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4/1/2009  9:57 AM
http://fromthebaseline.com/videos/331-chandler-blocks-balkmans-dunk-attempt-#JOSC_TOP

So much for talk of we need Balkman back.
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Posted by BigC:

http://fromthebaseline.com/videos/331-chandler-blocks-balkmans-dunk-attempt-#JOSC_TOP

So much for talk of we need Balkman back.

Being upset that Balkman is gone is a classic example of fans being conditioned to hate everything that goes on in NY.
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4/1/2009  10:57 AM
If Chandler had done that to Kobe, it would've been a flagrant 1
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4/1/2009  11:19 AM
Posted by efw:

If Chandler had done that to Kobe, it would've been a flagrant 1


Chandler block on Balk was nasty. He finish with 4 (the refs credited him with one that shouldn't have been a block, the disputed Billups 3 point block which resulted in Denver keeping the ball on an obvious air ball). His 3 blocks on Okafor was entertaining. Omeka looked confused on each one.
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4/1/2009  1:27 PM
Posted by Pharzeone:
Posted by efw:

If Chandler had done that to Kobe, it would've been a flagrant 1


Chandler block on Balk was nasty. He finish with 4 (the refs credited him with one that shouldn't have been a block, the disputed Billups 3 point block which resulted in Denver keeping the ball on an obvious air ball). His 3 blocks on Okafor was entertaining. Omeka looked confused on each one.


The block that he did on Billups last night was also good. When the Knicks drafted Chandler I thought he was going to be a defensive machine because that's was what he was known for. The fact that he can score is a plus. Imagine if he works on his left hand and develops a go to move this summer.
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4/1/2009  1:52 PM
Posted by Pharzeone:
Posted by efw:

If Chandler had done that to Kobe, it would've been a flagrant 1

Chandler block on Balk was nasty. He finish with 4 (the refs credited him with one that shouldn't have been a block, the disputed Billups 3 point block which resulted in Denver keeping the ball on an obvious air ball). His 3 blocks on Okafor was entertaining. Omeka looked confused on each one.

Chandler's block on Balk was a foul. The one on Kobe was not. My point was to illustrate how refs treat players differently, regardless of what they say.
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Probably a foul, but points out one of Balkman's failures in terms of his growth as a player- he went down like a rag doll. He has not worked on building his body or his jump shot since he came into the league. Think about his value to a team if he added 25 lbs to his frame and developed a jumper as good as Lee's.
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4/1/2009  11:54 PM
Posted by BigC:
Posted by Pharzeone:
Posted by efw:

If Chandler had done that to Kobe, it would've been a flagrant 1


Chandler block on Balk was nasty. He finish with 4 (the refs credited him with one that shouldn't have been a block, the disputed Billups 3 point block which resulted in Denver keeping the ball on an obvious air ball). His 3 blocks on Okafor was entertaining. Omeka looked confused on each one.


The block that he did on Billups last night was also good. When the Knicks drafted Chandler I thought he was going to be a defensive machine because that's was what he was known for. The fact that he can score is a plus. Imagine if he works on his left hand and develops a go to move this summer.

i love how Chandler just goes about his business w/o the unnecessary showboating & posing after he makes a play like that... act like u been there before... Chandler has really grown on me to become my favorite player on this team now... would like to see a little more aggressiveness in his play but it doesn't take the look at me antics to get that... i think Wilson just gets it... he's old school & humble, i like that.
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4/2/2009  4:59 AM
Posted by TMS:
Posted by BigC:
Posted by Pharzeone:
Posted by efw:

If Chandler had done that to Kobe, it would've been a flagrant 1


Chandler block on Balk was nasty. He finish with 4 (the refs credited him with one that shouldn't have been a block, the disputed Billups 3 point block which resulted in Denver keeping the ball on an obvious air ball). His 3 blocks on Okafor was entertaining. Omeka looked confused on each one.


The block that he did on Billups last night was also good. When the Knicks drafted Chandler I thought he was going to be a defensive machine because that's was what he was known for. The fact that he can score is a plus. Imagine if he works on his left hand and develops a go to move this summer.

i love how Chandler just goes about his business w/o the unnecessary showboating & posing after he makes a play like that... act like u been there before... Chandler has really grown on me to become my favorite player on this team now... would like to see a little more aggressiveness in his play but it doesn't take the look at me antics to get that... i think Wilson just gets it... he's old school & humble, i like that.

That's just it, I think he is aggressive enough. There isn't anything on the court that he is passive about. On the offensive end he tries to score and he goes hard to the hole. On the defensive end he blocks shots and gets steals, plus he plays good man to man defense. Chandler has the mindset that he will let his game do the talking. Remember this is Chandler's second year. Just because he does not chuck does not mean he is not aggressive. Chandler is just a player that probably sticks to the game plan. Whereas a guy like Al Harrington chucks when he feels like or is allow more freedom to shoot compared to a second year player like Chandler.

