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fishmike
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3/5/2009  7:59 AM
4 points and GS got smoked by Chicago

Gallinari? 17 points.

Just sayin
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3/5/2009  8:02 AM
Posted by fishmike:

4 points and GS got smoked by Chicago

Gallinari? 17 points.

Just sayin

You forgot to mention he added 10 rebounds and 2 blocks while only playing 14 minutes. Just saying
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fishmike
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3/5/2009  8:12 AM
well... somebody has to catch the ball when it clangs off the rim.
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3/5/2009  8:15 AM
I really really like Randolph and do wonder what he will amount to. HE is clearly a different player than Gallo and it's a bit unfair to compare them. Randolph is a better rebounder more than likely and defintely a better shot blocker and defender. I think both guys can finish but Gallo just absolutely smokes him with maturity, IQ, awareness and shooting. To me Gallo's game goes way beyond the stats, you see that when you watch him play. I don't know that Randolph (or most bigs) will have the kind of touch, moves and IQ for such a big guy but it's going to take 3 - 5 years to really know. I don't know how much Randolph has helped GS but it is clear (beyond the +-, where Gallo is highest on the team) that Gallo has clearly helped in the Wins column.

I'm happy we got Gallo but Randolph was probably my other wish next to the PG OKC got. (forget his name, but he was gone before we picked).
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3/5/2009  8:23 AM
mostly I was busting briggs balls. I am open minded to most prospects. I do not like Randolph because there is one guy in the league right now built like him and that Tayshaun Prince. If the guy was a mad shooter then OK, but we are talking about SF/PF prospect built like Kate Moss. The way Tim Thomas dunked on him was embarrassing.

Also I am a big fan of guys that know how to play and I think Gallo knows how to play. He's not afraid to attack the basket as he showed with some nice drives last night and he can create space with that killer j hes got as well. He's not going to the among the NBA's elite athletes but he's a good athlete and the furthest thing from the plodding white Euro guy.

Give him a chance.
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3/5/2009  8:47 AM
Posted by fishmike:

mostly I was busting briggs balls. I am open minded to most prospects. I do not like Randolph because there is one guy in the league right now built like him and that Tayshaun Prince. If the guy was a mad shooter then OK, but we are talking about SF/PF prospect built like Kate Moss. The way Tim Thomas dunked on him was embarrassing.

Also I am a big fan of guys that know how to play and I think Gallo knows how to play. He's not afraid to attack the basket as he showed with some nice drives last night and he can create space with that killer j hes got as well. He's not going to the among the NBA's elite athletes but he's a good athlete and the furthest thing from the plodding white Euro guy.

Give him a chance.

Trust me, I knew just who's balls you were busting from the Title. Briggs' giveth and he must taketh, but I mostly respect him even with his recent bouts of Knick driven senility (kidding Briggs). ehehe
Anyway, I'm a huge fan of Gallo, he is the most complete guy we've had in a while and quite uniqe. I still like Randolph lots, but your point about him being so thin is a really good one that I forgot to consider. It is going to take him a really long time to put weight on that frame of his, if ever.

Oh, check my brief astrological reading of him in the highlights video. His chart does show something special

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3/5/2009  8:59 AM
he's not one dimensional. He can get to the FT line. He can put the ball on the floor and push it. He's got great passing skills. He's aggressive on defense. It took Turkoglu a long time to become a bigtime player but he is one now.

Gallo is very skilled and will be a good player in this league. The only concern is if we drafted a guy with a balky back. THAT is a big problem and the only problem I can see with taking him. The other guys are much bigger crap shoots. Taking a 6'10 player with the skills he has at 6 doesnt seem like too big a stretch.

I just hope he stays healthy because I think he can really be a good player.
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3/5/2009  9:07 AM
Posted by fishmike:

mostly I was busting briggs balls. I am open minded to most prospects. I do not like Randolph because there is one guy in the league right now built like him and that Tayshaun Prince. If the guy was a mad shooter then OK, but we are talking about SF/PF prospect built like Kate Moss. The way Tim Thomas dunked on him was embarrassing.

Also I am a big fan of guys that know how to play and I think Gallo knows how to play. He's not afraid to attack the basket as he showed with some nice drives last night and he can create space with that killer j hes got as well. He's not going to the among the NBA's elite athletes but he's a good athlete and the furthest thing from the plodding white Euro guy.

Give him a chance.

