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11/5/2003  9:40 PM
Posted by martin:

I don't know, maybe the Knicks are playing Ward and Harrington to increase their trade value. That's gotta be it.

Or maybe the organization is positioning for a high draft pick already.
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11/5/2003  9:41 PM
Even more discouraging than the Orlando collapse. Here they had no fight. Then, it looked like they were tight because they were trying too hard. I hate watching a team lose like this and no one's even pissed off.
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11/5/2003  9:41 PM
Here's my conspiracy theory - the Knicks org wants to lose more games and get another high lottery pick.

How will they lose? By keeping Chaney as coach (Sorry Don - I hung in long after others gave up on you.)
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11/5/2003  9:41 PM
Posted by martin:
Posted by martin:

I don't know, maybe the Knicks are playing Ward and Harrington to increase their trade value. That's gotta be it.

Or maybe the organization is positioning for a high draft pick already.

LOL
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11/5/2003  9:44 PM
Bucks should have been burned out tonight
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11/5/2003  9:45 PM
Posted by CanadianKnicksFan:

Bucks should have been burned out tonight

Absolutly...the Knicks just didn't put them away.
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11/5/2003  9:45 PM
I think it is bad coaching -- maybe not just Chaney.
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11/5/2003  9:58 PM
The substitution patterns in this game were miserable. NY up 13 at the end of 1. Mutombo comes out, lead at half is 6. NY goes on a run mid 2nd quarter, Mutombo comes out, NY loses by 16! NY had no interior presence after the 1st quarter! Why get Deke if you are not going to use him? Spoon is a joke. harrington is not the answer, trade him now for whatever you can get.

Playa, how was that D tonight? How was the O after the 1st quarter? The only reason it was good early was due to Houston. when it counted the offense was lost and predictable.

the Bucks played a tough game last night and they looked more ready to play than NY. Once again, COACHING!

Chaney must go!
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11/5/2003  10:10 PM
When Chaney pulled Mutombo fo rthe game, the Bucks stopped playing their big men too. They went small and out speeded NY. When Deke was there nY outsized them and dominated. Chaney lost this game too.

The man cannot coach a game. Please let Malone take over.

I am calling for Anyone to coach this team besides NON-Chaney!
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11/5/2003  10:16 PM
Once again Coaching was the problem.i dont expect Harrington n Weatherspoon becoming big defensive threats and offensive boards at the end of the game to allow the Knicks to make a come back.does MUTOMBO ring a bell, Chaney,HELLLLLO.
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11/5/2003  10:24 PM
It's obvious to all who have eyes that can see that Mutumbo is the key on defense, well he didn't play so we had none. Chaney allowed the Bucks to dictate on what lineups were on the floor. Bad move because defense sparks fast breaks and easy buckets. Ward was embarrassed by T J FORD Tonight.
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11/5/2003  10:29 PM
Did Doleac have an injury or something? When teams go small you pound the ball down low and make them play there big men. Uh oh Chaney you have 10 games to learn .
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11/5/2003  10:37 PM
when Mutombo is on the floor the knicks look like a total different team.IMO a playoff team and showed it in the first half.i dont see the reason to sit him down for the whole 4th qt.he has a big presence in the middle that can favor the knicks in defence n offense.If anything sit him down in the 3rd. but not the 4th.
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11/5/2003  10:42 PM
Kukoc was a huge problem for the Knicks tonight. After he came in the Knicks couldn't find a matchup that worked for them.
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11/5/2003  10:46 PM
I don't want to blame the loss on Weatherspoon but -- Motumbo is playing well, Doleac is playing well -- why play Weatherspoon?

How about running some plays for Keith Van Horn? It's pretty obvious that you have to consciously involve him in the game or he'll fade away.

And if you're an assistant coach, wouldn't you advise Don Chaney to put Motumbo or Doleac back in?

[Edited by - knickgeek on 11/05/2003 22:47:58]
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11/5/2003  11:06 PM
Fouls and TO's...
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11/5/2003  11:15 PM
Posted by GoNyGoNyGo:

Chaney lost this game too.

So what does this make it, Chaney 1-3, Knicks possible 3-1?
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11/5/2003  11:34 PM
I used to defend chaney but the guy is a idiot, his substitution patterns stink, this is why I say we should let sweetney and lampe play, chaney brings in Anderson and spoon and we take a nosedive, Anderson throws a pass that hits the rim, falls into spoons hands and he fumbles it out of bounds, How much worse can the rookies do..

We just lost to a bad bucks team, Ford, mason and Haislip can't shoot, so why not just lay off them, then force Kucoc and redd to drive into mutombo, but then again, chaney had our intimidator on the bench.. what a bafoon!!!
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11/6/2003  1:45 AM
Only an idiot would use the same C PF combination in the 4th quarter that lost us so many games last year. When i saw Weatherspoon enter the game i lost it, cause i knew EXACTLY what was going to happen. I could see the same haunting images in my mind over and over again

--The ball goes to weatherspoon but he bobbles the ball out of bounds
--or the ball in to weatherspoon who dunks... but is blocked from behind
--or how about weatherspoon baseline jumper... off the rim and into the hands of (insert team name here).

I dont care how much we pay him or how many games he "saved" us in last year, he belongs on the IL and does not deserve playing time.
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11/6/2003  2:38 AM
Maybe if I say it enough times, it'll happen...

Spoon needs to be traded!
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