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4/2/2009  11:14 AM
When they start featuring The Mayor is when can truly see what he is capable of doing. As much as I hate the Pip, I think Scottie is the best comparison to Wilson. I think that he should be able to fill up the stat sheet no problem. He is not a consistent 3 point shooter but I think he can work on that.
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4/2/2009  11:41 AM
Posted by BigC:
Posted by TMS:
Posted by BigC:
Posted by Pharzeone:
Posted by efw:

If Chandler had done that to Kobe, it would've been a flagrant 1


Chandler block on Balk was nasty. He finish with 4 (the refs credited him with one that shouldn't have been a block, the disputed Billups 3 point block which resulted in Denver keeping the ball on an obvious air ball). His 3 blocks on Okafor was entertaining. Omeka looked confused on each one.


The block that he did on Billups last night was also good. When the Knicks drafted Chandler I thought he was going to be a defensive machine because that's was what he was known for. The fact that he can score is a plus. Imagine if he works on his left hand and develops a go to move this summer.

i love how Chandler just goes about his business w/o the unnecessary showboating & posing after he makes a play like that... act like u been there before... Chandler has really grown on me to become my favorite player on this team now... would like to see a little more aggressiveness in his play but it doesn't take the look at me antics to get that... i think Wilson just gets it... he's old school & humble, i like that.

That's just it, I think he is aggressive enough. There isn't anything on the court that he is passive about. On the offensive end he tries to score and he goes hard to the hole. On the defensive end he blocks shots and gets steals, plus he plays good man to man defense. Chandler has the mindset that he will let his game do the talking. Remember this is Chandler's second year. Just because he does not chuck does not mean he is not aggressive. Chandler is just a player that probably sticks to the game plan. Whereas a guy like Al Harrington chucks when he feels like or is allow more freedom to shoot compared to a second year player like Chandler.

when i say being more aggressive, i'm more talking about wanting to take over in crunchtime & demanding the ball more... maybe taking more of a leadership role in later years... i'm not really talking about taking it hard to the rim or playing tough defense... i agree w/u, i don't think he's got a problem in those areas & he does play within the system & doesn't freelance as much as some of our other guys, which i like about him.
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4/2/2009  12:58 PM
Posted by efw:
Posted by Pharzeone:
Posted by efw:

If Chandler had done that to Kobe, it would've been a flagrant 1

Chandler block on Balk was nasty. He finish with 4 (the refs credited him with one that shouldn't have been a block, the disputed Billups 3 point block which resulted in Denver keeping the ball on an obvious air ball). His 3 blocks on Okafor was entertaining. Omeka looked confused on each one.

Chandler's block on Balk was a foul. The one on Kobe was not. My point was to illustrate how refs treat players differently, regardless of what they say.
That wasn't a foul IMO. The body contact was incidental from what I saw. He made contact with the ball almost simultaneously and he jumped pretty much straight up with just a slight forward motion. They met at the apex of Balkman's jump, so I think it was a good block.
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4/2/2009  4:47 PM
Posted by TMS:
Posted by BigC:
Posted by TMS:
Posted by BigC:
Posted by Pharzeone:
Posted by efw:

If Chandler had done that to Kobe, it would've been a flagrant 1


Chandler block on Balk was nasty. He finish with 4 (the refs credited him with one that shouldn't have been a block, the disputed Billups 3 point block which resulted in Denver keeping the ball on an obvious air ball). His 3 blocks on Okafor was entertaining. Omeka looked confused on each one.


The block that he did on Billups last night was also good. When the Knicks drafted Chandler I thought he was going to be a defensive machine because that's was what he was known for. The fact that he can score is a plus. Imagine if he works on his left hand and develops a go to move this summer.

i love how Chandler just goes about his business w/o the unnecessary showboating & posing after he makes a play like that... act like u been there before... Chandler has really grown on me to become my favorite player on this team now... would like to see a little more aggressiveness in his play but it doesn't take the look at me antics to get that... i think Wilson just gets it... he's old school & humble, i like that.

That's just it, I think he is aggressive enough. There isn't anything on the court that he is passive about. On the offensive end he tries to score and he goes hard to the hole. On the defensive end he blocks shots and gets steals, plus he plays good man to man defense. Chandler has the mindset that he will let his game do the talking. Remember this is Chandler's second year. Just because he does not chuck does not mean he is not aggressive. Chandler is just a player that probably sticks to the game plan. Whereas a guy like Al Harrington chucks when he feels like or is allow more freedom to shoot compared to a second year player like Chandler.

when i say being more aggressive, i'm more talking about wanting to take over in crunchtime & demanding the ball more... maybe taking more of a leadership role in later years... i'm not really talking about taking it hard to the rim or playing tough defense... i agree w/u, i don't think he's got a problem in those areas & he does play within the system & doesn't freelance as much as some of our other guys, which i like about him.

