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3/26/2009  11:47 PM
http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/58128/20090326/knicks_will_sign_joe_crawford_to_10_day_contract/
Joe Crawford, who was selected by the Lakers in the 2008 NBA Draft with a second round pick, will be called-up to the New York Knicks, according to multiple sources. He will apparently take the place of another D-League call-up, Demetris Nichols.

Crawford, a 6'5", 210 pound shooting guard, has been very solid, though rarely spectacular, for the Los Angeles D-Fenders' this season, averaging 20.8 points, 4.6 boards and 2.7 assists in 43 games (42 starts).
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3/26/2009  11:50 PM
Crawford was a pretty good scorer at Kentucky. Why not give him a shot. Though if these guys never get minutes, what's the point?
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3/27/2009  5:28 AM
lol, isn't there a ref name Joey Crawford?
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3/27/2009  7:27 AM
this D-League rotation is getting crazy, just bring Ewing in here and be done with it
Alan Hahn: Nate Robinson has been on a ridonkulous scoring tear lately (remember when he couldn't hit Jerome James with a Big Mac in early January?)
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3/27/2009  7:47 AM
I'm starting to sour on this regime. I would have liked it better if they gave these guys (Nichols) some actual time to show what they can do.

We know that D'Antoni and Walsh have a great eye when it comes to judging players in practice (see Anthony Roberson).
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3/27/2009  8:13 AM
They've been patting themselves on the back for the Simms signing.

Will he play?

Probably not if Curry's in there.
Alan Hahn: Nate Robinson has been on a ridonkulous scoring tear lately (remember when he couldn't hit Jerome James with a Big Mac in early January?)
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3/27/2009  10:48 AM
Looks like we just signed him officially.

Irony is that Nichols probably goes to Europe now. Feel bad for the dude. I'm shocked that he hasn't found a fit in the league.
Alan Hahn: Nate Robinson has been on a ridonkulous scoring tear lately (remember when he couldn't hit Jerome James with a Big Mac in early January?)
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3/27/2009  10:59 AM
Posted by franco12:

I'm starting to sour on this regime. I would have liked it better if they gave these guys (Nichols) some actual time to show what they can do.

We know that D'Antoni and Walsh have a great eye when it comes to judging players in practice (see Anthony Roberson).

? D-Leaguers gotta show it in practice first.

You don't think it's a good sign that we have our 4th D-Leaguer come through in the last months.
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3/27/2009  12:07 PM
Advance scouting maybe? Get as many as we can in now so we have an idea of who we want to bring in over the summer?
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3/27/2009  1:13 PM
Posted by martin:
Posted by franco12:

I'm starting to sour on this regime. I would have liked it better if they gave these guys (Nichols) some actual time to show what they can do.

We know that D'Antoni and Walsh have a great eye when it comes to judging players in practice (see Anthony Roberson).

? D-Leaguers gotta show it in practice first.

You don't think it's a good sign that we have our 4th D-Leaguer come through in the last months.

You mean D-Leaguers have to show it in practice like Roberson showed it?

As for having the 4th guy come through- no, actually, I don't think its a good sign- none of them got time, I'd rather see a bit more patience. I mean, look at what Golden State & Houston have managed to find in terms of undrafted rookies? Yea, maybe those guys won't have a long career, but both teams gave those guys a chance to prove they belonged.


Not every guy is going to look awesome in practice. Given our status with injured players (hughes/Lee), it would have been nice to see Nichols get more than 2 minutes.

Roberson had a stretch in practice where he couldn't miss- then he got game time and sucked. Just give a guy a chance here!
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3/27/2009  1:17 PM
possibly favors to agents?

besides, they can now re-sell those #11 crawford jerseys for full price...
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3/27/2009  1:40 PM
Posted by franco12:
Posted by martin:
Posted by franco12:

I'm starting to sour on this regime. I would have liked it better if they gave these guys (Nichols) some actual time to show what they can do.

We know that D'Antoni and Walsh have a great eye when it comes to judging players in practice (see Anthony Roberson).

? D-Leaguers gotta show it in practice first.

You don't think it's a good sign that we have our 4th D-Leaguer come through in the last months.

You mean D-Leaguers have to show it in practice like Roberson showed it?

As for having the 4th guy come through- no, actually, I don't think its a good sign- none of them got time, I'd rather see a bit more patience. I mean, look at what Golden State & Houston have managed to find in terms of undrafted rookies? Yea, maybe those guys won't have a long career, but both teams gave those guys a chance to prove they belonged.


