[ IMAGES: Images ON turn off | ACCOUNT: User Status is LOCKED why? ]

Hahn: Knicks Will Be Interested In Kidd
Forum Index  ›  NY Knicks Forum
Page 1 of 2  1  2 Next ›
« Reply To Topic
Author Thread
nyk4ever
Posts: 41010
Alba Posts: 12
Joined: 1/12/2005
Member: #848
USA
4/10/2009  2:35 PM
http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/58447/20090410/knicks_will_be_interested_in_kidd/

Apr 10, 2009 11:17 AM EST
Jason Kidd will be a free agent this summer and the Knicks will be interested, according to Alan Hahn of Newsday.

They likely would offer him the mid-level exception for a short-term deal.

Kidd will give the point guard position some much needed depth and the Knicks hope he will also help lure free agents who will want to play with him.

[Edited by - nyk4ever on 04-10-2009 2:36 PM]
"OMG - did we just go on a two-trade-wining-streak?" -SupremeCommander
AUTOADVERT
orangeblobman
Posts: 27269
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 3/1/2009
Member: #2539
Nauru
4/10/2009  2:41 PM
I am all for it, man. Last year I had trouble with his age and how it would 'mess-up' the magic. This hasn't happened, in my opinion. And last week, as he passed Magic for third on the dime list, I noticed John Stockton at the very top, with 15,000. Stock played into his 40's and contributed. Kidd can do this. Watching him this season, with the Mavs at around 50 wins in the grueling West, I say if we can get this guy for the MLE, we MUST go for it.
WE AIN'T NOWHERE WITH THIS BUM CHOKER IN CARMELO. GIVE ME STARKS'S 2-21 ANY DAY OVER THIS LACKLUSTER CLUSTEREFF.
NYKBocker
Posts: 38511
Alba Posts: 474
Joined: 1/14/2003
Member: #377
USA
4/10/2009  2:41 PM
I hope that is plan B if we can't get Nash for a similar short term contract.
nyk4ever
Posts: 41010
Alba Posts: 12
Joined: 1/12/2005
Member: #848
USA
4/10/2009  2:42 PM
I must say the one thing that Kidd definitely does is get his teammates open shots, which would be great for Gallo. Kidd is also great in transition which would be great for MikeD as well as Chandler.

Seems like a no-brainer until we get our PG of the future.
"OMG - did we just go on a two-trade-wining-streak?" -SupremeCommander
TMS
Posts: 60684
Alba Posts: 617
Joined: 5/11/2004
Member: #674
USA
4/10/2009  2:47 PM
i like the fact he plays defense on the perimeter & rebounds, 2 things we could sorely use in our backcourt... i'd rather have Nash offensively speaking but i think Kidd brings more of what our needs currently are.
After 7 years & 40K+ posts, banned by martin for calling Nalod a 'moron'. Awesome.
BigC
Posts: 22672
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 12/14/2004
Member: #829
4/10/2009  3:24 PM
Hell no. Who the hell is he going to be passing to? Have you guys seen him trying to play defense this year? People have been running circles around him all year.
BigC's Knick blogs and Knicks highlights after every Knicks game http://fromthebaseline.com/
kam77
Posts: 27664
Alba Posts: 25
Joined: 3/17/2004
Member: #634
4/10/2009  3:26 PM
Give Jared Jordan a shot.
lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
Pharzeone
Posts: 32183
Alba Posts: 14
Joined: 2/11/2005
Member: #871
4/10/2009  4:28 PM
Bringing Kidd anywhere near MSG would be the biggest signal that this team is not serious about rebuilding.
I don't like to play bad rookies , I like to play good rookies - Mike D'Antoni
nyk4ever
Posts: 41010
Alba Posts: 12
Joined: 1/12/2005
Member: #848
USA
4/10/2009  4:32 PM
Posted by Pharzeone:

Bringing Kidd anywhere near MSG would be the biggest signal that this team is not serious about rebuilding.

Even if its for a year?
"OMG - did we just go on a two-trade-wining-streak?" -SupremeCommander
Pharzeone
Posts: 32183
Alba Posts: 14
Joined: 2/11/2005
Member: #871
4/10/2009  4:41 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by Pharzeone:

Bringing Kidd anywhere near MSG would be the biggest signal that this team is not serious about rebuilding.

