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D'Antoni was NOT pleased with Nate in the Phoenix game.
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K22
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1/23/2009  11:36 AM
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It's a good thing Madison Square Garden has security. Otherwise, Nate Robinson might have felt Mike D'Antoni's wrath Wednesday night.

Robinson was hit with a technical during the Knicks' win over the Suns as he came off the bench and stepped onto the court and taunted Amare Stoudemire.

"To be honest with you, that's why you don't have concealed weapons, 'cause I'd have shot him at that point," D'Antoni said yesterday.

"So probably I didn't like it. No, he doesn't need to get a technical at that point. We're not good enough to give away points. Now I do like his feistiness, but he just needs to channel it in the right way. And he knows that."

How long have we been waiting now... 3-4 years for him to curb this? It's one thing to be excited and care but KEEP YOUR HEAD IN THE GAME.

[Edited by - K22 on 2009-01-23 11:37 AM]
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1/23/2009  11:42 AM
Nate/Chandler/Curry for shawn marion and a number 1
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1/23/2009  11:43 AM
If it wasnt for Nate--we wouldve lost that game. If Nate concentrates on getting to the basket---- taking good high % jumpers ----only taking pure 3's once in awhile and do what he can do in terms of defense rebounding and passing--he's a very very good bench player -- very valuable. He needs to play within these parameters. When Nate plays well--we usually are a much better basketball team.
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1/23/2009  11:45 AM
i just as soon trade him & get a 1st round pick if i can... i'm sick of waiting for this kid to finally grow the F up & stop acting like a knucklehead.
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1/23/2009  11:48 AM
Posted by MS:

Nate/Chandler/Curry for shawn marion and a number 1


Miami has said like 100 times they are not going into 2010 with salary. What NBA team would take Curry--he's someone who may not play basketball again. I don't know why people even add him in trade scenarios--what GM will take on 23mm player with no insurance who weighs 350 pounds with bad knees and possible heart problems? There are three ways to get rid of Curry

a Attach a very high pick to his name[looking unlikely and also very risky if we did have 1]in a trade

b He gets back in shape and proves his game with the Knicks[doesnt look promising]

c Medical exemption


also down the line he could be an ending contract--even a valuable one if we use up cap space in 2010--he would be the only guy who has the large ending contract for 2011.
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1/23/2009  12:01 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by MS:

Nate/Chandler/Curry for shawn marion and a number 1


Miami has said like 100 times they are not going into 2010 with salary. What NBA team would take Curry--he's someone who may not play basketball again. I don't know why people even add him in trade scenarios--what GM will take on 23mm player with no insurance who weighs 350 pounds with bad knees and possible heart problems? There are three ways to get rid of Curry

a Attach a very high pick to his name[looking unlikely and also very risky if we did have 1]in a trade

b He gets back in shape and proves his game with the Knicks[doesnt look promising]

c Medical exemption


also down the line he could be an ending contract--even a valuable one if we use up cap space in 2010--he would be the only guy who has the large ending contract for 2011.

I agree about Curry. Why would anyone take him now? They won't. You can even offer David Lee and our 2012 first rounder. People won't bite. Why? Because Curry makes 10M+, Lee will want 10M+. No team is going to lock up 20M+ in cap space just to acquire David Lee. Curry is untradeable.


As to Nate Robinson I doubt he ever becomes the mature adult we wish he would - he's no longer young - it's his fourth season - he's no kid anymore.

Seems like he's getting his game back at least. Yet if we could use him to dump Jeffries I do it. If we keep Nate he's just not worth any more than what Duhon is getting. Maybe not even that much given the streaky nature of his game and immaturity.
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1/23/2009  12:05 PM
"To be honest with you, that's why you don't have concealed weapons, 'cause I'd have shot him at that point," D'Antoni said yesterday.

D'Antoni is a funny dude

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1/23/2009  12:12 PM
Posted by EnySpree:
"To be honest with you, that's why you don't have concealed weapons, 'cause I'd have shot him at that point," D'Antoni said yesterday.

D'Antoni is a funny dude

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1/23/2009  12:53 PM
Hence why I created a thread about a month ago and said I'm officially done wit him. I don't care what kind of lightning in a bottle play he provides. He's garbage when it comes to TEAM!

