[ IMAGES: Images ON turn off | ACCOUNT: User Status is LOCKED why? ]

Randolph says the knicks shouldnt have traded him.....
Forum Index  ›  NY Knicks Forum
Page 1 of 4  1  2  3 Next ›Last »
« Reply To Topic
Author Thread
Knickss208
Posts: 20167
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 11/13/2004
Member: #796
2/12/2009  11:51 AM
I cant believe the audacity of this article by Marc Berman in the New York Post. I am officially done with the New York Post. Alan Hahn is by far a superior writer and gets it. Berman would always talk about how the chemistry wasnt good with Randolph on the knicks. They signed him to a crazy contract with no proven leadership or winning experience. Now that Randolph has his usual double double and a win against the knicks according to him management are fools for letting him go. Screw that! It was the right move. I couldnt imagine keeping that garbage player on until 2012. With Randolph gone look at what David Lee has flourished into.

Im so irritated by that article. I cant stand it and will never read Marc Berman again.
AUTOADVERT
sebstar
Posts: 25698
Alba Posts: 4
Joined: 6/2/2002
Member: #249
USA
2/12/2009  12:05 PM
Homeboy is averaging 23 a game...he has a right to wolf. Trust me, I understand completely Walsh's [Clyde] motivation and justification [/Clyde] for the deal, but damn, all we could get for a low post stud is Tim Thomas?

I blame the Ultimate Knicks mentality. People get too carried away with devaluing our own players and exalting virtually everyone else that wears a different colored jersey.

We could have at least got a pick, or a mid-level prospect. At least.
My saliva and spit can split thread into fiber and bits/ So trust me I'm as live as it gets. --Royce Da 5'9 + DJ Premier = Hip Hop Utopia
franco12
Posts: 34069
Alba Posts: 4
Joined: 2/19/2004
Member: #599
USA
2/12/2009  12:08 PM
when it was evident that Mobley wouldn't play- and that was after he failed the physical- we should have either pulled collins or asked for much more in terms of a pick.

I'm not sure Walsh could have gotten more, and he might have jumped at the first offer he got. I can't fault him, as I am not sure any other offers would have surfaced.
JrZyHuStLa
Posts: 25677
Alba Posts: 3
Joined: 1/5/2007
Member: #1241
2/12/2009  12:11 PM
That's the worst 23 PPG the NBA has ever seen.

No thanks, Zach.
martin
Posts: 79930
Alba Posts: 108
Joined: 7/24/2001
Member: #2
USA
2/12/2009  12:16 PM
Posted by sebstar:

Homeboy is averaging 23 a game...he has a right to wolf. Trust me, I understand completely Walsh's [Clyde] motivation and justification [/Clyde] for the deal, but damn, all we could get for a low post stud is Tim Thomas?

I blame the Ultimate Knicks mentality. People get too carried away with devaluing our own players and exalting virtually everyone else that wears a different colored jersey.

We could have at least got a pick, or a mid-level prospect. At least.

no you couldn't
Official sponsor of the PURE KNICKS LOVE Program
McK1
Posts: 26527
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 7/16/2005
Member: #964
2/12/2009  12:18 PM
should've kept him
the stop underrating David Lee movement 1. FIRE MIKE 2. HIRE MULLIN 3. PAY AVERY 4. FREE NATE!!!
Knickss208
Posts: 20167
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 11/13/2004
Member: #796
2/12/2009  12:19 PM
Please. The point of getting rid of Randolph was to get rid of a bad player and open up the space for 2010. Walsh Im sure wishes that he could have gotten more back, but Im sure the Clippers would have pulled out so he went ahead anyway. It is clear this is a move for 2010. I just hope we can get the players we need to build something for the future. Without that felxibility we wouldnt see a contending knicks team for another 5 years. Its the move that had to be made. PLEASE DONT TELL ME RANDOLPH IS A GOOD PLAYER AND WE WISH WE HAD HIM. HES GARBAGE AND IM HAPPY WE DONT HAVE HIM.

This year is all about the growing pains and making strides for a bright future.

[Edited by - knickss208 on 02-12-2009 12:20 PM]
sebstar
Posts: 25698
Alba Posts: 4
Joined: 6/2/2002
Member: #249
USA
2/12/2009  12:21 PM
Posted by martin:
Posted by sebstar:

Homeboy is averaging 23 a game...he has a right to wolf. Trust me, I understand completely Walsh's [Clyde] motivation and justification [/Clyde] for the deal, but damn, all we could get for a low post stud is Tim Thomas?