Even if its for a year?

What would the purpose be? The object should be acquiring talent or assets. Signing Kidd is a sign that you are trying to make a playoff push. A player of Kidd's status would expect significant playing time as he does in Dallas. You already have Duhon as the veteran. You don't acquire a more senior veteran and still state you are rebuilding. Now if you are telling me that Duhon is going to be traded and Kidd is his replacement while you acquire your point of the future then that makes sense.
I don't like to play bad rookies , I like to play good rookies - Mike D'Antoni
nyk4ever
Posts: 41010
Alba Posts: 12
Joined: 1/12/2005
Member: #848
USA
4/10/2009  4:43 PM
Posted by Pharzeone:
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by Pharzeone:

Bringing Kidd anywhere near MSG would be the biggest signal that this team is not serious about rebuilding.

Even if its for a year?

What would the purpose be? The object should be acquiring talent or assets. Signing Kidd is a sign that you are trying to make a playoff push. A player of Kidd's status would expect significant playing time as he does in Dallas. You already have Duhon as the veteran. You don't acquire a more senior veteran and still state you are rebuilding. Now if you are telling me that Duhon is going to be traded and Kidd is his replacement while you acquire your point of the future then that makes sense.

Thats my premise, atleast.
"OMG - did we just go on a two-trade-wining-streak?" -SupremeCommander
SupremeCommander
Posts: 34071
Alba Posts: 35
Joined: 4/28/2006
Member: #1127
4/10/2009  4:48 PM
Hey, at least the Knicks will contend for 35 wins next season
DLeethal wrote: Lol Rick needs a safe space
TMS
Posts: 60684
Alba Posts: 617
Joined: 5/11/2004
Member: #674
USA
4/10/2009  5:21 PM
Posted by Pharzeone:
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by Pharzeone:

Bringing Kidd anywhere near MSG would be the biggest signal that this team is not serious about rebuilding.

Even if its for a year?

What would the purpose be? The object should be acquiring talent or assets. Signing Kidd is a sign that you are trying to make a playoff push. A player of Kidd's status would expect significant playing time as he does in Dallas. You already have Duhon as the veteran. You don't acquire a more senior veteran and still state you are rebuilding. Now if you are telling me that Duhon is going to be traded and Kidd is his replacement while you acquire your point of the future then that makes sense.

next year they will be making a playoff push, because they don't own their lottery pick anymore & also want to make NY a favorable place to come to for FA's... the time to tank was last year & this year, but of course we always miss the boat... so i guess next year we'll end up winning 10 games & losing the #1 overall pick to Utah... story of our lives.
After 7 years & 40K+ posts, banned by martin for calling Nalod a 'moron'. Awesome.
Pharzeone
Posts: 32183
Alba Posts: 14
Joined: 2/11/2005
Member: #871
4/10/2009  5:29 PM
Posted by TMS:
Posted by Pharzeone:
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by Pharzeone:

Bringing Kidd anywhere near MSG would be the biggest signal that this team is not serious about rebuilding.

Even if its for a year?

What would the purpose be? The object should be acquiring talent or assets. Signing Kidd is a sign that you are trying to make a playoff push. A player of Kidd's status would expect significant playing time as he does in Dallas. You already have Duhon as the veteran. You don't acquire a more senior veteran and still state you are rebuilding. Now if you are telling me that Duhon is going to be traded and Kidd is his replacement while you acquire your point of the future then that makes sense.

next year they will be making a playoff push, because they don't own their lottery pick anymore & also want to make NY a favorable place to come to for FA's... the time to tank was last year & this year, but of course we always miss the boat... so i guess next year we'll end up winning 10 games & losing the #1 overall pick to Utah... story of our lives.

