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11/1/2003  5:21 PM
Check these comments from Spree:

"[The Timberwolves] just take it easy, have a whole different mentality. We got great team chemistry. It's not like in New York, where there is a group of Christian guys, a group of guys who are into Hip-Hop, guys into their own little thing. Here, everybody is pretty much on the same page.

"[The Knicks] all played together. [But] when you're in a game that's tied with two or three minutes to go and you're a lot closer to the guys on the floor, having that closeness will allow you to pull those games out at times."

Horribly irresponsible words from your favorite ex-knick. Where does this guy get off? He's one those 'special' people who are convinced that the rules apply to everyone else except them. He doesn't have to show up on time, he's special. He doesn't have to let his employers know about injuring his hand, he's special. He's so special, he doesn't have to show up to shootarounds, he can father 81 children all over Milwalkee, he can blast music on his yacht, and he can choke out a coach. Good riddance.



[Edited by - TRU on 11/01/2003 17:22:26]

[Edited by - TRU on 11/01/2003 21:16:41]
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11/1/2003  6:46 PM
this has got to be the dumbest fuking thread......

The man was speaking the TRUTH! Why don't you post the WHOLE story? you know...the part where he says that he doesn't understand why the Knicks organization are still talking about him....

kind of like fans like you

[Edited by - swishfm3 on 11/01/2003 18:48:35]
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11/1/2003  7:43 PM
Posted by TRU:
Posted by Swishfm3:

this has got to be the dumbest fuking thread......

The man was speaking the TRUTH! Why don't you post the WHOLE story? you know...the part where he says that he doesn't understand why the Knicks organization are still talking about him....

kind of like fans like you

[Edited by - swishfm3 on 11/01/2003 18:48:35]

First off, watch your filthy mouth. This isn't one of the adult sites you probably spend your late evenings trolling around-- this is a fan site, and there are kids viewing your posts.

Second, if you have a contrary opinion, express it intelligently. There's no need to throw around the adjectives if you're bright enough to communicate efficiently.

Third, you responded to the post, so you feel just as comfortable talking about Spree as anyone else.

Finally, Spree played hard for us. But he was never a star. He never averaged more than 17 points, and his absence at the beginning of last season was one of the bigger reasons we were denied a short but sweet playoff appearance. He's never accepted any blame. Barely ever apologized. Everything I've said is corroborated in the article, so you can post the rest of it if it makes you all tingly inside.

[Edited by - TRU on 11/01/2003 19:43:04]
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11/1/2003  7:52 PM
Hey swish, good post. Some fans just blindly follow the Dolan coropate line.

No need to use any more than a quote from Spree himself to dispatch this one...

"I really hate to talk about it. The only thing I'll say is the people here, you guys who watched the games, understand basketball, the fans that understand basketball, they know what I bring to the table. They know what I did for the Knicks. They understand things that I did. That's all that really matters."

Nuff Said.
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11/1/2003  8:48 PM
Posted by HARDCOREKNICKSFAN:

Hey swish, good post. Some fans just blindly follow the Dolan coropate line.

No need to use any more than a quote from Spree himself to dispatch this one...

"I really hate to talk about it. The only thing I'll say is the people here, you guys who watched the games, understand basketball, the fans that understand basketball, they know what I bring to the table. They know what I did for the Knicks. They understand things that I did. That's all that really matters."

Nuff Said.

You guys are buggin'. I'll never understand the love affair with that dude. He shot terribly, lost a few steps, scored less, and was a pain in the ass. I guess some fans are just blind to facts when they idolize a player so fervently.

[Edited by - TRU on 11/01/2003 21:16:03]
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11/2/2003  12:17 AM
Tru is called Thug life ,when he scowled after a dunk , some of the fans here thought he was a Rucker park player or something. This is the true Sprewell that people liked so glad he's gone mr 4-18 fg
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11/2/2003  1:06 PM
You guys are buggin'. I'll never understand the love affair with that dude. He shot terribly, lost a few steps, scored less, and was a pain in the ass. I guess some fans are just blind to facts when they idolize a player so fervently.

Spree is an attractive figure for many people and he was pretty good that first year when the Knicks made the finals. Then, the next year, when the Knicks lost to Indiana, he started sowing dissent - saying "We're better without Patrick". That's when I realized that he can be a corrosive influence.

We all know what happened next.

It's not about basketball with some people. Iit's about popularity. People think Spree is cool.

