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lebron is the best player in the league hands down
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djsunyc
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1/9/2009  9:46 PM
lebron says KOBE AIN'T SH T!!!
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djsunyc
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1/9/2009  9:47 PM
on a side note, cavs may be good enough to beat boston this year.

and if they can parlay wally's contract into another player, i think they would become the favorites to win it.
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1/9/2009  9:51 PM
come down to a must win game i'll take my chances w/Kobe still
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1/9/2009  9:57 PM
Posted by TMS:

come down to a must win game i'll take my chances w/Kobe still

stfu you west coast batty boy...
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1/9/2009  10:23 PM
LOL!
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1/9/2009  10:35 PM
5 mins left in the game? Yeah son it's Kobe time....unless he's playing the Celtics in the Finals, lol. Lebron is too gully to get handled the way Kobe did in the Finals. Spurs tried and was sucsessfull only cuz Lebron was alone but Lebron still got his.
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1/9/2009  10:57 PM
No sh...t
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1/9/2009  11:07 PM
Posted by djsunyc:

on a side note, cavs may be good enough to beat boston this year.

and if they can parlay wally's contract into another player, i think they would become the favorites to win it.

Like Q Rich?
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djsunyc
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1/9/2009  11:09 PM
Posted by 93BUICK:
Posted by djsunyc:

on a side note, cavs may be good enough to beat boston this year.

and if they can parlay wally's contract into another player, i think they would become the favorites to win it.

Like Q Rich?

anything knick on the cavs would instantly send them into an abyss and end up in the lotto...
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1/10/2009  12:38 AM
i still think kobe is the best. however, lebron will inevitably past him in a year or two.
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1/10/2009  11:37 AM
3 Championships and 1 MVP compared to 0 and 0.

Hmm...
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1/10/2009  11:50 AM
Posted by JrZyHuStLa:

3 Championships and 1 MVP compared to 0 and 0.

Hmm...

Kobe and Lebron have the same number of rings without Shaq....ZERO. When has Lebron played with another hall of famer like Kobe, and played for a hall of fame coach?

In the clucth, 5 seconds left, I will still give Kobe the nod....but all around, the complete package (scoring, rebounding, passing, defense, making teamates better..) Lebron is better.
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Posted by Uptown:
Posted by JrZyHuStLa:

3 Championships and 1 MVP compared to 0 and 0.

Hmm...

Kobe and Lebron have the same number of rings without Shaq....ZERO. When has Lebron played with another hall of famer like Kobe, and played for a hall of fame coach?

In the clucth, 5 seconds left, I will still give Kobe the nod....but all around, the complete package (scoring, rebounding, passing, defense, making teamates better..) Lebron is better.

That "Kobe had Shaq" excuse has been old for a while now. Why do people blame Bryant for the cards he was dealt ? Kobe and Shaq simply maximized each other's talents to win 3 championships, that's all.

How come people never say "MJ won 6 because he had Scottie" ?
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1/10/2009  12:37 PM
Posted by JrZyHuStLa:
Posted by Uptown:
Posted by JrZyHuStLa:

3 Championships and 1 MVP compared to 0 and 0.

Hmm...

Kobe and Lebron have the same number of rings without Shaq....ZERO. When has Lebron played with another hall of famer like Kobe, and played for a hall of fame coach?

In the clucth, 5 seconds left, I will still give Kobe the nod....but all around, the complete package (scoring, rebounding, passing, defense, making teamates better..) Lebron is better.

That "Kobe had Shaq" excuse has been old for a while now. Why do people blame Bryant for the cards he was dealt ? Kobe and Shaq simply maximized each other's talents to win 3 championships, that's all.

How come people never say "MJ won 6 because he had Scottie" ?

no one is blaming Bryant for the cards he was dealt, but you have to make an apples-to-apples comparison.