Not every guy is going to look awesome in practice. Given our status with injured players (hughes/Lee), it would have been nice to see Nichols get more than 2 minutes.

Roberson had a stretch in practice where he couldn't miss- then he got game time and sucked. Just give a guy a chance here!

you can keep a player on for 2 10-day contracts and then you have to sign them for the year. That's why the short term windows for those guys.

And I don't quite follow the logic of keeping a player if he hasn't shown it in practice on the off-chance he MAY show it on the court.
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3/28/2009  10:43 PM
Posted by martin:
Posted by franco12:
Posted by martin:
Posted by franco12:

I'm starting to sour on this regime. I would have liked it better if they gave these guys (Nichols) some actual time to show what they can do.

We know that D'Antoni and Walsh have a great eye when it comes to judging players in practice (see Anthony Roberson).

? D-Leaguers gotta show it in practice first.

You don't think it's a good sign that we have our 4th D-Leaguer come through in the last months.

You mean D-Leaguers have to show it in practice like Roberson showed it?

As for having the 4th guy come through- no, actually, I don't think its a good sign- none of them got time, I'd rather see a bit more patience. I mean, look at what Golden State & Houston have managed to find in terms of undrafted rookies? Yea, maybe those guys won't have a long career, but both teams gave those guys a chance to prove they belonged.


Not every guy is going to look awesome in practice. Given our status with injured players (hughes/Lee), it would have been nice to see Nichols get more than 2 minutes.

Roberson had a stretch in practice where he couldn't miss- then he got game time and sucked. Just give a guy a chance here!

you can keep a player on for 2 10-day contracts and then you have to sign them for the year. That's why the short term windows for those guys.

And I don't quite follow the logic of keeping a player if he hasn't shown it in practice on the off-chance he MAY show it on the court.

Why did nichols get 1 ten day? And Roberson showed it in practice- but he had nothing on the court.

We've had guys like Matt Carroll and Matt Barnes, but gave up- only to watch them develop into something we could have really used.

Sign Nichols for the rest of the season. Why not? Let him play 10 minutes a game and see if he can stick. Every other good organization, in addition to not screwing up draft picks, manages to find really good role players off the scrap heap.

Instead, we treat role players like stars (Nate, Lee).
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3/28/2009  11:48 PM
Posted by franco12:
Posted by martin:
Posted by franco12:
Posted by martin:
Posted by franco12:

I'm starting to sour on this regime. I would have liked it better if they gave these guys (Nichols) some actual time to show what they can do.

We know that D'Antoni and Walsh have a great eye when it comes to judging players in practice (see Anthony Roberson).

? D-Leaguers gotta show it in practice first.

You don't think it's a good sign that we have our 4th D-Leaguer come through in the last months.

You mean D-Leaguers have to show it in practice like Roberson showed it?

As for having the 4th guy come through- no, actually, I don't think its a good sign- none of them got time, I'd rather see a bit more patience. I mean, look at what Golden State & Houston have managed to find in terms of undrafted rookies? Yea, maybe those guys won't have a long career, but both teams gave those guys a chance to prove they belonged.


Not every guy is going to look awesome in practice. Given our status with injured players (hughes/Lee), it would have been nice to see Nichols get more than 2 minutes.

Roberson had a stretch in practice where he couldn't miss- then he got game time and sucked. Just give a guy a chance here!

you can keep a player on for 2 10-day contracts and then you have to sign them for the year. That's why the short term windows for those guys.

And I don't quite follow the logic of keeping a player if he hasn't shown it in practice on the off-chance he MAY show it on the court.

Why did nichols get 1 ten day? And Roberson showed it in practice- but he had nothing on the court.

We've had guys like Matt Carroll and Matt Barnes, but gave up- only to watch them develop into something we could have really used.

Sign Nichols for the rest of the season. Why not? Let him play 10 minutes a game and see if he can stick. Every other good organization, in addition to not screwing up draft picks, manages to find really good role players off the scrap heap.

Instead, we treat role players like stars (Nate, Lee).

I agree with you man.

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3/28/2009  11:52 PM
Posted by franco12:


Why did nichols get 1 ten day? And Roberson showed it in practice- but he had nothing on the court.

We've had guys like Matt Carroll and Matt Barnes, but gave up- only to watch them develop into something we could have really used.

Sign Nichols for the rest of the season. Why not? Let him play 10 minutes a game and see if he can stick. Every other good organization, in addition to not screwing up draft picks, manages to find really good role players off the scrap heap.

