmike
Posts: 53902 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 7/19/2002 Member: #298 USA |
4/21/2009 7:46 AM
Knicks need to win the lottery and move to a top 3 pick, end of story. If they go #1 the obviously take Griffin. If they are 2 or 3 they get Rubio. If they stay where they are they are hosed
"winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
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orangeblobman
Posts: 27269 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 3/1/2009 Member: #2539 Nauru |
4/21/2009 8:20 AM
Wow, he's the TRUTH!! That video was awesome I played it twice. I have a gut feeling that the Knicks will get a top 3 pick in the lottery because it's just our time to get lucky.
WE AIN'T NOWHERE WITH THIS BUM CHOKER IN CARMELO. GIVE ME STARKS'S 2-21 ANY DAY OVER THIS LACKLUSTER CLUSTEREFF.
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DarkKnicks
Posts: 21064 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 3/29/2005 Member: #882 Spain |
4/21/2009 8:30 AM
He is in a similar situation Gasol was in 2001. I mean, if he is drafted before 4th, he will play in the NBA this coming year. If he does not, he wont do it next year. Its all about the money.
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nyk4ever
Posts: 41010 Alba Posts: 12 Joined: 1/12/2005 Member: #848 USA |
4/21/2009 9:18 AM
Every year we always go through this thing where we think "the knicks have to get a high draft pick because XXXX is coming out and the NBA wants him here" and it never happens. I would like Rubio as much as anyone else, but it's pretty tough for us to get the #2 pick in the draft.
"OMG - did we just go on a two-trade-wining-streak?" -SupremeCommander
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PresIke
Posts: 27671 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/26/2001 Member: #33 USA |
4/21/2009 9:32 AM
only things that could help the Knicks chances, besides getting lucky in the lotto, is
1) Rubio does the "I will only play for these teams" thing 2) The potential $7.8 mil buyout for him scares some teams enough given the economy Forum Po Po and #33 for a reason...
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MS
Posts: 27064 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/28/2004 Member: #724 |
4/21/2009 9:40 AM
Well then the knicks should be primed to take the kid if the buyout is in play. A team isn't going to spend 10 million on a question mark.
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nyk4ever
Posts: 41010 Alba Posts: 12 Joined: 1/12/2005 Member: #848 USA |
4/21/2009 9:41 AM
Ike, MS.. I seriously hope so. Man, it'd be like Christmas morning if the Knicks got Rubio.
"OMG - did we just go on a two-trade-wining-streak?" -SupremeCommander
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djsunyc
Posts: 44929 Alba Posts: 42 Joined: 1/16/2004 Member: #536 |
4/21/2009 9:42 AM
everything is falling into plan.
knicks will get the #2 pick and take rubio. stern has hired the best script writers in the biz... |
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PresIke
Posts: 27671 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/26/2001 Member: #33 USA |
4/21/2009 9:43 AM
dude, i'd be super happy.
he is a about as perfect fit for this team as it gets. Forum Po Po and #33 for a reason...
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Nalod
Posts: 72073 Alba Posts: 155 Joined: 12/24/2003 Member: #508 USA |
4/21/2009 9:44 AM
Teams can only pay 500k of the buy out so Rubio will have to up the rest. Thats a big buy out number but the kid can just sign another endorsement deal and give it to the team in payments, so its not a big number in reality.
But He must go high in the draft to make some numbers work, and he can make more money in NY which he has to in order to pay his old team. The knicks have assets to make a trade/swap to move up. We likely have to give up Dlee. |
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