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ItalianStallion
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4/1/2009  12:46 PM
This might make for a great competition for the starting SF spot next year.

Gallinari is clearly the much better outside shooter and efficient scorer, but he hasn't shown much yet anywhere else (very few blocks, assists, rebounds etc..)

Chandler has poor selection and is not as good from the outside even when he takes a high quality shot, but he's capable of being aggressive going to the basket, is a better defender and fills out the stat sheet much better than Gallo (even if he doesn't excel at anything yet)

I can't wait to see how they come back next year and who has improved where.



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4/1/2009  1:18 PM
Posted by SeattleStew:

This might make for a great competition for the starting SF spot next year.

Gallinari is clearly the much better outside shooter and efficient scorer, but he hasn't shown much else yet anywhere else (very few blocks, assists, rebounds etc..)

Chandler has poor selection and is not as good from the outside even when he takes a high quality shot, but he's capable of being aggressive going to the basket, is a better defender and fills out the stat sheet much better than Gallo (even if he doesn't excel at anything yet)

I can't wait to see how they come back next year and who has improved where.


I think this isn't even a question. They both are interchangeable and far as I know Gallo can play sg on offense and Candler can play sf. On defense chandler can guard sg and Gallo sf.
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4/1/2009  1:20 PM
Posted by SeattleStew:

This might make for a great competition for the starting SF spot next year.

Gallinari is clearly the much better outside shooter and efficient scorer, but he hasn't shown much else yet anywhere else (very few blocks, assists, rebounds etc..)

Chandler has poor selection and is not as good from the outside even when he takes a high quality shot, but he's capable of being aggressive going to the basket, is a better defender and fills out the stat sheet much better than Gallo (even if he doesn't excel at anything yet)

I can't wait to see how they come back next year and who has improved where.

yea me too. chandler has a chance to be a good player, but absolutley has to keep working on his game and improving. gallo is a huge "who knows" at this point.

the upside is enormous with these two at the 3. but it's far from guarenteed with either
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4/1/2009  1:22 PM
Posted by Vmart:
Posted by SeattleStew:

This might make for a great competition for the starting SF spot next year.

Gallinari is clearly the much better outside shooter and efficient scorer, but he hasn't shown much else yet anywhere else (very few blocks, assists, rebounds etc..)

Chandler has poor selection and is not as good from the outside even when he takes a high quality shot, but he's capable of being aggressive going to the basket, is a better defender and fills out the stat sheet much better than Gallo (even if he doesn't excel at anything yet)

I can't wait to see how they come back next year and who has improved where.


I think this isn't even a question. They both are interchangeable and far as I know Gallo can play sg on offense and Candler can play sf. On defense chandler can guard sg and Gallo sf.

There might be some matchups where that can work, but I think ideally they are both SFs and should be playing their optimal position full time.


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4/1/2009  1:26 PM
Posted by SeattleStew:
Posted by Vmart:
Posted by SeattleStew:

This might make for a great competition for the starting SF spot next year.

Gallinari is clearly the much better outside shooter and efficient scorer, but he hasn't shown much else yet anywhere else (very few blocks, assists, rebounds etc..)

Chandler has poor selection and is not as good from the outside even when he takes a high quality shot, but he's capable of being aggressive going to the basket, is a better defender and fills out the stat sheet much better than Gallo (even if he doesn't excel at anything yet)

I can't wait to see how they come back next year and who has improved where.


I think this isn't even a question. They both are interchangeable and far as I know Gallo can play sg on offense and Candler can play sf. On defense chandler can guard sg and Gallo sf.

There might be some matchups where that can work, but I think ideally they are both SFs and should be playing their optimal position full time.

my hope is that Gallo can fill out to a point where he can be a PF. It'll take a LOT of years for that though.
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4/1/2009  1:31 PM
Posted by martin:
Posted by SeattleStew:
Posted by Vmart:
Posted by SeattleStew:

This might make for a great competition for the starting SF spot next year.