[Edited by - knickgeek on 11/02/2003 13:07:21]
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11/2/2003  1:15 PM
Posted by TRU:
Posted by HARDCOREKNICKSFAN:

Hey swish, good post. Some fans just blindly follow the Dolan coropate line.

No need to use any more than a quote from Spree himself to dispatch this one...

"I really hate to talk about it. The only thing I'll say is the people here, you guys who watched the games, understand basketball, the fans that understand basketball, they know what I bring to the table. They know what I did for the Knicks. They understand things that I did. That's all that really matters."

Nuff Said.

You guys are buggin'. I'll never understand the love affair with that dude. He shot terribly, lost a few steps, scored less, and was a general pain in the butt. I guess some fans are just blind to facts when they idolize a player so fervently.

[Edited by - TRU on 11/01/2003 21:16:03]
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11/2/2003  6:41 PM
the two spree haters are laughable, not cause they hate spree but the reason they use to illustrate it.

Two guys probably stealing coporate time at work to post about the personal issues of Latrell Spewell. lol funny stuff.

Look fellas it's all about the game, people who talk about trading some one cause they have a ilegitamite kid makes me laugh.

First off you dont know the man, you dont even the the people that write reports on the man, Second i bet your crap stinks too.

Sprewell, cool? what is it a popularity contest, next your going to say we like him cause he is cute. lemme tell you one thing, my name is Iceman and i can eat your food any day of the week, if you get upset of my rebuttal. Your weak post about people liking spree cause he is cool is so limp it needs two Viagra pills.

Sports is all about results, and desire and no matter how cool you are, or how good looking you are, or how many media people give you good write ups cause all your kids are born IN WEDLOCK, you will never win fans over until you produce results and show desire.

sprewell never averaged more than 17?? what a naive way of looking at things, and let it be known THE ICEMAN IS NOT PRO SPREWELL, I AM PRO KNICKS. But if i come past ignorance I crush it like a jelly bean. I guess guarding all the best players and playing out of position doesnt matter huh well if not let me tell you why the fans liked spree.

couldnt dribble much, shooting was erratic, but the mother f'er cared, he wasnt out there just picking up a check like so many knicks, this dude was fighting, every single night. yeah he missed some practices, yeah he was late. i cant excuse that, but lets not confuse it with vince carter, it never effected his play. right now we got a whole team of guys just picking up a check. i think a few guys care but most of them cant stand up.

Like i said i aint a blind spree lover, he stunk it up plenty, but him commenting on the atmosphere in the garden, i'm not going to act like he aint right.

Come on you got to be a Warrior to win a NBA championship,Can anyone find one warrior in this team, what Houston, horne? othella? Frank? Eisley? WARD? anderson? Weather spoon?? lololo Doleac?

Ok maybe Thomas, but he is too stupid.

I dont view this site often but you two moral Saints want to get it on with me ask around, the moderators know the time, playa knows the time, ask for my site and come into my house, and i will reject your weakness like my name was Bill russell. my guess in a week this site will be so quiet you can hear a rat piss on cotton by january.

peace
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11/2/2003  7:33 PM
Two guys probably stealing coporate time at work to post about the personal issues of Latrell Spewell. lol funny stuff.

Dude, look at the dates.
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11/2/2003  8:50 PM
Don't mind him knickgeek he gets angry real easy.

[Edited by - playa2 on 11/03/2003 07:26:03]
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11/2/2003  10:15 PM
Posted by ARES:

the two spree haters are laughable, not cause they hate spree but the reason they use to illustrate it.

Two guys probably stealing coporate time at work to post about the personal issues of Latrell Spewell. lol funny stuff.

Look fellas it's all about the game, people who talk about trading some one cause they have a ilegitamite kid makes me laugh.

First off you dont know the man, you dont even the the people that write reports on the man, Second i bet your crap stinks too.

Sprewell, cool? what is it a popularity contest, next your going to say we like him cause he is cute. lemme tell you one thing, my name is Iceman and i can eat your food any day of the week, if you get upset of my rebuttal. Your weak post about people liking spree cause he is cool is so limp it needs two Viagra pills.