This goes back to D'Antoni vs. Jackson debate as far as I am concern. I agree with you about the time for tanking. Hell I still don't understand the 02-03 season. But at this point why bring in Kidd at this stage of his career. This guy is done. He has a very good game once a week now. The rest he is average getting burnt. Your results will be similar to what you have now but with one less roster spot and more salary thrown at an aging player. To top that off, a coach who will pleading for other pieces to go along with the Kidd acquistion. What you are going to get are more of D'Antoni 40 game playoff push plans.
I don't like to play bad rookies , I like to play good rookies - Mike D'Antoni
TMS
Posts: 60684
Alba Posts: 617
Joined: 5/11/2004
Member: #674
USA
4/10/2009  5:38 PM
i don't think anyone advocates signing Kidd up to a longterm contract.
After 7 years & 40K+ posts, banned by martin for calling Nalod a 'moron'. Awesome.
CrushAlot
Posts: 59764
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 7/25/2003
Member: #452
USA
4/10/2009  5:42 PM
The one reason to bring in Kidd would be his leadership ability and work ethic. He is no where near the player that he was when he went to the Nets and helped turn around the franchise and culture in NJ but he also would cost alot less. There is a chance Kidd could have a Messier type effect on the Knicks and the locker room. I don't think there is much to lose if he signs an one year deal.
I'm tired,I'm tired, I'm so tired right now......Kristaps Porzingis 1/3/18
Bonn1997
Posts: 58654
Alba Posts: 2
Joined: 2/2/2004
Member: #581
USA
4/10/2009  8:00 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by Pharzeone:
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by Pharzeone:

Bringing Kidd anywhere near MSG would be the biggest signal that this team is not serious about rebuilding.

Even if its for a year?

What would the purpose be? The object should be acquiring talent or assets. Signing Kidd is a sign that you are trying to make a playoff push. A player of Kidd's status would expect significant playing time as he does in Dallas. You already have Duhon as the veteran. You don't acquire a more senior veteran and still state you are rebuilding. Now if you are telling me that Duhon is going to be traded and Kidd is his replacement while you acquire your point of the future then that makes sense.

Thats my premise, atleast.
Yeah, I disagree with the idea that a rebuilding team cannot have a veteran PG on it. Kidd would be a tremendous help to the kids you're rebuilding with. That said, I don't think we're rebuilding in the traditional sense. I think in a year and a half there will be a big time veteran star here--whether via trade or free agency--that we're building around. And then we'll be pulling off "intelligent starphucking"--not Isiah/Layden style--but starphucking where you get older or overpaid players who are still very good and can contribute--basically how the Celtics got Ray Allen.
crzymdups
Posts: 52018
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 5/1/2004
Member: #671
USA
4/10/2009  8:10 PM
Kidd will not come here. Alan is reaching lately.
¿ △ ?
Ira
Posts: 24692
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 8/14/2001
Member: #91
4/10/2009  9:43 PM
Posted by crzymdups:

Kidd will not come here. Alan is reaching lately.

I agree. Kidd will want to go out with a winner and he'll have the opportunity to do it somewhere.
Finestrg
Posts: 27296
Alba Posts: 1
Joined: 1/1/2006
Member: #1069
4/10/2009  10:48 PM
Posted by Ira:
Posted by crzymdups:

Kidd will not come here. Alan is reaching lately.

I agree. Kidd will want to go out with a winner and he'll have the opportunity to do it somewhere.

True. Not only that bro, I don't want him anyway. We don't need a guy like that -- yeah he can still play but come on, he's in the twilight of his career. He's the type of guy you grab at this stage if you think you're that 1 piece away, just like Cuban did when he gambled and sent Harris packing for NJ. At this stage you go out and you just start loading up on young guys however you can acquire them and hopefully grab at least one of the younger impact 2010 FA on the market and rebuild it that way provided we don't get lucky in the lottery and net a higher pick then we expect. J Kidd's a great player, don't get me wrong, but he can't help this team. I'd rather just grab one of the better PG prospects in this draft that'll hopefully be there when we pick, whether it's Teague, Warren or Evans, and go from there...

[Edited by - finestrg on 04-10-2009 11:55 PM]
Page 1 of 2  1  2 Next ›
« Reply To Topic
Hahn: Knicks Will Be Interested In Kidd
Forum Index  ›  NY Knicks Forum

©2001-2025 ultimateknicks.comm All rights reserved. About Us.
This site is not affiliated with the NY Knicks or the National Basketball Association in any way.
You may visit the official NY Knicks web site by clicking here.

All times (GMT-05:00) Eastern Time.

Terms of Use and Privacy Policy