I don't think he could be more opposite of Tayshaun Price if he tried. I don't think weighing 200 pounds is a detriment to him. He's wiry strong and wired when he plays. He cant shoot like Gallo[and it's obvious Gallo is one helluva shooter] but I think he will be superior in every other aspect. The key to Gallo is shooting like last night consistently when they start to pay attention to him. He was very wide open for most of his shots but hey the kid is a marksman.
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3/5/2009  9:07 AM
Fishmike, I am giving Gallo a chance too and I like him. I STILL would have taken Randolph or maybe even Joe Alexander ahead of him. However, Gallo seems to have a rare skillset and a great attitude and busts his butt every night. Nothing wrong with that, and to say the least, he'll become a very solid player.
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3/5/2009  9:21 AM
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by fishmike:

mostly I was busting briggs balls. I am open minded to most prospects. I do not like Randolph because there is one guy in the league right now built like him and that Tayshaun Prince. If the guy was a mad shooter then OK, but we are talking about SF/PF prospect built like Kate Moss. The way Tim Thomas dunked on him was embarrassing.

Also I am a big fan of guys that know how to play and I think Gallo knows how to play. He's not afraid to attack the basket as he showed with some nice drives last night and he can create space with that killer j hes got as well. He's not going to the among the NBA's elite athletes but he's a good athlete and the furthest thing from the plodding white Euro guy.

Give him a chance.

I don't think he could be more opposite of Tayshaun Price if he tried. I don't think weighing 200 pounds is a detriment to him. He's wiry strong and wired when he plays. He cant shoot like Gallo[and it's obvious Gallo is one helluva shooter] but I think he will be superior in every other aspect. The key to Gallo is shooting like last night consistently when they start to pay attention to him. He was very wide open for most of his shots but hey the kid is a marksman.

But Briggs, being wiry thin will really kill him at times on defense, man to man in particular. As a help defender he will get his blocks as it won't matter much.

And you say superior in every other aspect? Come on, rethink that.

So, you are saying then that Randolph has:
More IQ than Gallo ? - Clearly that is not the case, not even close. I'm not saying he is knucklehead, but he is definitely not superior in one of the most important parts.
Passing - I doubt that Randolph will ever have the passing and court vision that Gallo does.
Help defense - Maybe Gallo won't block shots as often as Randolph, but he knows what is happening all over the court and so far has shown to be much more aware, but perhaps we can call this a part of his IQ.
Handle - Gallo has a great handle, I'm not sure Randolph will have one that good, but I don't know that much about Randolph
On court communication - Gallo has been incredible for a rookie so far, not sure on Randolph.

You are right, teams will adjust to Gallo, but it seems like that adjustment was started to be made a while ago when he came out pretty strong just sitting on the line. But, we know he can take it to the hoop against big men and has some good moves as well as a GREAT handle.
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3/5/2009  9:24 AM
Posted by Allanfan20:

Fishmike, I am giving Gallo a chance too and I like him. I STILL would have taken Randolph or maybe even Joe Alexander ahead of him. However, Gallo seems to have a rare skillset and a great attitude and busts his butt every night. Nothing wrong with that, and to say the least, he'll become a very solid player.

I can totally see taking Randolph ahead of Gallo, especially since he was hurt for so long. It's a bit hard to make the comparison with that in mind. GS isn't a very good team and Nelson was not impressed with Randolphs maturity. I would strongly strongly disagree regarding Alexander though, and I think his play has shown him to be in a different category, thus far anyway.
Really, it's going to take a few years to judge this one, but it's looking good of late.
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3/5/2009  10:23 AM
I didn't know a ton about Randolph or Gallo before the draft but based on the information I knew I was hoping they would take Randolph. They didn't so we move on. I think it's clear that both players need to develop their bodies, minds and skill set before they have a major impact. But both seem to have some potential. No GM is going to get the best player in the draft every year so if someone drafted after Gallo turns out to be a stud and Gallo turns out to only be a good player, it sucks, but you live with it and be happy that you at least have a good player. If he turns out to be a bumb, then you rue the day.
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3/5/2009  11:16 AM
briggs... you like size and hops with your prospects. Good qualities to look for in the NBA draft. AR's build is a huge hinderence. He's a tall Crawford. He's never filling out. That means your best bet is he's a 2/3/4 Tayshawn Prince like player. Only problem is the dude can shoot and doesnt have near the skills or BBIQ that Prince has. Thats a big gamble for 6. There is one frontcourt player in the league with this guy's build. Sure, molds are meant to be broken but thats a massive gamble at 6.

He makes Camby look like Shaq... he's got a tiny chest and tiny shoulders. He's never putting much muscle on that frame.

I liked Joe Alexander, but he has been very unimpressive so far. After that who was out there? Bayless and Gordon? A pair of undersized shooting guards when you have Nate on the roster allready. I think the only real arguement over Gallo is Brook Lopez. And look at him... a 7 footer in the pac-10 who averaged like 8 boards and shot well under 50%.

If I could do it all over again I would take Lopez and see what he and Lee look like together over a 50 game stretch. that being said there were some very good reasons to pass on Lopez.
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