I blame the Ultimate Knicks mentality. People get too carried away with devaluing our own players and exalting virtually everyone else that wears a different colored jersey.

We could have at least got a pick, or a mid-level prospect. At least.

no you couldn't

You dont know that. If we tell the clips to piss off and let Zach ball out of control, then magically his value goes up.

We at least give the Blazers Frye, who had mild potential.
My saliva and spit can split thread into fiber and bits/ So trust me I'm as live as it gets. --Royce Da 5'9 + DJ Premier = Hip Hop Utopia
martin
Posts: 79930
Alba Posts: 108
Joined: 7/24/2001
Member: #2
USA
2/12/2009  12:24 PM
Posted by sebstar:
Posted by martin:
Posted by sebstar:

Homeboy is averaging 23 a game...he has a right to wolf. Trust me, I understand completely Walsh's [Clyde] motivation and justification [/Clyde] for the deal, but damn, all we could get for a low post stud is Tim Thomas?

I blame the Ultimate Knicks mentality. People get too carried away with devaluing our own players and exalting virtually everyone else that wears a different colored jersey.

We could have at least got a pick, or a mid-level prospect. At least.

no you couldn't

You dont know that. If we tell the clips to piss off and let Zach ball out of control, then magically his value goes up.

We at least give the Blazers Frye, who had mild potential.

You don't know that.
Official sponsor of the PURE KNICKS LOVE Program
McK1
Posts: 26527
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 7/16/2005
Member: #964
2/12/2009  12:25 PM
Randolph wasn't a bad player, his contract got him traded.

Now all we have to do is sit back and wait for the superstars to fall in Donnie's lap.
the stop underrating David Lee movement 1. FIRE MIKE 2. HIRE MULLIN 3. PAY AVERY 4. FREE NATE!!!
sebstar
Posts: 25698
Alba Posts: 4
Joined: 6/2/2002
Member: #249
USA
2/12/2009  12:27 PM
Posted by martin:
Posted by sebstar:
Posted by martin:
Posted by sebstar:

Homeboy is averaging 23 a game...he has a right to wolf. Trust me, I understand completely Walsh's [Clyde] motivation and justification [/Clyde] for the deal, but damn, all we could get for a low post stud is Tim Thomas?

I blame the Ultimate Knicks mentality. People get too carried away with devaluing our own players and exalting virtually everyone else that wears a different colored jersey.

We could have at least got a pick, or a mid-level prospect. At least.

no you couldn't

You dont know that. If we tell the clips to piss off and let Zach ball out of control, then magically his value goes up.

We at least give the Blazers Frye, who had mild potential.

You don't know that.

23 pts. a game put the preponderance of evidence in my favor. Plus, he isnt acting up any more. Face it, we probably jumped the gun.
My saliva and spit can split thread into fiber and bits/ So trust me I'm as live as it gets. --Royce Da 5'9 + DJ Premier = Hip Hop Utopia
martin
Posts: 79930
Alba Posts: 108
Joined: 7/24/2001
Member: #2
USA
2/12/2009  12:33 PM
Posted by sebstar:
Posted by martin:
Posted by sebstar:
Posted by martin:
Posted by sebstar:

Homeboy is averaging 23 a game...he has a right to wolf. Trust me, I understand completely Walsh's [Clyde] motivation and justification [/Clyde] for the deal, but damn, all we could get for a low post stud is Tim Thomas?

I blame the Ultimate Knicks mentality. People get too carried away with devaluing our own players and exalting virtually everyone else that wears a different colored jersey.

We could have at least got a pick, or a mid-level prospect. At least.

no you couldn't

You dont know that. If we tell the clips to piss off and let Zach ball out of control, then magically his value goes up.

We at least give the Blazers Frye, who had mild potential.

You don't know that.

23 pts. a game put the preponderance of evidence in my favor. Plus, he isnt acting up any more. Face it, we probably jumped the gun.

Add the fact that he was injured and has a contract with $17+M on it puts it back in my favor. Name the teams that have expiring contracts before 2010 and would be willing to take Zach's back? It's not a sellers market.
Official sponsor of the PURE KNICKS LOVE Program
Knickss208
Posts: 20167
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 11/13/2004
Member: #796
2/12/2009  12:34 PM
Posted by martin:
Posted by sebstar:
Posted by martin:
Posted by sebstar:
Posted by martin:
Posted by sebstar:

Homeboy is averaging 23 a game...he has a right to wolf. Trust me, I understand completely Walsh's [Clyde] motivation and justification [/Clyde] for the deal, but damn, all we could get for a low post stud is Tim Thomas?

