Nate will calmn down! It takes some guys longer to mature and IMO I think it's chemical. Nate is still a teenager in terms of his hormones. Some guys just stay hyper a lot longer. For him it's a blessing and a curse! It gives him super energy but often makes him out of control. He'll calmn down as it eventually fades.

It will be really interesting to see what teams are going to offer Nate and Lee. You read stories like this and its almost impossible to say what Nate would get on the market.

i thought this article was interesting to point out within this thread:

A Chagrined Robinson Promises He’ll Change
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Published: December 20, 2006


GREENBURGH, N.Y., Dec. 19 — In 18 months in the N.B.A., Nate Robinson has been a showboat, a slam-dunk champion, a crowd-pleaser, a clutch shooter, a curiosity and an occasional nuisance.

By late Saturday night, he had earned another identity. The polite term would be provocateur. The word used most often on talk radio has been punk.

Robinson, a second-year guard for the Knicks, earned the label — whatever it is — when he puffed out his chest, pumped his arms and challenged Denver’s J. R. Smith, helping incite a melee Saturday at Madison Square Garden.

Robinson did not appear to land any punches. But he and Smith wrestled and tumbled into the first row of seats along the baseline, potentially endangering fans. Robinson was also among the players cited by the N.B.A. commissioner for escalating tensions throughout the incident.

After the game, Robinson was as verbally obstinate as he had been physically brash. By Tuesday, having begun a 10-game suspension, he vowed to work toward “becoming a better person.”

He described the out-of-control Robinson that appears in the game film as someone else, a dangerous alter ego akin to the Incredible Hulk. “I know pretty much not to let that other guy come out no more,” he said. “It’s done, it’s a wrap.”

Had he not reached this conclusion on his own, the 22-year-old Robinson would have had ample assistance. He heard from several family members after the fight, including his father, Jacque, a former N.F.L. running back, and his grandmother.

“She just says learn from it, because I’m not that type of person to go out and act the way I did,” he said. “My mom, my dad, they raised me better than that. I’m definitely sorry for how I acted.”

Robinson apologized to the Knicks, the league, the Nuggets, the fans and “all the kids, because that’s not who Nate Robinson is.”

Yet the display of overdeveloped bravado was not at all surprising to teammates or to coaches. Packed into Robinson’s small frame (listed at 5 feet 9 inches, he is closer to 5-7) is an outsized personality that ranges from humorous to irritating. Robinson talks loudly, plays practical jokes on teammates and generally forces himself into conversations.

The constant yapping and braying can become an annoyance. In separate incidents last season, Robinson tussled with Jerome James and Malik Rose. James stands 7-1 and 300 pounds. But then, Robinson has never let his size hold him back.

In high school, he was a star running back and cornerback. At the University of Washington, he gave up a chance to play football to focus on basketball. He is nearly always the smallest person in the room, and he tends to overcompensate with a large swagger.

“He’s had a chip on his shoulder ever since he was smaller,” said Jamal Crawford, Robinson’s teammate in high school and with the Knicks. “It’s not towards anybody, he just wants to be better than everybody.”

The competitiveness extends to all areas, Crawford said. “We can play pool, and if you beat him, he won’t let you leave until he ends up beating you more than you beat him.”

Yet Crawford, like other teammates, defends Robinson like a brother — albeit the bratty kid brother who is always getting into your stuff.

Crawford added: “Nate’s a great kid. He’s very emotional, he’s all about his teammates.”

Emotional is a frequent description for Robinson. Immature is another. On the court, he often opts for entertainment value over fundamentals, a habit that made Larry Brown, the previous Knicks coach, chafe.

In February, Robinson won the slam-dunk competition during All-Star weekend — but only after stubbornly taking 14 attempts to complete his final dunk. He passed to himself off the backboard.

Last month in Cleveland, Robinson stunned teammates when he tried a similar circus move during a real game. Robinson was on a breakaway and could have scored an uncontested layup. Instead, he tried a bounce pass to himself for a dunk and was called for traveling.

“He’s just a very hyper kid,” the Knicks veteran Steve Francis said Monday. “Hopefully, as he gets older and he gets mature in this league, he’ll learn how to be not only a good player but also a good person and be professional about it.”

Teammates generally defended Robinson’s actions Saturday, saying that he was looking out for his teammate Mardy Collins, whose flagrant foul on Smith started the fracas. Smith jumped to his feet and went jaw to jaw with Collins. For a moment, things were tense but not violent.

“That’s where it’s going to stop in the future,” Commissioner David Stern said Monday.

But then Robinson went after Smith and chaos ensued, which is why Stern dealt Robinson such a lengthy suspension.

Coach Isiah Thomas predicted that the suspension would “have a positive impact” on Robinson, “because someone like him, who has had to go through so much adversity and being so small, to get to this level, he’s definitely capable of adapting and changing.”

The incident seemed to have no effect on Robinson’s popularity when he sponsored a holiday party for 200 children at the Boys and Girls Club of Northern Westchester in Tarrytown on Tuesday night.

The children roared when Robinson entered the gym and quickly surrounded him. He began to offer an apology but was nearly drowned out by cheers as soon as he mentioned “the big fight.”