Sports is all about results, and desire and no matter how cool you are, or how good looking you are, or how many media people give you good write ups cause all your kids are born IN WEDLOCK, you will never win fans over until you produce results and show desire.

sprewell never averaged more than 17?? what a naive way of looking at things, and let it be known THE ICEMAN IS NOT PRO SPREWELL, I AM PRO KNICKS. But if i come past ignorance I crush it like a jelly bean. I guess guarding all the best players and playing out of position doesnt matter huh well if not let me tell you why the fans liked spree.

couldnt dribble much, shooting was erratic, but the mother f'er cared, he wasnt out there just picking up a check like so many knicks, this dude was fighting, every single night. yeah he missed some practices, yeah he was late. i cant excuse that, but lets not confuse it with vince carter, it never effected his play. right now we got a whole team of guys just picking up a check. i think a few guys care but most of them cant stand up.

Like i said i aint a blind spree lover, he stunk it up plenty, but him commenting on the atmosphere in the garden, i'm not going to act like he aint right.

Come on you got to be a Warrior to win a NBA championship,Can anyone find one warrior in this team, what Houston, horne? othella? Frank? Eisley? WARD? anderson? Weather spoon?? lololo Doleac?

Ok maybe Thomas, but he is too stupid.

I dont view this site often but you two moral Saints want to get it on with me ask around, the moderators know the time, playa knows the time, ask for my site and come into my house, and i will reject your weakness like my name was Bill russell. my guess in a week this site will be so quiet you can hear a rat piss on cotton by january.

peace

Dog, you need therapy--and soon.

"Iceman," you're right about a couple things. I appreciated your boy's effort. But sports isn't "all about results." Nothing is ever really "all about results" in this world-- particularly not how you play a sport, how you live your life as a man, and how much your respect and embrace your responsibilities.

It's just poor form to start running your mouth like a little girl after you're traded. Is that how you live your life? Were you the type, after one of your unsophisticated advances toward some girl was uncermoniously rejected, to start complaining about how "she wasn't that pretty anyway"? C'mon... even you have to admit that this isn't the most mature way to go about things-- the guys a punk. A punk that played hard, and left it all on the court most nights, but still a punk. Now if he was a superstar punk, with a more impressive average and stats that weren't in decline, then maybe putting up with the attitude would have been worth it.

Feel free to 'eat my food' any time your free. I ain't never heard of ya (I'm relatively new here), so you're going to have to fill me in.


[Edited by - TRU on 11/02/2003 22:17:48]

[Edited by - TRU on 11/02/2003 22:19:09]
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11/2/2003  10:22 PM
Posted by knickgeek:
Two guys probably stealing coporate time at work to post about the personal issues of Latrell Spewell. lol funny stuff.

Dude, look at the dates.

What the hell is "coporate time" anyway? Where would I steal it from? Do they offer spelling lessons there?
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11/3/2003  7:33 AM
Tru, ARES aka ICE likes to "TRY" to intimidate people. He's almost banned on this site and has been sent packing on many occasions. If you really want to know him , just think of a thug who wants to gather a following on the net. He has some points at times , but then he gets sooo angry you kind of wonder if his elevator goes all the way to top. Now back to basketball!
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11/3/2003  11:07 AM
What I don't get is why people are coming down on Spree for his comments but not on Dolan for his. Dolan's allowed to impugn Spree's character ... suggesting he's evil or immoral because he doesn't toe the corporate line ... while Spree takes heat for responding that the team wasn't close-knit. Seems Spree's been pretty tame in his response to me. Sure, he would been better off taking the high road and not responding at all, but the real lack of class is Dolan's ... attacking a former employee he's already sent packing.

In terms of basketball, Spree was a star for the Knicks. He had tremendous heart and would go on tears where he dominated, but he wasn't consistent or great enough to help them become a good team and he's also clearly on the downside of his career. So, yes, trade him. But then show some class and and acknowledge he'll be missed.
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11/3/2003  11:20 AM
i don't know. i may be wrong but did'nt spree avg. 19 ppg his all-star season? well anyway he was'nt the best person. that is true. but on the court he did what he can. i thought he was done after the 01-02 season when he, and everyone else was going through the motions. i expected the same last year. then he came back fired up and with the same attitude. no, he could'nt run up and down the court like before or dunk and scowl the way he used to but he gave his all. i think he was probably tired of being the only one doing so. maybe that is why he said what he said. he gave his all by playing out of position and not making much of a fuss or playing hurt because his team needed him. he also was a leader on the court and made sure no one gave up. i remember the lakers game last year at the garden. the lakers were killing the knicks in the first half and spree got posterized by bryant. any average player would lose their fire and get progressively worse. but spree rallied the tropps in the second half and gave the lakers a legit scare. now i saw the spurs game the other night and they were sleepwalking with no sense of aggressiveness or urgency.

