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earthmansurfer
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1/9/2009  10:25 AM
Just saw that date mentioned in this Vecsey article for those who are interested: http://www.nypost.com/seven/01092009/sports/knicks/in_marbury_poker__dont_blink_149346.htm

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Any player let loose following that deadline is disqualified from participating in the postseason tournament for the current season. Should a request for waivers be made any time prior to the end of March 1 (11:59 p.m. ET), that player will remain playoff eligible.

If I were in charge of the Knicks New York Knicks , there would be no two ways about it. Marbury already would know in no uncertain terms either "gimme the loot, gimme the loot" or defer your fantasy fling-at-a-ring.

If Marbury is really a street-wise scoundrel he'll blink weeks before the deadline so it'll appear as if he compromised willingly versus being boxed into a corner and his options exhausted. That is, if he's more interested in hopping Boston's (temporarily derailed) gravy train than surrendering several million unearned dollars.

I imagine if we don't release him before then we probably won't release him after cause he could still play and help a team. On second thought, that could help our lottery chances ;)

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1/9/2009  10:27 AM
He'll get paid playoff money in addition to any pro-rated contract he signs. The Knicks at some point my just say forget it.
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1/9/2009  10:31 AM
If we don't release him prior to March 1st then we need to keep him on the roster until the end of the season to remain professional. For if we released him March 2nd with a smile on our faces we look like complete jerkoffs and that won't go over well with ANYONE from the players union to other players and teams.

So either do the right thing and after the trade deadline say "well, we tried to trade him, couldnt, and now he's free to go" or just keep him inactive for the entire season and release him on July 1st.

At this point I've cooled on the need to waive him. Just don't trade him. Let him sit at home and rot the rest of the season.
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1/9/2009  10:34 AM
Agreed - this is not the previous regime. DW isn't going to do something that spiteful and make enemies out of other players and GMs. At least I hope not since he does have an air of professionalism to him.
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1/9/2009  10:47 AM
I don't know he is being very stupid right now. If he is in the best shape of his life why not give up the 3 million dollars and finish out the season, there are a number of teams that give contracts based on playoff performance. Tim Thomas is the best example he made himself 27 million off the Suns run in the playoffs.

Marbury is going to go broke very soon; he isn't going to get more than 2 million on the open market next season.
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1/9/2009  10:51 AM
Posted by Cosmic:

If we don't release him prior to March 1st then we need to keep him on the roster until the end of the season to remain professional. For if we released him March 2nd with a smile on our faces we look like complete jerkoffs and that won't go over well with ANYONE from the players union to other players and teams.

So either do the right thing and after the trade deadline say "well, we tried to trade him, couldnt, and now he's free to go" or just keep him inactive for the entire season and release him on July 1st.

At this point I've cooled on the need to waive him. Just don't trade him. Let him sit at home and rot the rest of the season.

I agree. Either you cut him before March 1 or you keep him on the roster for the rest of the season.
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1/9/2009  10:53 AM
Posted by Cosmic:

If we don't release him prior to March 1st then we need to keep him on the roster until the end of the season to remain professional. For if we released him March 2nd with a smile on our faces we look like complete jerkoffs and that won't go over well with ANYONE from the players union to other players and teams.

So either do the right thing and after the trade deadline say "well, we tried to trade him, couldnt, and now he's free to go" or just keep him inactive for the entire season and release him on July 1st.

At this point I've cooled on the need to waive him. Just don't trade him. Let him sit at home and rot the rest of the season.

completely disagree.
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1/9/2009  11:00 AM
Posted by martin:
Posted by Cosmic:

If we don't release him prior to March 1st then we need to keep him on the roster until the end of the season to remain professional. For if we released him March 2nd with a smile on our faces we look like complete jerkoffs and that won't go over well with ANYONE from the players union to other players and teams.

So either do the right thing and after the trade deadline say "well, we tried to trade him, couldnt, and now he's free to go" or just keep him inactive for the entire season and release him on July 1st.

At this point I've cooled on the need to waive him. Just don't trade him. Let him sit at home and rot the rest of the season.

completely disagree.

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1/9/2009  11:11 AM
Posted by Cosmic:
Posted by martin:
Posted by Cosmic:

If we don't release him prior to March 1st then we need to keep him on the roster until the end of the season to remain professional. For if we released him March 2nd with a smile on our faces we look like complete jerkoffs and that won't go over well with ANYONE from the players union to other players and teams.

So either do the right thing and after the trade deadline say "well, we tried to trade him, couldnt, and now he's free to go" or just keep him inactive for the entire season and release him on July 1st.

At this point I've cooled on the need to waive him. Just don't trade him. Let him sit at home and rot the rest of the season.

completely disagree.