LeBron is 24. How many MVP's did Kobe win by 24? How many Championships? How many Championships has Kobe won without another superstar (same as LeBron).
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djsunyc
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1/10/2009  1:03 PM
if you took lebron out of cleveland and replaced him with kobe, are the cavs this good? i say no.

if you took kobe and put lebron in with shaq and phil jackson, do they still win titles? i say yes.
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1/10/2009  1:10 PM
This is bad for the Knicks. If Lebron starts winning like this in Cleveland, he is not coming to NY.
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Posted by Silverfuel:

This is bad for the Knicks. If Lebron starts winning like this in Cleveland, he is not coming to NY.

leaving a team that's contending for a title is very tough. and don't forget they too have max cap room to sign someone to play WITH lebron. so knicks fans better gamble on lebron's ego and hope he's more concerned about his shine than he is about winning.
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1/10/2009  1:15 PM
Posted by martin:
Posted by JrZyHuStLa:
Posted by Uptown:
Posted by JrZyHuStLa:

3 Championships and 1 MVP compared to 0 and 0.

Hmm...

Kobe and Lebron have the same number of rings without Shaq....ZERO. When has Lebron played with another hall of famer like Kobe, and played for a hall of fame coach?

In the clucth, 5 seconds left, I will still give Kobe the nod....but all around, the complete package (scoring, rebounding, passing, defense, making teamates better..) Lebron is better.

That "Kobe had Shaq" excuse has been old for a while now. Why do people blame Bryant for the cards he was dealt ? Kobe and Shaq simply maximized each other's talents to win 3 championships, that's all.

How come people never say "MJ won 6 because he had Scottie" ?

no one is blaming Bryant for the cards he was dealt, but you have to make an apples-to-apples comparison.

LeBron is 24. How many MVP's did Kobe win by 24? How many Championships? How many Championships has Kobe won without another superstar (same as LeBron).

Exactly. The argument of Shaq and Kobe isn't old, its true. Your not winning a championship by yourself. Kobe played on better teams than Lebron has.

BTW, Scottie Pippen is a hall of famer and people do say that when Pippens game matured, he did help MJ win championships.
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1/10/2009  1:17 PM
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by Silverfuel:

This is bad for the Knicks. If Lebron starts winning like this in Cleveland, he is not coming to NY.

leaving a team that's contending for a title is very tough. and don't forget they too have max cap room to sign someone to play WITH lebron. so knicks fans better gamble on lebron's ego and hope he's more concerned about his shine than he is about winning.

As much as I would love to see Lebron in the blue and orange, I think Knick FANS need to stop with this Lebron or bust and realize he is not leaving a team that is realistically ready to compete for championship this year for a bottom feeder like the Knicks. There are other freeagents available that year that can make us a better team in 2010.
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1/10/2009  1:18 PM
Posted by Uptown:
Posted by martin:
Posted by JrZyHuStLa:
Posted by Uptown:
Posted by JrZyHuStLa:

3 Championships and 1 MVP compared to 0 and 0.

Hmm...

Kobe and Lebron have the same number of rings without Shaq....ZERO. When has Lebron played with another hall of famer like Kobe, and played for a hall of fame coach?

In the clucth, 5 seconds left, I will still give Kobe the nod....but all around, the complete package (scoring, rebounding, passing, defense, making teamates better..) Lebron is better.

That "Kobe had Shaq" excuse has been old for a while now. Why do people blame Bryant for the cards he was dealt ? Kobe and Shaq simply maximized each other's talents to win 3 championships, that's all.

How come people never say "MJ won 6 because he had Scottie" ?

no one is blaming Bryant for the cards he was dealt, but you have to make an apples-to-apples comparison.

LeBron is 24. How many MVP's did Kobe win by 24? How many Championships? How many Championships has Kobe won without another superstar (same as LeBron).

Exactly. The argument of Shaq and Kobe isn't old, its true. Your not winning a championship by yourself. Kobe played on better teams than Lebron has.

BTW, Scottie Pippen is a hall of famer and people do say that when Pippens game matured, he did help MJ win championships.

Kobe having Shaq, Kobe having better teams, Kobe having 3 rings and an MVP are even more of great reasons to believe he is the better player in my opinion.
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