“Fighting is not cool,” Robinson told the crowd, before posing for photographs with the kids. “I want you guys to know it’s not cool.”

Robinson is averaging 9.9 points in 20.5 minutes a game. The Knicks will miss his speed and his energy and maybe even his braggadocio. Robinson will miss his one chance to play in his hometown, Seattle; the Knicks are there Jan. 5, in what will be the final game of his sentence.

“That’s kind of tough for me,” Robinson said.

As for the indelible impression of him as a punk, an impression reinforced with every television replay, Robinson said he paid it no mind.

“That’s not who I am,” he said. “That’s not the person I’m trying to influence kids to go out and be, because me, I’m fun, I’m happy all the time, I’m smiling. I work hard, I play hard and I’m just protecting my family.”

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i highlighted what i thought was interesting and ask the question....is nate better in regards to his professionalism and mauturity today then when he first came into the league? i would think he hasnt learned much since he does the same stuff over and over....the comment about larry brown was interesting b/c he still does that stuff today under dantoni...

please keep in mind i am not talking about his talent, that is unquestionable...i am talking about his maturity level.....one would think that after 4 yrs in the league that would develop a little bit, but as evidenced in the last week w jawing at anthony carter and almost getting into an altercation w chris paul the other day, its just another day at the office for nate.

do you really think he will change?

I have a hard time blaming Nate about immaturity issues when his coach is a bad example for himself. Do I really need to see him yuck it up with former players, guys he may or may not have gotten to know on the Olympic team and just the opposition in general, then in the same breath whine and complain to the officials on every possession. Stop it. Al Harrington's T? What about the coach's T? This entire squad needs to GTFU already. From top to bottom. That's why you have guys walking off the bench in crucial playoff games because you are so busy running into the fray yourself. This team has a long way to go to learn self control.

This is not about MDA! He is clearly seen ripping his players when they do stupid things and that goes for defensive mistakes and stupid showboating. This idea that he gives way to teams that are undisciplined or out of control is garbage, cuz his PHX teams were very professional. This team doesn't have many bad actors, just Nate and AL, so let's not paint with a broad brush.

Nate will settle down and I don't think there's any real comparison with Steph. I think Steph is a different case altogether. Nate is a high strung guy that thrives off of that natural tendency and he just needs to control it. Steph has always been under control on the court, he's just selfish. That's two different things. Nate is more like Starks. People don't remember it, but Starks did eventually mellow out. I feel Nate will do the same. Don't underestimate the effect that overactive hormones can have on adults. He strikes me as a typical hyperactive.

I would keep him, cuz his net effect is positive IMO. The few instances that he get's out of control aren't frequent enough for me to overlook his positive effect when he enters every game. He's a perfect 6th man and I would like to keep him. As much as I like Lee, he's actually easier to replace than Nate IMO. Nate can takeover a game and even win games for you. Lee is the kind of guy that helps in the middle of games, but can't help much in crunchtime. Lee is good, just not THAT good. So i'd rather look to replace Lee with a stud at PF that is more dominant and keep Nate, who is one of the best 6th men in the league even at this stage.

Posted by Pharzeone:

Posted by martin:

Posted by Pharzeone:

I have a hard time blaming Nate about immaturity issues when his coach is a bad example for himself. Do I really need to see him yuck it up with former players, guys he may or may not have gotten to know on the Olympic team and just the opposition in general, then in the same breath whine and complain to the officials on every possession. Stop it. Al Harrington's T? What about the coach's T? This entire squad needs to GTFU already. From top to bottom. That's why you have guys walking off the bench in crucial playoff games because you are so busy running into the fray yourself. This team has a long way to go to learn self control.

let us know which coach doesn't do this.

Let us know which coach does it so much that he has other coaches calling him out on it during a game.

good find, you point is well taken.

Posted by nixluva:

This is not about MDA! He is clearly seen ripping his players when they do stupid things and that goes for defensive mistakes and stupid showboating. This idea that he gives way to teams that are undisciplined or out of control is garbage, cuz his PHX teams were very professional. This team doesn't have many bad actors, just Nate and AL, so let's not paint with a broad brush.

Nate will settle down and I don't think there's any real comparison with Steph. I think Steph is a different case altogether. Nate is a high strung guy that thrives off of that natural tendency and he just needs to control it. Steph has always been under control on the court, he's just selfish. That's two different things. Nate is more like Starks. People don't remember it, but Starks did eventually mellow out. I feel Nate will do the same. Don't underestimate the effect that overactive hormones can have on adults. He strikes me as a typical hyperactive.

I would keep him, cuz his net effect is positive IMO. The few instances that he get's out of control aren't frequent enough for me to overlook his positive effect when he enters every game. He's a perfect 6th man and I would like to keep him. As much as I like Lee, he's actually easier to replace than Nate IMO. Nate can takeover a game and even win games for you. Lee is the kind of guy that helps in the middle of games, but can't help much in crunchtime. Lee is good, just not THAT good. So i'd rather look to replace Lee with a stud at PF that is more dominant and keep Nate, who is one of the best 6th men in the league even at this stage.

what makes you say that he will settle down with so much confidence? also, how has his net effect been positive? can you ellaborate using facts instead of "feelings"?

Nate says: I call next