Gallinari is clearly the much better outside shooter and efficient scorer, but he hasn't shown much else yet anywhere else (very few blocks, assists, rebounds etc..)

Chandler has poor selection and is not as good from the outside even when he takes a high quality shot, but he's capable of being aggressive going to the basket, is a better defender and fills out the stat sheet much better than Gallo (even if he doesn't excel at anything yet)

I can't wait to see how they come back next year and who has improved where.


I think this isn't even a question. They both are interchangeable and far as I know Gallo can play sg on offense and Candler can play sf. On defense chandler can guard sg and Gallo sf.

There might be some matchups where that can work, but I think ideally they are both SFs and should be playing their optimal position full time.

my hope is that Gallo can fill out to a point where he can be a PF. It'll take a LOT of years for that though.

maybe him and curry should swap daily meal programs? it would happen real quick that way.
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4/1/2009  1:49 PM
Im thinking Chandler could be a 4, and Gallo a two. Rubio at the pt, and Lebron at the 3.

Works for me!
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4/1/2009  6:15 PM
In all seriousness....gallo, and chandler are small fwds. They shouldn't be asked to convert or change.

Al Harington is still around. I know he's an expiring but yo...he brings the same game that Chandler can. I personally would want Chandler taking that next step into outright owning the starting 3 job.....Gallo can come back next year and essentially be what Chander is this season....spot starter/up and comer.

With that said....what should the Knicks do with Harrington? I think he should be moved this summer. For who? Probably draft picks and an exemption or for a player that actually fits the Knicks needs. I think that's just good business.

A lot of this probably depends on the draft.....@9 the Knicks can pick up some serious upgrades at the 1(rubio? Jennings), 4(hill, griffin, etc) and the 2 (derozen, evans)...that's 6 but there are a few names that are worthy of menton.

So a draft pick could very well replace David Lee, or Nate, and Harrington could also play a part in replacing Nate or Lee.....

Its pretty exciting stuff if you ask me. The Knicks have so many chips to play with.
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4/1/2009  6:47 PM
In the last three drafts how many players are getting a double-double? Lee isnt going anywhere you have to pay him and he will be your starting power forward.
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4/1/2009  7:13 PM
Posted by King1:

In the last three drafts how many players are getting a double-double? Lee isnt going anywhere you have to pay him and he will be your starting power forward.

You keep singing that song. Truth be told the Knicks are a losing team and are terrible on defense.

Your next response is gonna be how Lee plays outta position. There aren't a lot of 7ft dominant big men in this league. If he played in Dave Cowens day and had the balls of a Dave Cowens nobody would question Lee. Lee is a soft power fwd which is crazy cuz he does average a double double.

Anyway....I think this all starts with the emergance of Wilson Chandler. He needs to be putting up some Al Harrington numbers next season. I think the Knicks have to give him the job and allow him and Gallo to decide who gets it perminantly.

After that everything is everything.....maybe even attach chandler, etc to get Melo or another guy.

DJ needs to post his manefesto....he had a brilliant plan at the get together.
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4/1/2009  7:53 PM
Posted by EnySpree:
Posted by King1:

In the last three drafts how many players are getting a double-double? Lee isnt going anywhere you have to pay him and he will be your starting power forward.

You keep singing that song. Truth be told the Knicks are a losing team and are terrible on defense.

Your next response is gonna be how Lee plays outta position. There aren't a lot of 7ft dominant big men in this league. If he played in Dave Cowens day and had the balls of a Dave Cowens nobody would question Lee. Lee is a soft power fwd which is crazy cuz he does average a double double.

Anyway....I think this all starts with the emergance of Wilson Chandler. He needs to be putting up some Al Harrington numbers next season. I think the Knicks have to give him the job and allow him and Gallo to decide who gets it perminantly.

After that everything is everything.....maybe even attach chandler, etc to get Melo or another guy.

DJ needs to post his manefesto....he had a brilliant plan at the get together.


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4/2/2009  12:59 AM
Posted by martin:
Posted by EnySpree:
Posted by King1:

In the last three drafts how many players are getting a double-double? Lee isnt going anywhere you have to pay him and he will be your starting power forward.