lets get back to spree's personal life. i agree with barkley. there is no reason that an nba player or any sport figure for that matter are role models. i am a parent and would be embarassed if my son said that he looked up to james, jordan or whoever instead of me or his teachers. so this whole character thing is ridiculous. i mean it is not like he was arrested with weed multiple times or slapping a cop. he makes mistakes like everyone else but that is his life. i thought of him as a knicks player only not as a role model for the kids in the world.
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11/6/2003  1:53 PM
Theraphy??

i think not, Get to know me, we may agree on numerous topics. I have raised playa up as a man, before me he was a coward a butt kisser, i had him going as a real person but he lost his way and as you see he is trying to kiss your butt.

If, you want to talk about Spree as the man, than you have a valid point. Maybe spree needs to grow up in certain parts of his life. But you are definetly on the outside looking in, being you dont know spree, you probably never spoke to him or anyone that knows him, and i bet you dont even know any of his detractors.

I think thats called impartial , bias, you get the point

maybe you need to do your home work before you start judging, that kind of takes you down to the level that you are criticizing.

AT least thats what my therapist says.

now when you generalize why fans like him, or miss him, i gave you a word that will be reinforced the more knick games you watch

I dont mind getting rid of spree, i think we could of did it smarter.

EFFORT

you might not see alot of that from the knicks

by the way, going after spelling on a internet forum, thats so 1999. I am not a secretary my typing sucks, i think you get the point. come on update your smack a bit ok.


playa you 100 pct coward. tru you will see for yourself about playa.
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11/6/2003  2:44 PM
oh and your "it's not about results it's more to it than that, what about morality"

That a highly idealistic,vague premise that is so subjectional it's not worth debating.

but i respect your opinion on that.

we got more mormons and devout christians in the knicks organization than any team in history!!!

Maybe God missed the memo

THERE GOOD PEOPLE FOR CHRIST SAKES!!!

you think the mets are going to give the 86 championship back cause half of the roster was sniffing coke??

I guess we should not try to get rid of Ward, cause he didnt smack his wife like Kidd did?? Yeah matter a fact lets extend his contract cause he actually loves his Wife.

And bro I BELIEVE IN KARMA, IT SCARES ME, AND I BELIEVE IN THE BIG PICTURE. NO AXE MURDERERS, RAPIST OR RACIST ON THE KNICKS, BUT IF HE GOT MAD AT JAMES DOLANS OR ANYONE OF HIS EX BOSSES I AINT GOING TO FILE A CIVIL LAW SUIT. EASE UP ON THE CREATINE BRO. COME TO MY SITE SOME TMIES AND ADD YOUR THOUGHTS.

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11/12/2003  8:33 AM
Posted by TRU:
Posted by TRU:
Posted by Swishfm3:

this has got to be the dumbest fuking thread......

The man was speaking the TRUTH! Why don't you post the WHOLE story? you know...the part where he says that he doesn't understand why the Knicks organization are still talking about him....

kind of like fans like you

[Edited by - swishfm3 on 11/01/2003 18:48:35]

First off, watch your filthy mouth. This isn't one of the adult sites you probably spend your late evenings trolling around-- this is a fan site, and there are kids viewing your posts.

Tru, man... what's wrong with you?
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11/12/2003  11:29 AM

Spree felt he need not be accountable for his actions. The dog don't have to be accountalbe for his daughters ear, PJ should leave him alone,he'll drove cross country and get there when he get there, Don't have to go to camp in chaleston, dont have to get in shape, don't have to tell anyone I broke my hand, no bodys business how I did it. Etc etc.

HE still gets his 12 mil a year. Maybe he's got a point.

No body on the knicks in the last 15 years seemed to have a problems with showing up on time or keeping to the rules. Riley ran a very tight ship. When Mason was warned over and over about his partying, and then he responds with giving 16 year olds limo rides, then he got shipped out for LJ.

Knicks figured spree would get in line after the Warrior incident and when he got his new contract.

He need only act like a professional off the court. It matters because a professional athlete is all about preparation of ones body and mind to practice and perform at the highest level. I am negative on Spree because he did not improve or try very hard to prepare. That is a betrayal to the team, the fans, your employer, and to himself.

I enjoyed watching him play, and do wish him success with the wolves.
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