Fans will still go to bat for him as if no matter what he does, he's always good with them. I want him off this team not now but right now.
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1/23/2009  1:26 PM
nate needs medication. he probably has ADHD.
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1/23/2009  1:39 PM
That quote is hilarious.
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1/23/2009  1:40 PM
Actually, some ADHD medication can make some who we think "need" it even more hyper.
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1/23/2009  1:42 PM
btw, the other comments by mike d are great. he's putting it on nate, using expectations and the notion of disappointment, and positive reinforcement of his strengths, "he needs to channel it in the right way. and he knows that."

this is how the most successful parents, coaches, managers, and teachers approach this kind of thing.
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1/23/2009  1:44 PM
Posted by PresIke:

Actually, some ADHD medication can make some who we think "need" it even more hyper.

Using stimulants to counteract hyperactivity has always seemed counterintuitive to me. Interesting.

But you gotta love Nate's heart, and also MDA's willingness to address the subject so bluntly.

Something can be said for Nate's acceptance of this criticism. If this was Marbury, he would be walking off the team bus right now.
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1/23/2009  1:52 PM
Posted by PresIke:

Actually, some ADHD medication can make some who we think "need" it even more hyper.

that is true...but it's either that or have him drink 2 bottles of nyquil before each game...
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1/23/2009  1:52 PM
Well, for most who supposedly have this "problem" (I happen to have a different take on ADHD) it has a calming effect. For others it over-stimulates.

Actually, if you are misdiagnosed, and it's not entirely impossible to "pretend" to have ADHD, so you could basically get to legitimately use amphetamine/stimulants like Adderall (most commonly prescribed now, not Ritalin, which is more addictive).

In the recent baseball drug tests a lot who "failed" were allowed to because of ADHD meds.

Actually, if I were a professional athlete and couldn't get it prescribed (I happen to think it's not too hard, especially since the word out is that so many are under diagnosed as adults, and males are the more stereotypical group it affects), I might consider drinking A LOT of coffee instead (i'm assuming there is no rule against this) before games to get charged up.

Of course, one danger with ADHD meds and any stimulants is that your heart rate can easily escalate and you can feel very dehydrated.

[Edited by - PresIke on 01-23-2009 1:53 PM]

[Edited by - PresIke on 01-23-2009 1:58 PM]
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1/23/2009  1:56 PM
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by PresIke:

Actually, some ADHD medication can make some who we think "need" it even more hyper.

that is true...but it's either that or have him drink 2 bottles of nyquil before each game...

actually, some anti-depressants could be more effective, and calming, even one's given by regular doctors.

nate could just tell them he's feeling sad, having trouble sleeping, getting out of bed, anxious, etc. and those legal drug pushers called doctors would probably hook him up without much of an inquiry at all.

haha.

only problem is some of those can cause hyper-activity when you first take them, and it takes around a week or so to get absorbed into your body.

other thing is, and nate would probably not like this one...

a common side affect is a loss of libido.

[Edited by - PresIke on 01-23-2009 1:58 PM]
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1/23/2009  2:02 PM
PresIke, I agree with your characterization of psychiatrists as legal drug pushers. Also, your views on ADD are in line with-.

Bottom line is, Nate doesn't need any of that. None of that 'cept for a J or 2 before a game. YES YES.
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1/23/2009  2:09 PM
KF94, me too.

Also, non-psychiatric doctors are those that can also prescribe the anti-depressant meds i am referring to. you don't even have to see a psychiatrist.

for ADHD, usually you see a social worker (who again, are those who usually perform most of the counseling in the field of psychology, not psychologists or psychiatrists...as pushed by Hollywood mythology) or perhaps a psychologist who looks for common traits that might fall under the DSM-IV list for ADHD. For young people, a teacher or someone might suspect it, and talk to the parents/social worker/school psychologist, etc. and see if the parents are willing for the child to get tested. If the parent doesn't want it, then it won't happen, and this does happen.

They would then check with you, by asking questions, if you meet the criteria for the diagnosis. You can't just have 3, you need something like 6 of the 9. Then you would take a 50 question multiple choice test, and see how far you are above the mean. If you then qualify, you'd then see a psychiatrist who'd interview you further. If they agree, then you get the meds.

It's not the worst process, but doctors who prescribe anti-depressants don't require patients to go through that at all.
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1/23/2009  3:30 PM
Nate is one frustrating dude. He's still more about the show than anything else.
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