LOL

Mostly I think teams feel Marbury is whack and wouldn't want him for a playoff push anyway. If a team wanted him and/or Marbury was serious about wanting to play on a decent playoff team, Marbury would have been bought out.
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1/9/2009  11:13 AM
Posted by martin:
Posted by Cosmic:
Posted by martin:
Posted by Cosmic:

If we don't release him prior to March 1st then we need to keep him on the roster until the end of the season to remain professional. For if we released him March 2nd with a smile on our faces we look like complete jerkoffs and that won't go over well with ANYONE from the players union to other players and teams.

So either do the right thing and after the trade deadline say "well, we tried to trade him, couldnt, and now he's free to go" or just keep him inactive for the entire season and release him on July 1st.

At this point I've cooled on the need to waive him. Just don't trade him. Let him sit at home and rot the rest of the season.

completely disagree.

LOL

Mostly I think teams feel Marbury is whack and wouldn't want him for a playoff push anyway. If a team wanted him and/or Marbury was serious about wanting to play on a decent playoff team, Marbury would have been bought out.
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1/9/2009  11:15 AM
I think DJ wants Marbury on the Raps.
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1/9/2009  11:42 AM
Everyone knows that there's no love lost between Marbury and the Knicks. Releasing him after March 1st seems very fitting.
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1/9/2009  12:45 PM
Posted by Ira:

Everyone knows that there's no love lost between Marbury and the Knicks. Releasing him after March 1st seems very fitting.

Releasing him July 1st accomplishes the same feat. Keeps him out of circulation AND doesn't make us look like vindictive pricks.

I'd be more concerned about the image of my franchise over some elementary school level "i'm going to get you" method of action.

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1/9/2009  12:47 PM
Posted by martin:
Posted by Cosmic:
Posted by martin:
Posted by Cosmic:

If we don't release him prior to March 1st then we need to keep him on the roster until the end of the season to remain professional. For if we released him March 2nd with a smile on our faces we look like complete jerkoffs and that won't go over well with ANYONE from the players union to other players and teams.

So either do the right thing and after the trade deadline say "well, we tried to trade him, couldnt, and now he's free to go" or just keep him inactive for the entire season and release him on July 1st.

At this point I've cooled on the need to waive him. Just don't trade him. Let him sit at home and rot the rest of the season.

completely disagree.

LOL

Mostly I think teams feel Marbury is whack and wouldn't want him for a playoff push anyway. If a team wanted him and/or Marbury was serious about wanting to play on a decent playoff team, Marbury would have been bought out.

Well, he's not going to give up 3M, we're not going to pay him in full, trading him is probably a bad idea (for reasons Ive said in the past), we don't want him in circulation helping another team, so I guess at THIS point that leaves July 1st, 2009. It's fine as long as he's just told to stay completely away.

I still wish it was done with over the summer but that's long gone. It's also getting so late in the year that waiving him now doesn't help anything anymore so I've given up on that POV as well.

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1/9/2009  12:57 PM
Let him sit home because its gotta be pissing him off, pay him, then July 1st waive him and make him go into another teams camps and earn a spot and contract. Treat him like the trash he is.
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1/9/2009  1:08 PM
Fuck Marbury, lets just end all posts regarding him unless he is being traded.

He is selfish and has been his entire career. Could he have helped this team greatly this year, of course. But giving up three million and then getting 1 million from another team and building his value for his next contract should have made enough sense to him. However he is nuts and thinks this is not his fault.

Why allow him to join another roster, he has disgraced this team, this city, and the game with the way he has handled himself. The Knicks have paid for him and his thug family members long enough. Keep doing what you're doing unless something happens to the Knicks benefit
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1/9/2009  1:48 PM
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He is selfish and has been his entire career. Could he have helped this team greatly this year, of course.

We won 23, 33 and 23 games with Marbury on the roster and in the line up. Why do you think we would win more with him here this year?
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1/9/2009  1:48 PM
this was the year the knicks were gonna win 34 and d'antoni blew it...
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1/9/2009  1:51 PM
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1/9/2009  1:52 PM
Posted by Bippity10:
Posted by MS:



He is selfish and has been his entire career. Could he have helped this team greatly this year, of course.

We won 23, 33 and 23 games with Marbury on the roster and in the line up. Why do you think we would win more with him here this year?

Because this year was gonna be different. This was the year Marbury was going to mature and not play selfishly. This was the year when Marbury wouldn't be "All Alone". This was the year when he wouldn't scowl and brood. This was the year when he wouldn't undermine the confidence of his teammates. This was the year when he wouldn't hide under towels on the bench when he wasn't playing. This was the year when Larry Brown wouldn't be holding him back. This was gonna be a turn around year because Isiah was gone. This was the year....
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