I mean who cares, but I figured I'd post it anyway.

http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/58537/20090414/knicks_sign_chris_hunter/

Knicks president Donnie Walsh announced today that free agent forward/center Chris Hunter has been signed to a contract. As per club policy, terms of the deal will not be disclosed. Hunter, a member of the Fort Wayne Mad Ants, became the 24th Call-Up of the 2008-09 NBA Development League season. Hunter, 6-11, 240-pounds, averaged 19.3 points, 9.4 rebounds and 1.2 blocks in 47 games with Fort Wayne this season.

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I mean who cares, but I figured I'd post it anyway.

http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/58537/20090414/knicks_sign_chris_hunter/

Knicks president Donnie Walsh announced today that free agent forward/center Chris Hunter has been signed to a contract. As per club policy, terms of the deal will not be disclosed. Hunter, a member of the Fort Wayne Mad Ants, became the 24th Call-Up of the 2008-09 NBA Development League season. Hunter, 6-11, 240-pounds, averaged 19.3 points, 9.4 rebounds and 1.2 blocks in 47 games with Fort Wayne this season.

i agree.

oops, sorry. wrong thread.

what difference does it make when these guys don't even play? why waste the $60K on these 10 day contracts? just give the fans some free hotdogs, it'll do more good.

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Posted by TMS:

what difference does it make when these guys don't even play? why waste the $60K on these 10 day contracts? just give the fans some free hotdogs, it'll do more good.

Alan Hahn reported that Donnie is filling out his roster for trade purposes.

http://weblogs.newsday.com/sports/basketball/knicks/blog/2009/04/filling_out_the_roster_for_fut.html

Filling out the roster for future plans

After the final practice of the season, a day before the final game, the Knicks signed Chris Hunter to fill the last open roster spot on the team. It's all for paperwork, really. The 6-11, 240-pound forward/center from the D-League's Fort Wayne Mad Ants (and formerly of Michigan) puts the roster at 15 and gives Donnie Walsh one more body to use in a potential trade for either a draft pick (second rounder) or to fill out a multi-player deal on draft night.

The team had plans to sign Courtney Sims for the rest of the season after his second 10-day deal expired on Monday, but Sims, the D-League MVP, was set free.

Joe Crawford and Mouhamed Sene are both signed through the end of the season, which means they, too, could be included in potential deals. If not, both of them and Hunter, for that matter, would become free agents on July 1.

i still don't get it... can't u just substitute up to $3 mil in cash to make up any salary difference & still make a legit cap trade, for picks or players as u see fit? there's no rule in the CBA that states u have to trade as many players as u get back, it's just the dollar figure that's the issue... i mean who's really gonna give us a 2nd round pick in exchange for some D Leaguer that didn't even see any action at the NBA level for us this year? i just don't see it personally... if all we got for Balkman was a 2nd rounder then i have a hard time seeing us getting anything for end of the bench scrubs who didn't get any burn at all.

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Posted by eViL:

Posted by TMS:

what difference does it make when these guys don't even play? why waste the $60K on these 10 day contracts? just give the fans some free hotdogs, it'll do more good.

Alan Hahn reported that Donnie is filling out his roster for trade purposes.

http://weblogs.newsday.com/sports/basketball/knicks/blog/2009/04/filling_out_the_roster_for_fut.html

Filling out the roster for future plans

After the final practice of the season, a day before the final game, the Knicks signed Chris Hunter to fill the last open roster spot on the team. It's all for paperwork, really. The 6-11, 240-pound forward/center from the D-League's Fort Wayne Mad Ants (and formerly of Michigan) puts the roster at 15 and gives Donnie Walsh one more body to use in a potential trade for either a draft pick (second rounder) or to fill out a multi-player deal on draft night.

The team had plans to sign Courtney Sims for the rest of the season after his second 10-day deal expired on Monday, but Sims, the D-League MVP, was set free.

Joe Crawford and Mouhamed Sene are both signed through the end of the season, which means they, too, could be included in potential deals. If not, both of them and Hunter, for that matter, would become free agents on July 1.

i still don't get it... can't u just substitute up to $3 mil in cash to make up any salary difference & still make a legit cap trade, for picks or players as u see fit? there's no rule in the CBA that states u have to trade as many players as u get back, it's just the dollar figure that's the issue... i mean who's really gonna give us a 2nd round pick in exchange for some D Leaguer that didn't even see any action at the NBA level for us this year? i just don't see it personally... if all we got for Balkman was a 2nd rounder then i have a hard time seeing us getting anything for end of the bench scrubs who didn't get any burn at all.

You might as well have the players. At the very least, b/c they are on our roster, we'll at least have the opportunity to take a look at them in summer league and/or training camp.

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Posted by eViL:

Posted by TMS:

what difference does it make when these guys don't even play? why waste the $60K on these 10 day contracts? just give the fans some free hotdogs, it'll do more good.

Alan Hahn reported that Donnie is filling out his roster for trade purposes.

http://weblogs.newsday.com/sports/basketball/knicks/blog/2009/04/filling_out_the_roster_for_fut.html

Filling out the roster for future plans

After the final practice of the season, a day before the final game, the Knicks signed Chris Hunter to fill the last open roster spot on the team. It's all for paperwork, really. The 6-11, 240-pound forward/center from the D-League's Fort Wayne Mad Ants (and formerly of Michigan) puts the roster at 15 and gives Donnie Walsh one more body to use in a potential trade for either a draft pick (second rounder) or to fill out a multi-player deal on draft night.

The team had plans to sign Courtney Sims for the rest of the season after his second 10-day deal expired on Monday, but Sims, the D-League MVP, was set free.