Cool. We are on the same page. I just think it's hard for Chandler to try to take over games when you have Al and Nate wanting to be Mr. Crunchtime. Also Mike D does not call his number. Mike D has to call plays for Chandler in the clutch in order for him to be more effective. If the play is to let Nate or Al take over then Chandler is just following the script that's handed to him. Remember Phil Jackson would call other players numbers when Mike Jordan retired.

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Posted by Bippity10:
Posted by BigC:

http://fromthebaseline.com/videos/331-chandler-blocks-balkmans-dunk-attempt-#JOSC_TOP

So much for talk of we need Balkman back.

Being upset that Balkman is gone is a classic example of fans being conditioned to hate everything that goes on in NY.

Man, I've been expressing the same sort of sentiment for a minute, but I get blasted for it.
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Cool. We are on the same page. I just think it's hard for Chandler to try to take over games when you have Al and Nate wanting to be Mr. Crunchtime. Also Mike D does not call his number. Mike D has to call plays for Chandler in the clutch in order for him to be more effective. If the play is to let Nate or Al take over then Chandler is just following the script that's handed to him. Remember Phil Jackson would call other players numbers when Mike Jordan retired.

could not agree more w/u on that... right now he's playing 3rd fiddle to other guys in crunchtime because of the way this rotation is set... that could be a factor of his demeanor during practice, or maybe Al & Nate just freelancing a little too much & not running the plays that MDA is calling, who knows... i think Wilson could easily grow into a perfect 2nd fiddle scorer on this team if given the opportunity.
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4/3/2009  9:16 AM
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Cool. We are on the same page. I just think it's hard for Chandler to try to take over games when you have Al and Nate wanting to be Mr. Crunchtime. Also Mike D does not call his number. Mike D has to call plays for Chandler in the clutch in order for him to be more effective. If the play is to let Nate or Al take over then Chandler is just following the script that's handed to him. Remember Phil Jackson would call other players numbers when Mike Jordan retired.

could not agree more w/u on that... right now he's playing 3rd fiddle to other guys in crunchtime because of the way this rotation is set... that could be a factor of his demeanor during practice, or maybe Al & Nate just freelancing a little too much & not running the plays that MDA is calling, who knows... i think Wilson could easily grow into a perfect 2nd fiddle scorer on this team if given the opportunity.

I agree with both of you. And as he matures and improves his game he will be able to wrest control of the end of the game from these two. For example, if Dwayne Wade, Lebron, Kobe or Michael Jordan were here then Al and Nate would not be dominating the ball down the stretch. First they would defer to these guys because Lebrayne Brydan were clearly skilled enough to be the closers on the team. Second the coach would call plays down the stretch for Lebrayne Brydan because the coach knows where his bread is buttered, and knows that Lebrayne would be able to finish games. Third, Lebrayne Brydan would demand it. Fourth, Lebrayne Brydan would impose his will on the game and leave Al and Nate no choice. Fifth, lebrayne would succeed so many times in crunch time that his teammates would make sure that he had the ball because they want to win too.

In Chandler's situation he obviously isn't Lebrayne. He's not anymore skilled than Al or Nate and has not consistently performed in crunch time. Therefore his teammates have not looked for him. Coaches also do not care who there go to guy is down the stretch. They just want to have a go to guy down the stretch. When you don't have that you put every player in position to become that guy. When that player starts to emerge on their own then you start calling plays for them. If they can't step up on their own, then chances are they don't have the cajones at that moment to consistently do it if I call plays for them. Chandler has had strong performances down the stretch of games but overall has made as many mistakes as Al and Nate and David. He has not earned that down the stretch respect yet. He also has yet to impose his will on a game. Lebrayne always plays in the flow of the offense. But down the stretch it is "HIS BALL". Offense be darmed. Give me the ball and go rebound. If I miss and you get the rebound you better get it back to me. He is so successful at it that soon this style becomes part of the Cleviami Bullers offense. The players look for him 100% of the time. They know he will score or get them a good shot. When they clear a side they have to be ready because if Lebrayne isn't going to score he is going to find the open man. So far we have no one that has given his teammates that confidence. Al shoots, Nate goes one on one, Wilson shoots, David turns it over, Larry shoots. We have a bunch of guys pretending to be go to people but no one that understands how to make the right decision at crunch time. Wilson has made strides but it's up to him improving his game to become the go to guy. It's not up to the coach to draw up plays. The coach doesn't create a go to guy. The player does. It's not up to Nate to make Wilson the go to guy. It's up to Wilson to take over the game himself by improving his game and improving his decision making. Until then it's just wishful thinking on our part. Leaders impose their will and others follow. They don't beg for a chance. Wilson isn't there yet.

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4/3/2009  5:34 PM
other teams have:




we have:

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other teams have:




we have:


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what, Charome Sweetcurry doesn't do it for u bro?

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what, Charome Sweetcurry doesn't do it for u bro?


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