You keep singing that song. Truth be told the Knicks are a losing team and are terrible on defense.

Your next response is gonna be how Lee plays outta position. There aren't a lot of 7ft dominant big men in this league. If he played in Dave Cowens day and had the balls of a Dave Cowens nobody would question Lee. Lee is a soft power fwd which is crazy cuz he does average a double double.

Anyway....I think this all starts with the emergance of Wilson Chandler. He needs to be putting up some Al Harrington numbers next season. I think the Knicks have to give him the job and allow him and Gallo to decide who gets it perminantly.

After that everything is everything.....maybe even attach chandler, etc to get Melo or another guy.

DJ needs to post his manefesto....he had a brilliant plan at the get together.


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4/4/2009  12:30 AM
This should not even be a topic because the Knicks drafted or acquired 5 small forwards on draft night over the course of the four drafts before 08. The fact that there were alot of more talented, known players who fit need positions available makes the pick of a lesser known system player seem idiotic.
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Posted by CrushAlot:

This should not even be a topic because the Knicks drafted or acquired 5 small forwards on draft night over the course of the four drafts before 08. The fact that there were alot of more talented, known players who fit need positions available makes the pick of a lesser known system player seem idiotic.


did it ever occur to you that walsh wasn't drafting for the knicks before 08? And that maybe he feels the SF he picked is better than any of the other one's picked, and that this is the guy he wants to build with?


The fact that there were alot of more talented,

A FACT? where? In your eyes.... unfortunately for you, but not for the rest of the knicks fans Walsh doesn't see these "Facts" the way you do....








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4/4/2009  9:54 AM
If Walsh was given a mulligan on the 08 draft do you think he would take it?
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4/4/2009  10:31 AM
The way I look at Gallo vs. Chandler - Chandler needs to improve his outside shot- and a summer of shooting a 1000 a day will help that.

Gallo needs to be healthy, but I'm sorry to disagree with MDA, but he is not nearly as strong a defender as Gallo. Maybe he will be good in an off the ball team defense like Larry Bird was - but on the ball stuff your man- no way.

I'll take Chandler vs. Lebron & live with the results. He might & has slowed him down enough to give your team a chance to win.

I'm afraid of what Lebron would do to Gallo.


Handle? Maybe his bad back is the excuse for his out of control, embarrassing dribble and crazy moves.

Chandler can improve his weaknesses (outside shooting). I'm not so sure Gallo can to the same degree.

Gallo will still have the outside shot on him - but then so did Steve Kerr.

What we need from the 3 is a perimeter threat that can exploit open lanes.

In this offense, they have talked about Gallo as the 4. Don't know that he can board like a 4, and then his on man defense will probably be marginally better than Lee.

If we get lucky and Walsh has the opportunity and makes what will be a brain fart for him, and we draft a player like Thabeet- then Gallo can be a 4.
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4/4/2009  2:15 PM
Gallo will play Al Harrington's role once he's gone... Wilson will just stay in his current role & see more minutes as his game progresses, maybe taking on more of the scoring load... they both have bright futures w/this franchise, as long as they stay healthy.
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4/4/2009  5:04 PM
I think you want Gallo and Chandler at the 2-3 or 3-4 depending on how Gallo fills out. I want them playing together and I want both of them in my starting lineup next year.
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4/4/2009  5:07 PM
i doubt Gallo will be starting next year until at least the Allstar break, unless he comes out w/a vengeance to start the season... Harrington, if he's still here, will likely see minutes ahead of him in this rotation.
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4/4/2009  5:12 PM
Posted by TMS:

i doubt Gallo will be starting next year until at least the Allstar break, unless he comes out w/a vengeance to start the season... Harrington, if he's still here, will likely see minutes ahead of him in this rotation.

Right now its really hard to foresee who's actually going to be here. Lee could be traded and Harrington can be starting at the 4. I want to take the players that you know will be here in 2010 and get them in a position where they are your top contributors.
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