Joe Crawford and Mouhamed Sene are both signed through the end of the season, which means they, too, could be included in potential deals. If not, both of them and Hunter, for that matter, would become free agents on July 1.

i still don't get it... can't u just substitute up to $3 mil in cash to make up any salary difference & still make a legit cap trade, for picks or players as u see fit? there's no rule in the CBA that states u have to trade as many players as u get back, it's just the dollar figure that's the issue... i mean who's really gonna give us a 2nd round pick in exchange for some D Leaguer that didn't even see any action at the NBA level for us this year? i just don't see it personally... if all we got for Balkman was a 2nd rounder then i have a hard time seeing us getting anything for end of the bench scrubs who didn't get any burn at all.

I'm not sure exactly how this works but there has to be some advantage for Walsh.

I'm not sure what the full-season value of a 10-day contract is but if its say a $500K (I have no idea). In theory Walsh could package our 3 10-day contracts together to get $1.5M in salaries to make a potential deal work.

So - lets say he wants to trade Mobley's expiring deal for some type of player and a pick of some type -- its plausible he might need a few extra $ to make the #s work. Rather then having to reach to one of his bigger salaries (#s don't fit) he can place 1, 2 or 3 of these 10-day deals into the contract and make the #s match.

At least that is my assumption...they in effect become trade exceptios of some type.

I love that we're bringing these athletic bigs in here. Hopefully one of them sticks. If you get one of these guys to be a ten minute player next year then you've accomplished something.

You wouldn't say that about guys at other positions, but if you can find an athlete at that size who can come in for a spell, be a threat to block a shot, play for some specific matchups, then Donnie's done his job.

You wonder if they're trying to avoid going into the draft absolutely having to go for a big and being able to focus on PG's.

I could see Donnie telling Mike that he wants to go with a big, and Mike trying to bring in anyone and everyone to try to fill a hole and try to go after a wing or point.

What's weird is the Courtney Sims and Chris Hunter played on the same college teams

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Posted by eViL:

Posted by TMS:

what difference does it make when these guys don't even play? why waste the $60K on these 10 day contracts? just give the fans some free hotdogs, it'll do more good.

Alan Hahn reported that Donnie is filling out his roster for trade purposes.

http://weblogs.newsday.com/sports/basketball/knicks/blog/2009/04/filling_out_the_roster_for_fut.html

Filling out the roster for future plans

After the final practice of the season, a day before the final game, the Knicks signed Chris Hunter to fill the last open roster spot on the team. It's all for paperwork, really. The 6-11, 240-pound forward/center from the D-League's Fort Wayne Mad Ants (and formerly of Michigan) puts the roster at 15 and gives Donnie Walsh one more body to use in a potential trade for either a draft pick (second rounder) or to fill out a multi-player deal on draft night.

The team had plans to sign Courtney Sims for the rest of the season after his second 10-day deal expired on Monday, but Sims, the D-League MVP, was set free.

Joe Crawford and Mouhamed Sene are both signed through the end of the season, which means they, too, could be included in potential deals. If not, both of them and Hunter, for that matter, would become free agents on July 1.

i still don't get it... can't u just substitute up to $3 mil in cash to make up any salary difference & still make a legit cap trade, for picks or players as u see fit? there's no rule in the CBA that states u have to trade as many players as u get back, it's just the dollar figure that's the issue... i mean who's really gonna give us a 2nd round pick in exchange for some D Leaguer that didn't even see any action at the NBA level for us this year? i just don't see it personally... if all we got for Balkman was a 2nd rounder then i have a hard time seeing us getting anything for end of the bench scrubs who didn't get any burn at all.

no, it's not the dollar amount that has to match... It's the players salaries that have to match (come within 25% of each other). The $3 million is a deal sweetner for money hungry owners

dollar amount, salary, whatever u wanna call it, it's pretty much the same thing... there have been trades made in the offseason where teams literally purchase draft picks for monetary considerations... it happens almost every year... there is no exchange of salary there so i fail to see why we need to have scrubs who only make like $60K on the roster to make trades work? there's no quota of live bodies that need to be exchanged in a trade, only the overall salary amounts matter, & up to $3 mil can be included to offset any difference... whatever, if Dolan wants to throw his money away that's his business... would be nice to throw some of that back in ticket savings for next year too at some point for the loyal fans that go to the games... but hey, what am i thinking... this is the Knicks we're talking about here.

No. the dollar amount is not the same thing. When you trade players, the salary of Team A must come within 25 percent of Team B. It's a subtle difference, but it is an important distinction.

The $3 million CANNOT be included to offset the accounting of player's salaries. The $3 million gets included if one team assumes a significantly larger amount of money due.

For example, team A trades a player making $10 million for an overpaid player making $12.5 million on Team B. Team A only makes the deal if they get $3 million tossed their way.

Now take this example: Team A wants the player on Team B making $12.5 million, but Team A can only trade a player making $7 million. Even if they include $3 million, this trade cannot happen, because the players' salaries do not come within 25 percent of each other.

Picks can be purchased outright because they are picks; picks aren't salaried players.

It's not likely that some scrub signed to a 10 day contract will be needed to make a trade happen, but his 10 day contract salary (I believe) gets prorated out to a full season and could be used to get a deal to work. Again, not likely, but if the other team needs to take back a scrub for the deal to get done, better to have that scrub be signed to a 10 day contract.

I agree with you that they don't need him to get a second round pick... but who knows. Maybe another team wants one of these guys so it looks like another team isn't just dumping the pick for cash. Much easier sell to another fanbase when a player comes over with cash, as opposed to straight cash

^ HUH??

Why let Sims go then?

^I think these are tryout type contracts.