LAST NIGHT 29 PTS 8 REB + l steal is just the beginning of good things to come. Nobody could stop him last night, he showed quickness with skill, he showed passion and showed strength. Great trade Layden

well, one game does not make a season or a career, but it sure was nice. VH has to keep up the aggressiveness.

Excellent point martin. I like the trade even though we got rid of Spree but his height and skills is what the Knicks need. Now, if he can stay aggressive he would be a SUPERSTAR!

I liked the way he played, but when he came back in the fourth quarter he never got back into the flow of the game, then fouled out. Chaney sat him too long? Or the Magic played better D? Didn't he have the rookie defending him most of the game?

We'll have to see how he does over the course of the season.
With KVH, consistency is the question. Where will he be at the critical moment?

slow your row, playa, slow your row. this is not only one game but a game against a team where their good paint players are not over 6'9" ( howard and gooden). he was burning gooden, who is a marginal defender at best. hey, he did have a good game and i was cheering him. but can he do this consistently? maybe not avg. 29 ppg but 20points or 21 points per is the ability that he can acheive. i see him scoring 12points the next game when he visits the defensive minded spurs. yeah, it is not kvh ability to score against drew gooden that will make him good. it is his ability to score against kevin garnett that we need to watch. will he disappear or relish the challenge? that makes a star let alone a superatar. lets see his stats by february and see if he is selected into the all-star game before we get too giddy.

Oh boy, here goes playa, getting overly excited again..

Playa I am happy for KVH, he had a great game, but cool your jets man, it was just one game so far.... I do hope there is more to follow..

Excellent point, Andrew. The Magic is basically T-Mac and role players. T-Mac was not even on top of his game. We play SA on saturday, right? That will be a better barometer.

OK, so after last night- one game- does that make KVH a friggin star? NO.

If he ends up being inconsistent and dissappearing in games like his track record dictates, will there be any real reason for the KVH fan club to beat their breasts- oh, I mean chests? NO.

If KVH has a career year that lands us in the Lottery (AGAIN, like with Allan Houston last year), would it matter at all to ANYONE with half a brain whether KVH is garbage or not?? HELL FRIGGIN NO.

If the Knicks do no better than we did the last 2 years, it is indicative that the whole team is garbage. KVH would be just another piece of trash in the damn bag.

Icing on the cake...
Here's a poster for the fan club:


Now do YOU see MY point?

[Edited by - HARDCOREKNICKSFAN on 10/30/2003 13:29:17]

Snowman, read some of the posts carefully...no one is knocking KVH. There have only been praises for him in this thread, even from the doubters.

Really funny how now our moderators want to cover up the bashing that guys threw around all pre-season long about how KVH was a soft bust and we got robbed when we traded him for Spree, now all we hear are Praises? Don't cover up, stick to ya guns of being negative and lets see who knows what they are talking about about KVH. (Some)of You guys are double minded Chaney coaches a bad at the END OF THE GAME and he gets slammed for EVEN THOUGH IT'S HIS FIRST GAME WITH THIS ROSTER , Vanhorn plays like a true star and people now say it's only one game? Go Figure.

why do they have KVH on the cover like its his fault, it should have been DON CHANEY OR HOUSTON !!!