I blame the Ultimate Knicks mentality. People get too carried away with devaluing our own players and exalting virtually everyone else that wears a different colored jersey.

We could have at least got a pick, or a mid-level prospect. At least.

no you couldn't

You dont know that. If we tell the clips to piss off and let Zach ball out of control, then magically his value goes up.

We at least give the Blazers Frye, who had mild potential.

You don't know that.

23 pts. a game put the preponderance of evidence in my favor. Plus, he isnt acting up any more. Face it, we probably jumped the gun.

Add the fact that he was injured and has a contract with $17+M on it puts it back in my favor. Name the teams that have expiring contracts before 2010 and would be willing to take Zach's back? It's not a sellers market.


EXACTLY!!!
TheGame
Posts: 26651
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 7/15/2006
Member: #1154
USA
2/12/2009  12:37 PM
I have consistently said that we got the worse of the Randolph deal and should have at least demanded a pick or D. Jordan. The Clippers had just lost Brand and Randolph was not making much more than Brand, so it was not like the Clippers were not used to paying that type of money for an all-star caliber PF. We got hosed and it is looking like we got hosed on the 6th pick too because just about ever other player in the top-10 is looking better than D.G.
Trust the Process
buddapaw
Posts: 23213
Alba Posts: 51
Joined: 2/22/2006
Member: #1101
2/12/2009  12:40 PM
Reading the Post is like listening to Charlie Brown's teacher talk. Waw wawa wa wa
"Low Percentage Shots r US, these are our Knicks" "NY KNICKS the cure for basketball fanatic"
BasketballJones
Posts: 31973
Alba Posts: 19
Joined: 7/16/2002
Member: #290
USA
2/12/2009  1:25 PM
Well, we all knew at the time (I think) that trading Randolph and Crawford would make the team worse - the Knicks were not doing that badly at the time, as I recall. I don't think the trade was done to bring in better talent or even better citizens. I thought it all had to do with 2010.

Now, I guess we could argue the merits of the whole 2010 plan, but at least it is a plan, and we should keep it in mind when evaluating Walsh's moves.
https:// It's not so hard.
subzero0
Posts: 21244
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 5/24/2003
Member: #410
2/12/2009  6:37 PM
Posted by sebstar:

Homeboy is averaging 23 a game...he has a right to wolf. Trust me, I understand completely Walsh's [Clyde] motivation and justification [/Clyde] for the deal, but damn, all we could get for a low post stud is Tim Thomas?

I blame the Ultimate Knicks mentality. People get too carried away with devaluing our own players and exalting virtually everyone else that wears a different colored jersey.

We could have at least got a pick, or a mid-level prospect. At least.

Co-signed.
subzero0
Posts: 21244
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 5/24/2003
Member: #410
2/12/2009  6:40 PM
Posted by McK1:

should've kept him

Im with you Mck1!
subzero0
Posts: 21244
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 5/24/2003
Member: #410
2/12/2009  6:47 PM
Posted by BasketballJones:

Well, we all knew at the time (I think) that trading Randolph and Crawford would make the team worse - the Knicks were not doing that badly at the time, as I recall. I don't think the trade was done to bring in better talent or even better citizens. I thought it all had to do with 2010.

Now, I guess we could argue the merits of the whole 2010 plan, but at least it is a plan, and we should keep it in mind when evaluating Walsh's moves.

So let me get your logic straight. Your saying that by knowingly making the team worse we will look better in the eyes of the free agents we are trying to attract? My next question, WHAT THE HELL WORLD YOU LIVE IN MAN??
GKFv2
Posts: 26752
Alba Posts: 114
Joined: 1/16/2007
Member: #1259
USA
2/12/2009  6:56 PM
Yeah, Zach has impacted the 13-40 Clippers so much. So many people were after him when we traded him for garbage. We should have tried to get Eric Gordon from the Clippers for superstar Zach. Zach Randolph - the Ricky Davis of PF's. Antoine Walker with better rebounding. Zach Randolph no longer plays on this team so do yourselves a favor and move on. What's done is done.
Thank you, Rick Brunson.
Page 1 of 4  1  2  3 Next ›Last »
« Reply To Topic
Randolph says the knicks shouldnt have traded him.....
Forum Index  ›  NY Knicks Forum

©2001-2025 ultimateknicks.comm All rights reserved. About Us.
This site is not affiliated with the NY Knicks or the National Basketball Association in any way.
You may visit the official NY Knicks web site by clicking here.

All times (GMT-05:00) Eastern Time.

Terms of Use and Privacy Policy