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knicks1248
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2/3/2009  7:47 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/04/sports/basketball/04lebron.html?partner=rssnyt&emc=rss

Its so important to have some very good players on our roster cause frankly, like i have been saying forever, we will need to sign and trade to get any so call superstar to leave a team. So in a way, signing Nate and Lee to some decent size contracts that will be able to trade will be the only way we land any of the top 5 FA in 2k10. We maybe be able to sign a joe johnson or a borderline (Think LJ H20) superstar. That article explains everything, Were living a pipe dream.
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2/3/2009  8:15 PM
No it wasn't.
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2/3/2009  8:43 PM
Posted by knicks1248:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/04/sports/basketball/04lebron.html?partner=rssnyt&emc=rss

Its so important to have some very good players on our roster cause frankly, like i have been saying forever, we will need to sign and trade to get any so call superstar to leave a team. So in a way, signing Nate and Lee to some decent size contracts that will be able to trade will be the only way we land any of the top 5 FA in 2k10. We maybe be able to sign a joe johnson or a borderline (Think LJ H20) superstar. That article explains everything, Were living a pipe dream.

Everyone wants to play with perennial superstar and winner Zach Randolph.
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2/3/2009  8:52 PM
while it's true that free agents have more incentive to stay - that incentive goes out the window for LA and NY. that's why Shaq went to LA and that's why someone will come to NY. a big reason no superstar has moved teams in the last few years is that NY and LA haven't had cap room in the last few years. the only time those teams had cap room, LA go Shaq and the Knicks got Houston, Childs and LJ (i believe the LJ trade was facilitated by our ability to take back more salary).

Someone will come. The ZBO trade was very good.... coulda been better if Walsh got something from LAC once Mobley was injured.
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2/3/2009  8:53 PM
Posted by GKFv2:
Posted by knicks1248:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/04/sports/basketball/04lebron.html?partner=rssnyt&emc=rss

Its so important to have some very good players on our roster cause frankly, like i have been saying forever, we will need to sign and trade to get any so call superstar to leave a team. So in a way, signing Nate and Lee to some decent size contracts that will be able to trade will be the only way we land any of the top 5 FA in 2k10. We maybe be able to sign a joe johnson or a borderline (Think LJ H20) superstar. That article explains everything, Were living a pipe dream.

Everyone wants to play with perennial superstar and winner Zach Randolph.

Better still, I could see Cleveland clamoring for Zach in exchange for LBJ!
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2/3/2009  10:52 PM
Posted by GKFv2:
Posted by knicks1248:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/04/sports/basketball/04lebron.html?partner=rssnyt&emc=rss

Its so important to have some very good players on our roster cause frankly, like i have been saying forever, we will need to sign and trade to get any so call superstar to leave a team. So in a way, signing Nate and Lee to some decent size contracts that will be able to trade will be the only way we land any of the top 5 FA in 2k10. We maybe be able to sign a joe johnson or a borderline (Think LJ H20) superstar. That article explains everything, Were living a pipe dream.

Everyone wants to play with perennial superstar and winner Zach Randolph.

[sarc] You don't think the Cavs would trade Lebron for Randolph? [/sarc]

Anyway, just to throw away the concept of keeping Zach "They Scared Now" Randolph, ... contracts don't need to match to do a sign and trade when you are under the cap. We could offer the Cavs draft picks to make them work with us, and not dump bad contracts on them. But without capspace, there is no reason for the Cavs to take us seriously. They need to feel pressure that if they do not trade LBJ to us, he may choose to take the non-bird rights contract.

Second, for those who are calculating the cost difference in a birdrights vs a qualifying FA contract with 7yrs experience, we can simply give LBJ an option year after the fourth year. At that point he could opt out and resign a Bird-Rights Max or whatever crazy amount of dollars are available under the new collective bargaining agreement, or another max contract with a different team at the 10 years+ max (35% of the cap). Coming to NY is not going to be about the Dollars, they can be worked out.



[Edited by - ewingsglass on 02-03-2009 10:53 PM]

[Edited by - ewingsglass on 02-03-2009 11:02 PM]
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2/3/2009  10:54 PM
Of course they would. Why wouldn't Cleveland want to trade their franchise player for the ultra star in Zach Randolph and his little contract.

We did the right thing. Time to move on. The next big move will include Curry and Jeffries.


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2/3/2009  10:56 PM
Posted by Knicksfan:

Of course they would. Why wouldn't Cleveland want to trade their franchise player for the ultra star in Zach Randolph and his little contract.

We did the right thing. Time to move on. The next big move will include Curry and Jeffries.



Yeah, I can't see any scenario that moves Curry without Lee... and I can't see any scenario where we can keep Lee without moving Curry (and have room for two max contracts)... personal issues aside, Curry needs to be in shape for 2009 so we can get him out of here...
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2/3/2009  11:07 PM
Posted by EwingsGlass:
Posted by Knicksfan:

Of course they would. Why wouldn't Cleveland want to trade their franchise player for the ultra star in Zach Randolph and his little contract.

We did the right thing. Time to move on. The next big move will include Curry and Jeffries.



Yeah, I can't see any scenario that moves Curry without Lee... and I can't see any scenario where we can keep Lee without moving Curry (and have room for two max contracts)... personal issues aside, Curry needs to be in shape for 2009 so we can get him out of here...

On a positive note, we used to say the same about being unable to trade Zach unless we included Lee, so, as you say, its extremely important for Curry to come in shape next season so we can trade him then hopefully without any young player included.


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2/4/2009  12:00 AM
Don't worry; We can sign Zach to a max contract in 2010/11 and then use him in a sign and trade for Dwight Howard in 2012. Isiah e-mailed me that plan!
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