Posted by franco12:

Its almost like he shot his load for the season with the 22 assist game against G State, but it just seems like he is down to earth with his play.

Earlier in the year, I think many here, besides Briggs, thought Duhon was untouchable. Now, I'm not so sure.

Yeah, he has' lost a few steps lately. I noticed that also.

too many minutes. the spacing on the offense is horrible now, which is somewhat to be expected because of the trades and because the players we traded for are dumb. we need a low post pressence to help space the floor. zach was perfect for it.

duhon is playing decently, but he's not getting much help. teams seem to know how to play his pick and roll with dlee now.

Posted by VDesai:

He gets tired. He plays a position that requires him to be in constant motion and has no backup. Why?

I think its causing some careless turnovers and sometimes he'll go down and jack a 3 up rather than run the offense cause he's got nothing in the tank.

I think its borderline irresponsible that this guy and this position has no backup player.

He is only averaging 39 minutes a game. BTW, his careless turnovers and defensive breakdown also come at the beginning of games so how does that factor in your theory?

Posted by Pharzeone:

Posted by VDesai:

He gets tired. He plays a position that requires him to be in constant motion and has no backup. Why?

I think its causing some careless turnovers and sometimes he'll go down and jack a 3 up rather than run the offense cause he's got nothing in the tank.

I think its borderline irresponsible that this guy and this position has no backup player.

He is only averaging 39 minutes a game. BTW, his careless turnovers and defensive breakdown also come at the beginning of games so how does that factor in your theory?

He is ONLY averaging 39 minutes a game? Do you not realize that is a really high number? Its the 2nd highest in the NBA for gosh sakes!

No one is absolving Duhon for making mistakes- but I think it's a perfectly fine theory to believe he'd be better if he got more rest.

The turnovers- he's certainly had some bad ones lately, some fatigue related, some not. A PG is gonna turn the ball over, especially when he's got the ball as much as he would in this offense. League MVP Steve Nash was averaging 3.3-3.8 turnovers in Phoenix. Duhon is currently at 3. Its all relative to the pace and the playmaking that is required by the O. He'd definitely be better if he could the TO's out. I think he'd be able to get that number down with more consistent rest.

Posted by VDesai:

Posted by Pharzeone:

Posted by VDesai:

He gets tired. He plays a position that requires him to be in constant motion and has no backup. Why?

I think its causing some careless turnovers and sometimes he'll go down and jack a 3 up rather than run the offense cause he's got nothing in the tank.

I think its borderline irresponsible that this guy and this position has no backup player.

He is only averaging 39 minutes a game. BTW, his careless turnovers and defensive breakdown also come at the beginning of games so how does that factor in your theory?

He is ONLY averaging 39 minutes a game? Do you not realize that is a really high number? Its the 2nd highest in the NBA for gosh sakes!

The rest of the team are averaging 36 mins (Al Harrington), 35 mins (Lee), 33 mins (Chandler). If you are going to use the excuse for him you might as well use it for everyone on the team. BTW, that's a coach decision. Starbury says hi.

You know what I think? MDA's gotta stop practicing and preaching defense so much and get back to only coaching offense in practice. That's the key.

Posted by 4949:

Posted by EnySpree:

Duhon is not a good point guard fellas....stop the excuses and wake up. He has no creativity and if anybody deserves the blame it's Duhon....he's not finding guys and he is not creating opportunities for his teamates......every pass he throws is blatant. if guys wide open and he passes it to them and they make it he goets the assist...he doesn't do anything to warrent any praise. He is a back-up point guard...he needs to go back to that role...meaning the Knicks need to find a better point guard.

Everything is wrong with this team. No defense, no center, injuries, depletion, a key player who has mental problems and who is banished for Knick life, too many minutes for individual players with no efficient back ups. And I didn't even talk about Nate being Nate. We basically have six affective players (if you wanna call it that), with little back up so what does everyone expect? Don't call it an excuse. It's all true. And yes, the talent isn't as good as it should be, so combined all of this together and you get a 13-20 record.

Is this an excuse to lose? Of course not. It just is what it is. Facts.

yup....Donnie gotta get these boys some help.

Duhon is gassed.

As someone who trashed the signing, he proved me wrong. Yet, was that just a spurt of good play? Or was it a new level he had achieved? We'll never know now. He's all alone out there.

It's rare a player goes from being crap to being great so I'm inclined to say his own abilities have caught up with him. Yet, he did play very good, so who knows.

What I do know is it's over for this team. They will mail it in and I don't blame them. We're done.