Instead, we treat role players like stars (Nate, Lee).

What's the point of signing Nichols at this point without checking out the other guys in the D League to see how they might fit. I think that MDA and Walsh realize that Roberson was a mistake and so why repeat that by committing to a guy when you don't have to. Take a look at the player in practice and then get a look at some other guys. This way you can have a more educated decision on who you might invite to summer league and camp next year.

We really don't need more role players IMO. We need some stars. The thing is that we'll likely be making more changes and that's the reason you want to have a look at as many role players as possible so that if and when you move out some guys you can have some viable replacement role players already scoped out.
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3/29/2009  12:16 AM
Posted by franco12:

Instead, we treat role players like stars (Nate, Lee).

Why do you say this?

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3/29/2009  12:06 PM
Posted by martin:
Posted by franco12:

Instead, we treat role players like stars (Nate, Lee).

Why do you say this?

Where is TMS when you need him?

You mean you want to know who the 'We' is?


I guess I'm just upset that Walsh & D'Antoni- and I love MDA as a coach, and his style of play- have really lagged in terms of finding some possible supporting cast type guys during the season. They went for Roberson, when they should have waited. We've had roster spots open, and they've taken a long time to act.

And then we're out of the play offs- realistically have been since about the beginning of the year- and somehow, we can't give a guy like Nichols some legit playing time.

And we can't find some unknown scrub PG in the NBDL to give a shot to?
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3/29/2009  12:37 PM
Posted by franco12:
Posted by martin:
Posted by franco12:

Instead, we treat role players like stars (Nate, Lee).

Why do you say this?

Where is TMS when you need him?

You mean you want to know who the 'We' is?


I guess I'm just upset that Walsh & D'Antoni- and I love MDA as a coach, and his style of play- have really lagged in terms of finding some possible supporting cast type guys during the season. They went for Roberson, when they should have waited. We've had roster spots open, and they've taken a long time to act.

And then we're out of the play offs- realistically have been since about the beginning of the year- and somehow, we can't give a guy like Nichols some legit playing time.

And we can't find some unknown scrub PG in the NBDL to give a shot to?

i guess you can't have it both ways. You want to lock Nichols in but you also want us to find an unknown scrub. I think Donnie IS trying to do that with the rotation of DLeaguers coming in and out.

Roberson was obviously a mistake.... and as someone else already suggested, you are willing to make that same mistake with Nichols by signing him for the rest of the season? Just because YOU have not seen him doesn't mean the coaching staff hasn't seen enough during practice.

Still don't know why Nate/Lee reference was made.
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3/29/2009  2:13 PM
Posted by martin:
Posted by franco12:
Posted by martin:
Posted by franco12:

Instead, we treat role players like stars (Nate, Lee).

Why do you say this?

Where is TMS when you need him?

You mean you want to know who the 'We' is?


I guess I'm just upset that Walsh & D'Antoni- and I love MDA as a coach, and his style of play- have really lagged in terms of finding some possible supporting cast type guys during the season. They went for Roberson, when they should have waited. We've had roster spots open, and they've taken a long time to act.

And then we're out of the play offs- realistically have been since about the beginning of the year- and somehow, we can't give a guy like Nichols some legit playing time.

And we can't find some unknown scrub PG in the NBDL to give a shot to?

i guess you can't have it both ways. You want to lock Nichols in but you also want us to find an unknown scrub. I think Donnie IS trying to do that with the rotation of DLeaguers coming in and out.

Roberson was obviously a mistake.... and as someone else already suggested, you are willing to make that same mistake with Nichols by signing him for the rest of the season? Just because YOU have not seen him doesn't mean the coaching staff hasn't seen enough during practice.

Still don't know why Nate/Lee reference was made.

For effect?

Really, what we have in Lee & Nate are really great role players. But, the way they get featured and hyped and talked up, they're treated like 'stars'.
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3/30/2009  9:02 AM
I like the bringing up of 4 D-Leaguers. It's smart to look at all of these guys.

Crawford can be very good - for now!. We do need some back-up at the 2, so why not bring up a guy who is scoring 20.8 pts/game in the D-League. Even if he doesn't play he is useful in practice and he is backup in case someone else gets injured. The season is gone, so this is also an evaluation for next year.

Demetrius Nichols - Why the love affair with DM?? In the 2 years he has been in the league, he has been given chances by Cleveland, Chicago, and twice with the Knicks. He is not "young for a second year player - 24 years old. I believe he played through his senior year in college so it isn't like he needs time to develop.He just isn't that good.
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