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11/1/2003  8:26 PM
Games about to start....Knicks will get a boost with Tony Parker out of the lineup.
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11/1/2003  8:50 PM
Knick defense looks good so far...
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11/1/2003  9:05 PM
Eisley enters and another epic offensive drought ensues.
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11/1/2003  9:06 PM
Why are Allan and KVH sitting on the bench at the same time?
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11/1/2003  9:07 PM
Posted by Andrew:

Eisley enters and another epic offensive drought ensues.
That kid is garbage. Always has been.
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11/1/2003  10:55 PM
It really shows how mediocre our point guards are when the 3rd and 4th string points from San Antonio outplay our first and second string. Play Frank Williams.
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11/1/2003  11:03 PM
What a mess. Didn`t see the game all the way through,was it Bowen guarding KVH?


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11/2/2003  12:23 AM
Don Chaney has to play Frank Williams, Eisely and Ward don't create threats to to the opposing teams, they can't get their teammates open for layups or open shots by continual penetrating kickouts. KT should have been traded and now everybody can see why we don't play SWEETS, dude looks like a smaller version of OLIVER MILLER. Frank seems to have a greater feel for what a point does to get his teammates open.
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11/2/2003  8:21 AM
Sweets is FAT. He needs to go on a major program if he is going to be aplayer in this league. Totally embarrassing! All this being said, he did do any worse than Spoon. The guy they want to trade is Harrington and he is the most effective of all of them
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11/2/2003  9:53 AM
i told you guys that sweets has no hops and is short and will have the most blocked shot in the NBA. this is from watching the guy do summer league play...
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11/2/2003  10:03 AM
The Knicks looked like last year's team. Nothing like vs the Magic. Plenty of fouls, but they themselves didnt get to the line, KVH did pretty pathetic. Its probably gonna be a Spree-Houston seesaw again.

They just didnt have anyone to look for to score. Defense wasnt bad until it completely crumbled somewhere in the 4th or 3rd.

Knicks better get this organized or this is gonna be a notehr crap season.
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11/2/2003  10:11 AM
It seemed thta everyone on the Knicks missed alot of shots last night. We were around 10 down most of the game. I am glad Sweets and FW got a lil burn...

Like I said before, if we don't lose for one reason, it'll be for another. There are too many question marks for any fan of sound mind to ignore.
Another season, and more adversity to persevere through. We will get the job done, even BETTER than last year. GO KNICKS!
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11/2/2003  10:32 AM

NBA Boxscore - New York at San Antonio
Score By Quarters
Team 1 2 3 4 SCORE
New York 17 21 18 18 74
San Antonio 21 27 19 19 86
OFFICIALS: George Toliver, Dick Bavetta, Michael Smith ATTENDANCE: 18797
TIME OF GAME: 2:18
Rebounds
New York MIN FG FGA 3P 3PA FT FTA OR DR TOT A PF ST TO BL PTS
K.Van Horn 45 5 11 0 4 2 2 0 5 5 1 2 2 5 0 12
K.Thomas 20 5 9 0 0 0 0 0 3 3 2 5 0 1 0 10
D.Mutombo 23 3 8 0 0 0 0 3 3 6 1 2 1 0 1 6
C.Ward 32 4 8 1 3 0 0 0 3 3 7 1 2 1 1 9
A.Houston 41 6 16 0 4 7 8 1 2 3 2 4 0 5 0 19
M.Doleac 21 3 8 0 0 2 2 3 4 7 1 3 0 2 0 8
H.Eisley 16 1 5 0 2 2 2 0 0 0 4 4 0 2 0 4
C.Weatherspoo 5 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 2 2 1 0 0 0 0 0
S.Anderson 14 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 2 1 5 0 1 1 0
O.Harrington 14 2 4 0 0 2 2 1 4 5 0 3 0 0 1 6
M.Sweetney 8 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0
F.Williams 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0
TEAM TOTALS 240 29 71 1 13 15 16 8 29 37 20 29 5 18 4 74
PERCENTAGES FG: 40.8% 3PT: 7.7% Ft: 93.8% TEAM REB: 5 TOTAL TO: 18
Another season, and more adversity to persevere through. We will get the job done, even BETTER than last year. GO KNICKS!
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11/2/2003  10:41 AM
Posted by GoNyGoNyGo:

Sweets is FAT. He needs to go on a major program if he is going to be aplayer in this league. Totally embarrassing! All this being said, he did do any worse than Spoon. The guy they want to trade is Harrington and he is the most effective of all of them

Read back what you just wrote. You seem to think that trading means getting rid of your worst guys. If it were that easy, the league would be half teams with all great players and half teams with all the worst players ("I'll trade you Shaq for Travis Knight!"). No one wants Eisley/Spoon/Anderson. We're stuck with them until the final years of their respective contracts. But Harrington could get us someone decent. Keeping him around is meaningless, as he'll never be so good that he'll get substantial minutes with all the undersize PF's we have.

Harrington is tradeable BECAUSE he's better than Spoon, Anderson, etc. You try to get equal value for a decent player at a position that needs the player. In this case, shooting guard.

You trade the guys that other teams want for someone you want. You can't trade what no one wants, unless the contracts are about to expire.
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11/2/2003  11:40 AM
It is so obvious the Ward and Eisley are back ups on this team and would fair better going up against opposing teams backups. So by default we need Frank to PLAY BEFORE THEM just to see what will happen as for creativity on offense.
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11/2/2003  12:01 PM
Bowen did guard KVH....but Chaney seemed to call more plays (or just as many) for Deke as he did for Keith. Frank played 1 minute at the very end of the game. Not any quality minutes at all.
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11/2/2003  5:45 PM
Posted by DefAndReb:
Posted by GoNyGoNyGo:

Sweets is FAT. He needs to go on a major program if he is going to be aplayer in this league. Totally embarrassing! All this being said, he did do any worse than Spoon. The guy they want to trade is Harrington and he is the most effective of all of them

Read back what you just wrote. You seem to think that trading means getting rid of your worst guys. If it were that easy, the league would be half teams with all great players and half teams with all the worst players ("I'll trade you Shaq for Travis Knight!"). No one wants Eisley/Spoon/Anderson. We're stuck with them until the final years of their respective contracts. But Harrington could get us someone decent. Keeping him around is meaningless, as he'll never be so good that he'll get substantial minutes with all the undersize PF's we have.

Harrington is tradeable BECAUSE he's better than Spoon, Anderson, etc. You try to get equal value for a decent player at a position that needs the player. In this case, shooting guard.

You trade the guys that other teams want for someone you want. You can't trade what no one wants, unless the contracts are about to expire.

Yes, you are right. And if harrington is our most tradeable asset, we are in bigger trouble than I thought! If Eisley, Anderson and Spoon are so unwanted, why did Layden give them soooo much money? I say buy them out and go with guys like Jason Hart and other CBA players who are at least hungry!
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11/3/2003  11:57 AM
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