Posted by EwingsGlass:

1) Does this really need a new thread?
2) If you take out James and Wade there really aren't any "superstars" in the 2010 class. That's like saying "what's 1 + 1--and don't say two... Rating the top 5 players in the NBA, you have some combination of Bryant/James/Paul/Wade/Howard. I think to win a championship within the next 5 years, you either need one of these guys and at least a second all star like Pau Gasol, or you need three all-stars (like the Celtics). Anything less will not make the conference finals. Bosh, Johnson, Stoudemire are all good secondary all-stars, but I don't think a combination of two of those players wins a championship without a third all-star caliber player. Say what you will, I think you have to disregard the statements these players are making to the media about staying vs. going... it would be stupid to say you are going when there are still 16 months left on your contract. NY might as well swing for the fences and try to get both James and Wade. After that, you can fill in the roster with vets and be fine. You think Odom would play for the MLE? I think he (or some other all star caliber player) is more likely to do that if you have at least one top 5 player on the team already.
3) Betting on the draft doesn't really provide winners. Of the teams that have rebuilt through the draft, most have needed the #1 draft pick to succeed. If you are talking pipe dreams, I think it is more of a pipe dream to think that some draft pick will randomly turn the franchise around. Maybe James, Wade or some other combination don't come here... if they don't it will be a disappointment, but given the possibility of both James and Wade here in NY, you have to give that your best shot... Lee and Robinson aren't going to win it all, even if you add Lamar Odom and Hasheem Thabeet and Jeff Teague.

Posted by EwingsGlass:

1) Does this really need a new thread?
2) If you take out James and Wade there really aren't any "superstars" in the 2010 class. That's like saying "what's 1 + 1--and don't say two... Rating the top 5 players in the NBA, you have some combination of Bryant/James/Paul/Wade/Howard. I think to win a championship within the next 5 years, you either need one of these guys and at least a second all star like Pau Gasol, or you need three all-stars (like the Celtics). Anything less will not make the conference finals. Bosh, Johnson, Stoudemire are all good secondary all-stars, but I don't think a combination of two of those players wins a championship without a third all-star caliber player. Say what you will, I think you have to disregard the statements these players are making to the media about staying vs. going... it would be stupid to say you are going when there are still 16 months left on your contract. NY might as well swing for the fences and try to get both James and Wade. After that, you can fill in the roster with vets and be fine. You think Odom would play for the MLE? I think he (or some other all star caliber player) is more likely to do that if you have at least one top 5 player on the team already.
3) Betting on the draft doesn't really provide winners. Of the teams that have rebuilt through the draft, most have needed the #1 draft pick to succeed. If you are talking pipe dreams, I think it is more of a pipe dream to think that some draft pick will randomly turn the franchise around. Maybe James, Wade or some other combination don't come here... if they don't it will be a disappointment, but given the possibility of both James and Wade here in NY, you have to give that your best shot... Lee and Robinson aren't going to win it all, even if you add Lamar Odom and Hasheem Thabeet and Jeff Teague.

Posted by TMS:

Lamar Odom

Posted by Cosmic:

Posted by Bonn1997:

Posted by TMS:

Lamar Odom

Zach Randolph

And Jamal Crawford! The summer of 2011 is going to be awesome for those that still can't get over the fact that Isiah failed here and are reaming Walsh for tearing down his incredibly successful roster! I mean, those players were so good, I can't believe we didn't let them guide us to another 23 to 33 win season! I am just perplexed on how Walsh couldn't turn Isiah's gold into the NBA's elite this past deadline. What a failure!

Summer of 2011, baby, we will extend Eddy Curry and sign Crawford and Randolph to MAX DEALS. Knicks 2011-2012 NBA CHAMPS BABY!

No, wait, I have a better idea, let's keep tearing down the mess that never worked, and when that's complete come July 2010, we can then begin to build a new team.

The best way to get faster wouldve been hiring Mark Jackson and trying to win 15 games for a couple of years ON top of trying to gain cap space. This way we try to find our OWN superstar type talent instead of putting our eggs in one basket. We accept mediocrity--in fact the team is built on the premise of being fair--being able to compete but just not good enough playing at the hardest level they can every night.

There is a point that is going to come SOON that we will be faced by serious decision of two of our top three players Lee and Nate and then AL the following year.

IF we were rebuilding--we would NOT have moved WC out of the starting line up in place of Hughes--no one can tell me that's rebuilding--simply because Chandler earned the spot.